Gonna Sound Crazy- Weekly Topical finasteride Microdose, Thoughts?

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I'm incredibly sensitive to finasteride. I thought the finasteride sides hype was heavily exaggerated- until I had paralyzing brain fog the first time I took finasteride. I broke up a proscar tab, and because it was powdery, the stuff goes straight to your system. I could barely stand and think straight, it was like I took some kind of disorientating drug. After 3 days my semen was water and my boners were fading. I hopped off.

With that being said, that year, my hair was good, followed by a very rapid shed that has continued for the last year.

Logically, because I am so sensitive, I could very slightly inhib my dht with a microdose, which would have an effect on my hair, again logically, because of how severe my sides get (remember hair regrowth is just another side technically.)

take the microdose only enough as I need to- weekly to give my system enough time to build back up (i've read hormone levels take about 4-7 days to normalize after finasteride application) and continue this process while keeping my dht only minorly inhibited and in a safe zone. obviously giving me less effective results hypothetically, but less sides.

furthermore, applying it topically proves to keep serum dht even more normal, while reducing local scalp dht close to what oral does.


Would this stress out my body a lot, I don't understand why it would logically make much of a difference other than us knowing what ed application does just because of research. we don't actually know that spaced out applications are any better or worse afaik.

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You have to try it to know. A single dose inhibits your DHT for 3 days and your DHT resumes after a way according to the research. However, the studies do not apply to EACH individual, which is confirmed by the microdosing members here. Desmond on HLH was able to maintain NW2 with 0.25 mg twice per week.
 

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This brain fog thing keeps pushing me back on the decision of starting finasteride. I can deal with sexual sides even though I am not married and still a virgin but I understand the tradeoff thing but mental issues is something I can't deal with. I have to study work and support my family. How will I achieve those things if I get struck with mental stuff. :(
 

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Why not just take a very small dose every single day?
 

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Why not just take a very small dose every single day?

What dose you suggest ? I was also told by some to take 1mg on M-W-F, some say 1 mg twice a week some say 1mg once a week, some say 0.5 twice a week, some 0.25 twice a week. Not sure which one to pick :p
 

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What dose you suggest ? I was also told by some to take 1mg on M-W-F, some say 1 mg twice a week some say 1mg once a week, some say 0.5 twice a week, some 0.25 twice a week. Not sure which one to pick :p

Clinical trials show that 0.20 mg/daily gives a result statistically identical to 1.00 mg/daily, so no higher than 0.20 mg daily. You can probably go even lower.

But certainly take it daily, to keep hormone levels consistent.

I suggest, if you're not worried about sides, start as low as possible (~0.03 mg/day) and work your way up until you experience sides. Go no higher than 0.20 mg/daily.
 

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Clinical trials show that 0.20 mg/daily gives a result statistically identical to 1.00 mg/daily, so no higher than 0.20 mg daily. You can probably go even lower.

But certainly take it daily, to keep hormone levels consistent.

I suggest, if you're not worried about sides, start as low as possible (~0.03 mg/day) and work your way up until you experience sides. Go no higher than 0.20 mg/daily.


the thing about taking finasteride every day is that it builds up systemically- it's been shown that after about 40 days you will have the same serum dht reduction as if you were taking 1mg a day, so you have to balance it out by letting your body build back up. if you are sensitive to dht, taking any significant dose will f*** with you eventually.

taking something incredibly small like .03 eod for example may work, that's something i'm willing to try.

i'm happy that everyone here is actually accepting of the fact that everyone is affected by finasteride differently, and that different people need vastly different regimes so they wont ruin their lives, which i truly believe to not be scaremongering- however i do think a balance can be achieve, or at least i want to believe that.

topical microdosing (small as .03) every 3 days to start sounds very promising to me to at least give it another go of hopefully side-effect free results.
 

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If you're going to take 0.03 every 3 days, it's better to take 0.01 every 1 day.
 

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What dose you suggest ? I was also told by some to take 1mg on M-W-F, some say 1 mg twice a week some say 1mg once a week, some say 0.5 twice a week, some 0.25 twice a week. Not sure which one to pick :p


i'll reply to you as well because this is important.

finasteride builds up systemically, if you are sensitive to dht, it will build up to 50-70% maximum dht supression, and you will experience sides- which also means a better chance of hair growth however.

the only logical way to avoid systemic buildup is to space it out enough with a small enough dose to keep your body from getting fucked.

read up on this thread- very informative:

https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/intera...de-microdosing-as-additional-treatment.98373/
 

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If you're going to take 0.03 every 3 days, it's better to take 0.01 every 1 day.


better because it is consistent? I understand the logic of that, but is it proven to act any differently if taken a few times a week rather than daily? like i said, afaik, there hasn't been much research on the differences, but we know what daily application does. thanks.

also check out this link as it's an incredibly useful thread if youre interested in this subject:

https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/intera...de-microdosing-as-additional-treatment.98373/
 

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the thing about taking finasteride every day is that it builds up systemically- it's been shown that after about 40 days you will have the same serum dht reduction as if you were taking 1mg a day, so you have to balance it out by letting your body build back up. if you are sensitive to dht, taking any significant dose will f*** with you eventually.

taking something incredibly small like .03 eod for example may work, that's something i'm willing to try.

i'm happy that everyone here is actually accepting of the fact that everyone is affected by finasteride differently, and that different people need vastly different regimes so they wont ruin their lives, which i truly believe to not be scaremongering- however i do think a balance can be achieve, or at least i want to believe that.

topical microdosing (small as .03) every 3 days to start sounds very promising to me to at least give it another go of hopefully side-effect free results.

Did you mean oral or topical finasteride ? If topical then why every 3 days ? and only 0.01% is available AFAIK.
 

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Did you mean oral or topical finasteride ? If topical then why every 3 days ? and only 0.01% is available AFAIK.


It is easy to make your own precise topical, and topical vs oral doesn't have much of a difference if youre using a significant amount, however, if you microdose, a larger percentage of the dht suppression stays local, ie scalp.

it is more effective and beneficial to microdose with a topical
 

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It is easy to make your own precise topical, and topical vs oral doesn't have much of a difference if youre using a significant amount, however, if you microdose, a larger percentage of the dht suppression stays local, ie scalp.

it is more effective and beneficial to microdose with a topical

How can I make one that is 0.01% ? And how will this be different from the ones that are already available in the market or like some here are saying Hanson and wong is better because its lipo something.
 

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How can I make one that is 0.01% ? And how will this be different from the ones that are already available in the market or like some here are saying Hanson and wong is better because its lipo something.

some people mix with minoxidil, others make from scratch with alcohol as a vehicle. theres many ways, but something like H&W liposomal would be ideal, just waiting on them getting to the US. wish i could find someone willing to ship. :\
 
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