getting a hairpiece for an interview

[Gilgamesh]

Anyone ever considered doing this. I'm gonna have to face a plethora of grad school/job interviews soon.

These guys judge so much of you based on how you look. If you have nice hair, your suit looks nicer, and you overall look like
someone they want part of. If you have a shaved head look you kind of look like a thug (well at least I tend to).

What if I got a piece just to wear for the interviews. Would they fire me when I show up with a NW2.5/3 shaved head?

 

[VWdude]

are you taking anything for your hairloss? don't get a piece man, you'll regret it. I think you are letting it get to you to the point where you cannot just be yourself anymore.

I also think if you went to an interview with a full head of hair then you start the job at a Norwood 2/3 some people will look at you funny.

 

[Gilgamesh]

haha I wasn't talking about getting a piece to be a guy who wears a piece

I meant just for that FIRST interview where you have to jump out of a crowd of dozens of people all going for the same job, to look exceptional is almost a pre-requisite in many circumstances

once they hire you, you're in and the piece is done for, and you now have an awesome job (or got into a good grad program with possible scholarship money)

it's kind of akward for them to say : 'well we hired you because you had nice hair, and now that you don't, could you please leave'

they're not gonna say that, they might even respect you for going the extra mile (doubt that haha, but still, you get my point)

it's a competitive world man

and as for people looking at you funny : a lot of times you get interviewed by some assessment person who never sees you again : it's not like they bring out the entire office to come meet you : the first time your co-workers would meet you would be the first day you showed up to work : so they have no clue

perception is key

 

[Gilgamesh]

and I'm taking the following

- .1 mg finasteride (even this amount kills my sex drive, gives me a limp dick, headaches (manageable), frequent urination, dizzyness, etc)

- home-made topical spironolactone in dermovan

- folligen

- emu oil

a shitload of other stuff i rotate in and out, trying to experiment what won't irritate the massive inflamattion that goes on in my red scalp

i ordered some fluridil the other week and it's still not here, although I bet the alcoholic content of it will inflame my scalp even more

seriously I have the most inflammed scalp, it's SUPER RED, always extremely painful, and most stuff I take makes it worse

I used capsaican for a while and it was helpful for this, but lost it's effect

topical corticosteroids work great too, but I know too much about endocrinology to make this mistake

 

[rapidfrontal]

I am starting the process of hiring people for my company. This is something I've been formulating in my brain for years and its nearly here. The positions will be professional/corporate type jobs and there are some absolutely necessary qualifications that potential hirees must meet, but hair is not one of them. I hear people talk about this all the time and I do believe that generally speaking people with hair have an easier time getting hired, etc, but it isn't because of the hair. It is because generally speaking people with hair project a more confident attitude and potential employers pick up on this. If I were to want people with hair more than those who are balding, I am putting the success of my company in jeopardy. It is absolute bullshit. What you need is an attitude adjustment, not a hairpiece.

 

[VWdude]

You get paid for what you know and the skills you have in a certain field that you are applying for...not what your hair looks like. If you fit the position perfectly and just because you are thining they are not going to hire you on the account of your hair... that is pretty rediculous and any employer who would do that is not running a credible business.

 

[Gilgamesh]

I totally respect what you just said : but I don't think everyone is as egalitarian as you : you have personal experience so you're not as biased

I'm the kind of guy who sees life as one big game. I try to pick the best strategies for every situation. Having a hairpiece for an interview would be like joining a bunch of professional organizations/clubs/associations and doing some BS internship senior year.

It reflects nothing about your character since you just did it for personal gain but it certaintly helps 'fluff' up your persona when looking to be accepted to a school/hired.

Looking better is along the same lines.

 

[Gilgamesh]

VWdude: not so fast

I'll stick to graduate school since I know a lot more about that.

For the type of doctoral programs I'm trying to apply to : EVERYONE IS SUPER QUALIFIED.

Generally, they have about 5 open slots for 100 people who are going to apply. Out of those 100, half of them have perfect GPAS, near perfect scores on their GREs. It makes it very difficult for them so they start really looking into obscure intangible things. On top of that, even if you do make the cut there's still the factor of how much financial aid / stipend you receive which is often arbritrary.

I know of an admissions lady who said she rejected people who's voice cadence wasn't to her liking. They are looking to make their jobs easier by eliminating as many people as possible since everyone is so qualified.

 

[VWdude]

lol... Now you are just relating everything to hairloss. You need to chill dude!

 

[Green Soap]

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Do you REALIZE how horribly mocked you will be once you start working? Your ENTIRE career will be pocked with ridicule. You'll have nicknames that only good friends will let you in on.

DON'T do it. Be your self.

DO NOT GET A JOB WITH A WIG AND THEN WORK WITHOUT IT.

Not speaking from experience, lol (HAHAHAHAHAH! YEAH!) just laughing at the myriad scenarios floating through my twisted noggin.

 

[mevsdht]

green soap: like I said: the people you work with DO NOT INTERVIEW YOU

why does everyone keep saying this lol

it's just some person whos in charge of hiring, not like he's gonna take pictures and post it all over

 

[GeminiX]

Seriously folks, people do NOT hire on your looks. Presentation, confidence and appearance, definitely, but not looks (Unless your applying for a job as model or something).

As a formerly 26 stone sweaty bald guy, I can speak with some experience; I've been an IT contractor for the last 10 years or so and tend to switch contacts every 6 to 12 months. As a result I have had more interviews than most people have in their lifetime.

D

 

[Petchsky]

I think you would be better off enhancing what you have. Get some toppik or/and couvre which will add thickness to your hair and make it look full.

 

[mattam]

Gilgamesh,

If you are Norwood 2.5/3, it's still not that bad -- ie. you won't look way too-old. Don't do the hair-piece. I think you may be so self-concious about it or it may look so fake so much so it will hurt more than help.

I agree with most posters here that overall confidence, the ability to project your capabilities, and energy is more important than your look. If you have a head of hair but not being able to answer questions, you will get the job, esp. academic ones.

I am speaking from experience of being an Ivy Leaque grad for both ungrad and grad (masters) and having a lot of friends in PhD programs at some of the most prestigeous schools. Trust me, I have seen a number of short, very fat, and not-pretty guys/girls get into MIT and guys with bald/shaven head get into top corporate job.

BTW, I read another post of yours and found what you said about premature balding an thyroid disorder and having t3 check. Can you explain this a bit more???

thanks

 

[wangho75]

Anyone ever considered doing this. I'm gonna have to face a plethora of grad school/job interviews soon.

These guys judge so much of you based on how you look. If you have nice hair, your suit looks nicer, and you overall look like
someone they want part of. If you have a shaved head look you kind of look like a thug (well at least I tend to).

What if I got a piece just to wear for the interviews. Would they fire me when I show up with a NW2.5/3 shaved head?

maybe the guy who does the interview is also bald and would rather give you a chance instead of the asswad with the Tom Cruise hair that he has been jealous of for all this time. He's more likely to give you the job since he'll have more in common with you. I'd check around to see which managers have a bad hgairline. That might be your best shot. Then again, it probablly doesn't matter. Just be cool.

 

[Greg1]

I say "to thine ownself be true"! Be who you are now in the interview and you're likely to make better progress. IMO.

 

[The Gardener]

I'm 36, and a division controller for a major electronics company and I think your idea is not a very well thought out one.

I have hired quite a few people in my life, and neither high GPAs nor high Norwood numbers factor into my hiring criteria at all.

When you go into your interview, you are going to be interrogated by someone like me, so let me tell you what I am looking for. I want someone who:

1) Shows some intelligence. No, not 'book smarts' nor a high GPA, but someone who shows some creativity and the ability for independent thinking. I don't want someone who is brilliant from a textbook perspective, but are mental mushrooms when it comes to addressing issues on the fly where there is no precedent. I want someone with reasoning skills, who can be dropped into a completely new situation where there are no clear 'right' answers and rationally make decisions. I don't care if your decision is wrong, that sh*t happens, as long as you can talk to me afterwards and explain the rationale as to why you made that decision. I can accept that. Actually, I can not only accept that, I want you to work for me. The problem with the 'textbook smarts' people is that they don't know how to handle situations that the 'textbooks' don't address. So, they don't make any decisions at all, or make poor instinctual decisions based on arrogance. I want someone to sit in front of me and say, this is the situation I faced, because of this, I took action A. Action A did this, and the situation changed in such and such way, so I took action B.

Regardless of the success or failure of those actions, the person who can sit down with me and explain their actions in this way is an IDEAL employee. I mean, at least this person is THINKING! I am telling you, I have dealt with people with amazing GPAs from Ivy League schools, and amazing heads of hair, but THEY CAN'T THINK! All they can do is recite their f*****g Harvard Review case studies, which do me NO GOOD! All I f*****g want is someone who can THINK, on their feet, make rational decisions, and stand behind them based on the reasoning they made. It is not a very tall order. I just want people who use their heads.

2) Be an able communicator. Again, I have met Ivy League brass who are useless because they can't communicate in a clear and concise way. I want people who can speak their minds, and can communicate their thoughts. One bit of advice, shyness is a killer. Overcome it. If you are not a good speaker, you MUST get yourselves to a local Toastmasters meeting and get good at it. Communication is everything. Shyness will ruin you. You have to be able to hold a conversation.

3) Show some EAGERNESS for the job. During the interview stage, this criteria is what brings the initial 40 candidates down to a final pool of 5. The other 35 who don't make the cut don't show any enthusiasm for the job they are hiring for. When you walk into your interview, be excited at the possibility to work for your interviewer! Do research on the company, say things like "I read about xxxxx project your firm is working on, and I cannot WAIT to get involved in doing work like that!" Or, "from what you have told me about this position, I would be excited at the chance to sink my teeth into it". You get the picture. Believe me, if you get 3 or 4 phrases like this into an interview, your interviewers will be ejaculating in their underwear if they are men, or if they are women, the'll be wringing out their panties in the sink.

4) As a manager, I have a limited budget, and I am f*****g stressed. I would love to hire 5 people, but the boss is only giving me one additional head this year. So, I don't give a flying rats *** how good your hair looks, I want someone who is going to make my life easier. If you are good at what you do, can communicate it, and contribute in such a way as to take a little stress off of my plate, then you are in. Don't go into the interview thinking that your interviewer wants to hire someone so they can look at your nice hair all day long. Go in thinking of how you, if hired, can make their life easier.

Good luck, and go get 'em, Tiger!

Lastly, and this is a tip for you... when interviewing, take a look around the office. Examine the work environment, do the workers look like they are enjoying themselves, or do they look miserable? Remember, an interview is not only for them to learn about you, but for you to determine if this place is worthy of your presence. If in the course of being walked from room to room you see something in the office that looks interesting, bizarre, curious, then ask your escort or interviewer about it. They will be intrigued by your curiousity, it shows someone who is OBSERVANT and who is THINKING. Good traits to display.

Someone who shows up in a hairpiece, and then shows up to work with norwood is someone displaying some very bad traits. Someone who is sneaky, dishonest, and your credibility will drop ten notches on day one.

 

[Gilgamesh]

thanks for the advice fellas (great stuff gardener), probably scrap it, was kind of just throwing some ideas out there

if I'm a failure I'm trying the schtick and blaming all of you! jk