Hair loss = minger?

sjbuk

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Alright fellas

There's a lot of chat going round at times about how hair loss basically makes you a minger and at the back of the Sexual social pecking order which seems pretty defeatist to me.

If i met a honey who I liked and fancied and it turns out she has stretch marks or Cellulite or whatever and she has a mate or mates who don't but is conceited it would be a tough call who I would go for.

I would probably go for the one who had 'imperfection' as I feel less than perfect and I suspect the ultra perhaps over confidence of 10's is over the top. As a one off bang yes hair loss seems likely to lessen chances a tad but for finding relationships we will probably be attracted to honeys at a similar confidence and attraction level of our own. Attraction is not all about appearence for relationships.

What do others reckon?
 

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If you're seen as a creeper loser at the very first glance then you won't have enough opportunities to get to know each other as people will automatically shut you off if they don't like your looks and you don't have a charismatic personality.
 

sjbuk

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But hair loss will not automatically qualify you as 'creeper loser' but equally if someone isn't into your appearence, hair loss or not, then they won't fancy you.
 

resu

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But that's the thing it makes you ugly, sure with time people will get over it but you need time and opportunities.
 

sjbuk

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Not all people with hair loss are ugly though. Hair loss definitely changes appearence and usually is perceived to diminish but attraction is not based on appearence alone.
 

resu

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Of course it makes you ugly it's exactly like a bad haircut that you can't do nothing about, it's bad hair day every day. It's not a deal breaker but for some it is. Also a woman with flaws may not be so forgiven to other people's flaws, sometimes that ugly chick you see only dates good looking guys without major flaws. The rules don't apply to all that's the only thing that is true.
 

sjbuk

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What is true is often what is believed is true. This creates our reality which is often very subjective.

If some believe it's true that guys with hair loss are ugly lovers then that's their reality.

A lot of what some write as being true is truth how they see it. What IS true is that attraction isn't based solely on appearence.
 

sjbuk

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A lot of self-help and PUA industry nonsense here. First of all, you don't decide on what reality is. Reality is reality, you don't bend it to your wishes.

I often think I'm ugly. Yet, everyday I'm reminded that it's not the truth when I have women flirting with me or simply telling me I'm handsome.

According to your self-help misguided ideas, if I think I'm ugly, then other people will see me as ugly. Pure nonsense.

About your last sentence, it's funny how the complete opposite is actually the truth, proven by science. Sexual attraction is based solely on appearance.

Girls never consider traits that you can fake when it comes to attraction. Otherwise there would be tricks every man could use to get one night stands regularly.

Such tricks don't exist and wouldn't work. Women will only take into account traits that cannot be easily faked: your face, your height, your body (in its natural state) and your hair of course.

You think you can convince a woman to have sex with you? Thanks to your words, your attitude, your humor or your personality? That's a bold and narcissistic claim.

I've had one night stands, and I remember one time, I think I had talked to the girl for like 15 minutes in total before having sex with her. So much for personality mattering.

Studies have shown that when women want to have a one night stand or just casual sex, they evaluate you 100% on your looks. So if you're bald, you will be highly disadvantaged.

For one night stands then it's all about appearence but not so with relationships.

If you see yourself as ugly this will come across in how you interact and give off the 'creeper loser' vibes alluded to before. Yes reality is based on truth but what people believe is true is not always the case.

This is not self help misguidance but steeped in limiting beliefs, subjective objective reality and social constructionism if you want to check it out.
 

resu

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An ugly woman who dresses nicely and has pretty hair, walks like she's pretty, talks like she's pretty, doesn't appear to care that she's not that very attractive and yet is still perceived as not attractive. Because she's so full of herself and delusional with her made up confidence some will actually find her repulsive and obnoxious. This person would probably find more success if she acted more contained and in a modest but natural way.

If we are always moody and trashy then yeah it will move people away from us, then again I don't know how the average young bald man looks approachable, it's a tough look to strangers.
 

sjbuk

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Then it's a whole other game if you're talking about relationships. You can call it romantic interest if you want, but not attraction.

But some bald guy's can still do alright on one nighters if he carrys himself well enough. Some women go for bald. I haven't got an axe to grind to try and subvert what is true and the chances are that generally it is perceived as a detractors regarding appearence but it's not objectively true that a woman will flat out not want to bang a bald guy.

Most guys would bang a woman if she had enough going on but still had physical 'imperfections'.
 

sjbuk

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Didn't you read my previous posts at all? Women don't care about how you carry yourself if they're look for casual sex.

Sure she may go for the bald guy for a one night stand. Girls have gone for me when I was slick bald. But it was because they found me handsome.

They wanted to have sex with me because I was their type despite my shiny bald head. Not because of the way I carried myself.

They don't even give much of a f-ck about what you do or say for a one night stand. Just lead and say you want to go to their place and they will follow if they're attracted to you.

Hell I've been quite awkward with some women before sleeping with them on the same night. And every time it didn't matter. What mattered was that they were attracted to my appearance.

This PUA nonsense has to stop. Getting laid has almost nothing to do with the way you carry yourself. Saying that is the same as saying we need "confidence". And we all know here that doesn't work.

It's not to say it makes THE difference but it makes A difference.

If you're feeling horny a lot of the time most would hump most women let alone specific types. I've had times when I've met women and copped off with them and haven't been sure who fancies who it was just about getting rocks off.

Any others on this?
 

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Many women on a casual level, will gravitate or latch on to the guy she perceives her girlfriend(s) or any other potential female rival at the club seems most "into". Even for girls, conquest and dominance can be part of the game. Many women won't admit this but why would they? They too have their own egos to protect.
 

sjbuk

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Many women on a casual level, will gravitate or latch on to the guy she perceives her girlfriend(s) or any other potential female rival at the club seems most "into". Even for girls, conquest and dominance can be part of the game. Many women won't admit this but why would they? They too have their own egos to protect.

Yes Trophy style and as PUA say social proof. It does come down to personal tastes though as well. I mean, Megan Fox is so dumb I would be crying in my beer after 2 minutes.
 

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In today's world,you don't need to be handsome..
You only need to be average to get girl...
Average means no major flaws like bald,even norwood 3/4 who had hairline will be likable by girls but if its bald..u r chances are low ..
The only thing is to find a dumb girl who will be impressed with your character...
Dumb in the sence that she did not care about her friends opinion about your bf is ugly or bad looking..
One girl 7 months back even though wasnt best looking but she liked me very much..
But many her relatives told her that she will get better person than me..

In India even parents wants the best looking man for their girl...
I was ignored.. :)
My ambitions to get beautiful girl :RIP

The girl whom i love the most is getting engaged today...i am heartbroked...but i will not fall as always...
 

Dazzel

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Of course it makes you ugly it's exactly like a bad haircut that you can't do nothing about, it's bad hair day every day. It's not a deal breaker but for some it is. Also a woman with flaws may not be so forgiven to other people's flaws, sometimes that ugly chick you see only dates good looking guys without major flaws. The rules don't apply to all that's the only thing that is true.

I agree, With the thinning and receded hairline it would make anyone look like a mess unless you shaved it off and even then you still wouldn't look your best, and would still see the recession. If there was pill that made my hair thicker to the days before hair loss I would take it but there isn't.
 

MI92

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Minger. God it's been years since I've heard that term used! One of my favourites.
 

Wolf Pack

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Minger. God it's been years since I've heard that term used! One of my favourites.

Me too. It's such a UK term isn't it? Haha. Baldness is definitely minging, no doubt there.
 
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