Hair Tape/glue Health Problems And Risks?

[Fanjeera]

Polymer and acrylic just means composed of synthetic plastics and resins.... its not a specific compound.

So they just have not specified the specific compound? Everything is a specific molecule.

 

[Fanjeera]

Bummer. My piece will come with a poly rim around the sides and back, front lace. So I have the front covered with Ghost Bond, but there may be no good options for the tape. Hope some tape users will chime in on this conversation and give me some advice. I'm already nervous enough about wearing, I wasn't anticipating this curve ball.

You can apply liquid adhesive to polyurethane as well, no?

 

[TooBad]

And you think this adhesive that tape has does not absorb? Why wouldn't it?

Another subject it the estrogenity of plastics. Do you know what plastic tapes use? Do you know what thin skin bases are made of? Are these the kind of plastics that leach xenoestrogens?

This is the reason why I've also excluded ultra thin skin base as an option, although a lace base with uts perimeter might be more comfortable to use.

Because the carrier such as ethyl acetate has already evaporated on the tape substrate.....Its not on your skin... Active in liquid form...Much is gone before you apply the tape.

I've wondered about the polyurethane base.... I'm sure some can enter our body... but nowhere near the degree as an adhesive..

If I had to guess...a risk of >5% for the base vs 100% for adhesives.

If you use a scalp protector the base doesn't touch your scalp ....

Also with a full bond, the adhesive would be a barrier between the base and the scalp.

 

[TooBad]

So they just have not specified the specific compound? Everything is a specific molecule.

Yes they do specify the specific ingredients, but the term polymer and acrylic are like saying organic. There's a big difference though between an organic banana and organic asbestos.... It's a broad term

 

[TooBad]

You can apply liquid adhesive to polyurethane as well, no?

Absolutely you can do a full Bond.....All adhesive.

I can confidently say that would be the safest way. Full bond with ghost Bond.

Upside is eliminating all of the harmful chemicals. Downside... It's going to be a pain to clean, take longer to apply, and use much more product. It would be much easier on a Poly vs lace. Lace you would more than likely lose tons of hair over time, because it would seep through and matte the hair.

I think it's a fair trade for our peace of mind and long term health

Start at 2:50 if you'd like.

 

[Manny007]

It appears the seller is HSS and fulfilled by amazon.
Seeing that there are counterfeits I would not play around and I would get it from the most reputable source which is hairdirect. The only way you can purchase directly from prohair Labs is if you are a cosmetologist or have a license.

I would also suggest ghost Bond Platinum as that is their best line.
This whole post has been about chemicals and safety. Don't lose it at the last minute, by risking buying a Chinese knock off that we have no idea of what's in it.

Yes I will order from Hair direct

 

[Nostab2]

I'm glad this thread may do us some good even with the arguments, if it helps even one of us it was worth it

 

[firewatch9999]

Just got off with David the Chief Operating Officer for Pro Hair Labs the maker of ghost Bond. Again they are one of the greatest companies I've ever dealt with.

He said the reason they don't make a water-based tape is because it would flat-out would not work. When you peel back the tape and expose the adhesive it would still be wet and never dry/cure to the plastic substrate... the reason tapes work with acrylic based is because of the bad chemicals that are quick to evaporate off which allow it to cure to the plastic substrate and subsequently cure to your scalp on the other side.

Pro Hair Labs also sells acrylic Bond but he flat out told me people are foolish if they think it's safe there are many lawsuits out there and there will continue to be more....

He said they sell acrylic adhesive as well but if it were up to him he would not sell acrylic or silicone as they are dangerous. He said as a business they offer what their customers want, some people want acrylic some take the safer route of water-based.

Anyone getting angry and disagreeing with me ....I really urge you to call them and speak directly, if you don't believe me... believe the company that makes water based adhesives AND acrylic adhesives. He'll tell you acrylic adhesive are a big cause of concern... and he sells them. Why would he lie?

Would you mind sharing these law suits with us please?

 

[TooBad]

Would you mind sharing these law suits with us please?

You would have to go into each of the 3007 individual counties in the United States and search by walker Tape or the respective company.... there's no point in wasting that much time, the facts are the facts. The chemicals are dangerous and pose a real systemic risk.

That was my whole point with people saying ..if I haven't heard of a lawsuit it must be safe. There are literally tens of thousands of lawsuits filed every day. They're not advertised on the news. You only hear of ginormous verdicts for obscene amounts of money....that is newsworthy......

No one heard of the round up lawsuit until the huge verdict....

 

[firewatch9999]

You would have to go into each of the 3007 individual counties in the United States and search by walker Tape or the respective company company.... there's no point in wasting that much time, the facts are the facts that the chemicals are dangerous.

That was my whole point with people saying ..if I haven't heard of a lawsuit it must be safe. There are literally tens of thousands of lawsuits filed every day. They're not advertised on the news. You only hear of ginormous verdicts for obscene amounts of money....that is newsworthy......

In America you can take somebody to court for the most benign reasons. Just because you take somebody to court does not mean anything.

Also good argument, chemicals bad. I am sure you can do better than that. Why are you mentioning facts when you fail to provide any?

 

[TooBad]

In America you can take somebody to court for the most benign reasons. Just because you take somebody to court does not mean anything.

Also good argument, chemicals bad. I am sure you can do better than that. Why are you mentioning facts when you fail to provide any?

Because I have gone above and beyond offering facts as help....Use chemicals till your hearts content.. Your health is not my problem....I am not your parent.... You are free to be ignorant and make poor choices...

I'll help those that need help in understanding facts and risks... I will not waste my time with those just looking to argue, when its quite obvious they don't have a modicum of intelligence regarding the subject.

 

[firewatch9999]

Because I have gone above and beyond offering facts as help....Use chemicals till your hearts content.. Your health is not my problem....I am not your parent.... You are free to be ignorant and make poor choices...

I'll help those that need help in understanding facts and risks... I will not waste my time with those just looking to argue, when its quite obvious they don't have a modicum of intelligence regarding the subject.

You can't even do basic math so I think you should re-evaluate who lacks intelligence lmao

 

[TooBad]

You can't even do basic math so I think you should re-evaluate who lacks intelligence lmao

I spoke to them on the phone they clarified yesterday it's 10% they were referring to.

I don't know your education but I know mine.

Seriously this whole post is to help those who want help. Not for some ignoramus to spout nonsense.

You asked for proof of lawsuits and make a statement that me not searching 3000 County records is proof that there arent lawsuits.... And in the same breath you say that anybody could sue for anything, so lawsuits me nothing. Then why ask for them?

I haven't once spoken of being a double board-certified physician. I didn't because it would be construed as boisterous and it's really irrelevant as it does not change the facts at hand. But as I told the other knucklehead don't assume you know whom you're dealing with on the other end. If there's a typo on a document and I State the correct number it doesn't make me a fool. It makes you a fool for not contacting the appropriate person which is prohair labs to get accurate information directly from the source.... I did.

 

[firewatch9999]

I spoke to them on the phone they clarified yesterday it's 10% they were referring to.

I don't know your education but I know mine.

Seriously this whole post is to help those who want help. Not for some ignoramus to spout nonsense.

You asked for proof of lawsuits and make a statement that me not searching 3000 County records is proof that there arent lawsuits.... And in the same breath you say that anybody could sue for anything, so lawsuits me nothing. Then why ask for them?

I haven't once spoken of being a double board-certified physician. I didn't because it would be construed as boisterous and it's really irrelevant as it does not change the facts at hand. But as I told the other knucklehead don't assume you know whom you're dealing with on the other end. If there's a typo on a document and I State the correct number it doesn't make me a fool. It makes you a fool for not contacting the appropriate person which is prohair labs to get accurate information directly from the source.... I did.

I am sure you did buddy, whatever helps you sleep at night. The only ignoramus who is spouting nonsense is you.

You are making claims and not providing any proof and taking about facts. The reason I asked for them is because they don't exist, you just made them up. Isn't that hard to decipher my intention in asking for them.

If you are a double board certified physician then I am Neil Armstrong. You are a fool because you said something that was wrong and could not admit it. You are still backtracking and it is quite hilarious to watch.

 

[TooBad]

There is a hundred and seventy-three posts you 24 year old punk.

Many of them I have shown screenshots showing the ingredients of adhesives and screenshots of the chemical composition and the risks assiciated. If you do not have the capacity to absorb that I don't know what to tell you.
If you don't have the capacity to conduct your own research and want everything handed to you I have no help for you.

I have no reason to impress a little punk who's clearly not even in the country... and lacks any common sense.

Sure you're the king at your 7-Eleven but I have no interest in dealing with you. Why don't you try to be positive and help people rather than play internet tough guy.

 

[firewatch9999]

There is a hundred and seventy-three posts you 24 year old punk.

Don't be so mad, at least you can count. But hey, I wouldn't have put it based a senile old hag such as yourself.

The irony of your last sentence is palpable. Don't bust a hip getting so worked up.

 

[TooBad]

I was just thinking. There's a very good possibility he could be an Armstrong, as he claims..... I know my claim is 100% accurate.

I'm just not sure if he's the space cadet Neil Armstrong or the one missing balls.. Lance Armstrong. He fits the mold for both....

Either way, he is blocked and I will no longer be irritated by his ignorance.

Anyone who would like help in gaining knowledge, I'm more than happy to oblige. Anyone that wants to argue and make personal attacks rather than discuss topics intelligently, feel free to ignore the post... and I wish you well in your endeavors...

I did find his picture though... systems looking good buddy!

 

[Nostab2]

Are you guys doing a full head bond or just around the edges?

 

[TooBad]

Couldn't help myself, too fitting!

 

[firewatch9999]

Couldn't help myself, too fitting!

Aka a senile old geezer like you