doublebatman
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Guys...advice needed for a mommy of a 16 year old son.
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doublebatman
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I do, it's called propecia
Are you serious?! Have you read my messages?! ALL I'm trying to do, since he's ONLY 16, is put this off until he is old enough to make the decision for himself. Then, according to the experts, he'll still have a good amount of hair if he chooses to keep with treatment. Instead of me doing nothing, then at 21, he's lost a good amount and has less options like the men on here are talking about!
What do you not understand about that?! You are clearly here as a young men concerned about YOUR hair loss. I'm simply trying to prevent my son from having to deal with the issue before it's too late. Catching it early gives the best results according to the hair loss doctor. And, he thought it was a no -brained to have him use the mouse....can't hurt can possibly help.... Until he is older.
If you read my initial message. I simply asked if the men on here wish they treated sooner. No one has answered that except a few seem to agree with mine and the dr's thought process. Why in the world would you bash me?! I'm looking out for MY son. Wouldn't you do the same knowing what you know now?!?!
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Thank YOU!
How about offering each other support? Women suffer from hair loss too and it's devastating. For men, at least it's acceptable. I've never, seriously NEVER, met a girl who EVER said she wouldn't date a guy because he was balding, receding, etc. EVER in my 44 years! And I have tons of friend who are very cute!!! ;-)
As women, it never comes up. It definitely "more" of a guys insecurity similar to a girl's weight and body image. Also, women struggle with thinning hair too! It goes both ways....why not offer support to the younger group. I hope my son doesn't struggle like I'm seeing on here. This confirms even more my decision to start a treatment plan.
All of my best!
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Thank you for the compliment. I take my role as SUPER MOM very seriously! I hope when my boys grow up to be happy, confident men, fathers and husbands they thank me for loving them so much!
I am well aware that this is most likely inevitable. But what's the harm in trying to starve it off so he can focus on school, sports, and girls without the headache of hair loss. At least I'm doing something about it for him for the time being....because I care!
just like their braces...he had to get another round because his teeth shifted during his growth spurt. It's my JOB as a parent to make sure he is set up for life with the fewest amount of headaches!
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No offense, but it's not acceptable to us here who are bald/balding.
Yes, women can experience thinning. Approximately 40% of hair loss sufferers are female.
If you don't want your son to be bald anytime soon, then he really needs to get on Dutasteride or Finasteride if he responds well to either of those treatments.
No, I don't want to be the mom of a son MISERABLE because of his hair loss like many of the guys are on HERE!
I already can can see the confidence my son exudes regarding this topic. I'm GLAD he doesn't care and I hope it stays that way. At Starbucks today, I brought up the topic just to hear his thoughts again. god Bless Him....he said if he goes bald...he'll shave his head and work out even more. LOVE IT! I'm thankful he has a couple more years to decide if that's the course he chooses to go.
Did YOUR mom support YOU? I would love to know if she knows you are on these boards concerned about YOUR hair loss.
Tri, look for joan on this site, her son is young too and suffers from hair loss, I think she can help you (maybe you can send her a pm) She's very concerned about her son too. It's very nice of you to be concerned about your son, shows your a good mother. ( female sufferer)
I will absolutely do so. Thank you. I could tell you were a woman just from your sweet tone.
You're welcome.
Ok. I hear what you are saying load and clear. Your pain resonates in your message. I think we ALL have our personal struggles and demons, but I can assure you that there are many men who really don't care that much. Women DEFINITELY don't care about a guy's hair. They just don't. It's about the total package. Like I said in a previous message, girls care because guys care so much. It's like a girl's weight. Some girls are obsessed with it and others just simply accept. I feel for you, and I know your case is not the norm. I really wish I could get in your head and tell you to do what you can but DONT let it rule your life. This is why I'm concerned too. NOT because I care, but because I don't want my son to ever think less of himself because of his hair. I hope that is coming across.
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I certainly didn't cry myself to sleep when I developed a Norwood 5 pattern at 25 in university. It sucks but I got on with life.
Your personal experience of losing hair is different to everyone elses, and it's dependent on loads of factors. I don't think anybody wants to lose their hair but some people legitimately aren't that bothered. Others are devastated.
If your experience was typical we'd have hundreds of thousands more Freds on this forum.
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doesnt mean you'll get gyno from finasteride
Medicaton will slow it down, I'm sure he would prefer losing it when he's 60 rather than his early 20's
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Why are you forcing your story on us all the time, saying everyone will be as miserable as you were.
We're all different and your way of coping with hairloss is not the norm. It's getting tiresome to read your self-pity.
Fred,
Did you try Propecia/the generic at 18? I understand you have dealt with aggressive male pattern baldness. That is what is on both sides of my son's family as well. Both grandfathers bald, like totally bald, by early 20's. My H's father's brother was even earlier. Ironically, both brothers handled their baldness very differently. The older brother stayed very confident and it didn't affect his self esteem. He still is that way at 70+. My h's father was very self conscious and wore hair pieces his entire life. When I first met him, I rember commenting on his gorgeous hair. Not even knowing it wasn't his! Haha!
Oh oh and I saw your pictures on another board. You look amazing. Hair looks outstanding, but you looked great before too. Dead serious!
So, there are plenty of men out there in your shoes. You took a proactive approach and you look awesome! I pray you feel as good as you look!
Did you try Propecia/the generic at 18? I understand you have dealt with aggressive male pattern baldness. That is what is on both sides of my son's family as well. Both grandfathers bald, like totally bald, by early 20's. My H's father's brother was even earlier. Ironically, both brothers handled their baldness very differently. The older brother stayed very confident and it didn't affect his self esteem. He still is that way at 70+. My h's father was very self conscious and wore hair pieces his entire life. When I first met him, I rember commenting on his gorgeous hair. Not even knowing it wasn't his! Haha!
Oh oh and I saw your pictures on another board. You look amazing. Hair looks outstanding, but you looked great before too. Dead serious!
So, there are plenty of men out there in your shoes. You took a proactive approach and you look awesome! I pray you feel as good as you look!
I hear you, I hear you, I hear you! That's why I'm struggling. As a mom, all we want is happiness for our children. It's innate. I want to set him up in life as best I can, and then he is on his own to make his own decisions as a adult. He is too young to make any decisions like this. I'm simply being proactive until he can decide on his own.
As as a young man yourself, do you think there is any harm in using the "mousse" 1x a day? Then, if his genes really kick in, and he comes to ME and is concerned I can go from there. I am different from your mom. If my son at 18 wasn't concerned about his hair loss, knowing the strong genes he inherited, I would be THRILLED! I'm just keeping things where they are....looking great....until he gets a bit older and decides for himself.
thoughts?! I am so happy to hear your story. Do you think your mom made it worse for you? Thanks for your advice. I'm taking it all in.
If you don't mind me asking, where are you now? You are still really young, does it really affect you? I had no idea until yesterday how devastating this is for "some" men. I think it is completely individual. Fingers crossed he won't care. I'm on the down low going forward. Love love love!!! Hopefully, that will prevail!!!! ;-)
There's no studies that shows it will stop working after so so many years, do you regret not taking it while you still had a chance to save your hair?
exactly
Hello, I am going to give you the best advice you can have which will completely save your son's hair. But you must follow it religiously, no and's, if's or but's. I'm a 65 year old male with most of my hair. I've been around these forums for many years telling people what to do, and most won't listen anyway. I stopped posting years' ago, but I will do it to help your son. So please do this starting now. Baldness is not inherited. What is inherited is the propensity to go bald, based on a series of factors which if left to fester will cause baldness. Most people know the term "bald head shiny like a bowling ball", or something like that. Starting now, look at people that are bald or balding. Their scalp will be greasy, shiny, humid, full of sebum. Now look at the scalp of people with a full head of hair, although their scalp is hard to see, you can tell from the edge of their hairline to their forehead and face that the surface is mostly dry. Bald or balding people will have a shiny, sweaty forehead. This sebum, in time, if left on the scalp acts like a chemical depilatory, inducing hair loss. The scalps of balding people will also collect "gunk" which is sebum plus dead skin cells. This clogs follicles, minutarizes them and the chemical reaction causes hairloss. Test it. Have your son rub his scalp in a mirror and you'll see a greasy stain, now you do it, as a female, and you'll probably leave nothing, or very little. Of course, there are people with full heads of hair that do not go bald, but that is because their follicles are not predisposed or sensitive to the sebum. So they can go without ever washing their hair and they'll be fine. But for the rest, getting the sebum and gunk away from the scalp is the key. Your son must wash his hair 2 or 3 times a day until age 25 with any shampoo, and after that age he can do once, if it's in winter, otherwise at least 2 times in hot summer days. However, never, ever under any circumstances should he go to bed without shampooing his hair. After sports, after a hot day, after sweating, he must wash his hair. He needs to keep that scalp squeaky clean and free from sebum. After rinsing the shampoo, he should use his fingernails, to scrape off any gunk from his scalp. Usually, he'll find some under his fingernails. Washing the hair as often as I suggest will not hurt the hair and it will save it forever. That's it. Forget vitamins, minerals, or foods of any specific type. Most undernourished and some unfortunate starving people in poor areas of the world have full heads of hair. Good luck.
The answer given by jaydee1 is incorrect. Baldness itself is inherited, and it is not caused by a dirty scalp. Excess sebum, dead skin cells and other "gunk" that accumulates on the scalp has nothing to do with male pattern baldness. The cause of male pattern baldness is a genetic sensitivity of an individual's hair follicles to DHT. It is true that scalp sebum contains DHT, but it is not this DHT that does the damage. This is shown by the fact that scalp DHT is predominantly from the type 1 5-AR enzyme, and inhibiting this enzyme does nothing to stop male pattern baldness. The damage is done within the hair follicle itself, and it is the DHT in the dermal papilla of the follicle that does the damage. This DHT is produced by the type 2 5-AR enzyme, and hence, inhibiting this enzyme by using finasteride is highly effective against male pattern baldness. There is, of course, no need for your son to shampoo his head every day. Doing so every day will dry out his scalp and hair and will remove the natural oils that keep the scalp and hair healthy.
Unfortunately, your son has begun the male pattern baldness process at a very young age. In general, the earlier male pattern baldness begins, the more aggressive it is, and the harder it is to treat. Realistically speaking, your son will most likely be fighting a losing battle given the limitations of current treatments. My best suggestion would of course be Minoxidil and also Nizoral shampoo. The shampoo should be used three times a week maximum. When your son is 18, he can begin Finasteride or Dutasteride under a doctor's supervision. In his case, Dutasteride would probably be the better option as it is stronger than finasteride, but even Dutasteride most likely would not enable your son to hold on to his hair for more than a few years, since he has begun balding very early and probably has very DHT-sensitive follicles. However, there is still the chance that the treatment could turn out to be highly effective for him, so it is best to remain hopeful and positive.
Unfortunately, your son has begun the male pattern baldness process at a very young age. In general, the earlier male pattern baldness begins, the more aggressive it is, and the harder it is to treat. Realistically speaking, your son will most likely be fighting a losing battle given the limitations of current treatments. My best suggestion would of course be Minoxidil and also Nizoral shampoo. The shampoo should be used three times a week maximum. When your son is 18, he can begin Finasteride or Dutasteride under a doctor's supervision. In his case, Dutasteride would probably be the better option as it is stronger than finasteride, but even Dutasteride most likely would not enable your son to hold on to his hair for more than a few years, since he has begun balding very early and probably has very DHT-sensitive follicles. However, there is still the chance that the treatment could turn out to be highly effective for him, so it is best to remain hopeful and positive.