Hair Tape/glue Health Problems And Risks?

[Nostab2]

Yeah, I would like to talk water based ghost bond specifically, I have been emailing back and forth with dave from pro labs. I did just email him on Phenoxyetanol, thanks

 

[cottonReville]

Are all Ghostbond varieties water-based & free of acclyric ?

 

[TooBad]

Are all Ghostbond varieties water-based & free of acclyric ?

Yes they are all water-based. You have to remember acrylic is comprised of synthetic resin. Yes, they contain elements that are synthetic resin.

That ingredient is what makes them stick. The carrier is non-chemical, and is water.

 

[cottonReville]

So if I'm looking for a solution that holds well and will be least likely to irritate my skin, would Ghostbond Platinum be it?

 

[TooBad]

So if I'm looking for a solution that holds well and will be least likely to irritate my skin, would Ghostbond Platinum be it?

Again that's really not a fair question. Everybody reacts to the same products differently. That's why there's so many different products. Again I would suggest your best chances would be to use Skin MD on your scalp and try different adhesives.

Ghost Bond Platinum is the best one they offer.

But, to reiterate. If you do not heal the underlying issue on your scalp it doesn't matter what you put over it. Try the skin MD you may be pleasantly surprised.

 

[cottonReville]

So Ghostbond has synthetic resin in it too?

I wish I wasn't f*****g allergic to whatever is in those tapes...

Ordering that scalp protector, along w a glue - would Ghostbond Platinum be the best to try?

 

[TooBad]

So Ghostbond has synthetic resin in it too?

I wish I wasn't f*****g allergic to whatever is in those tapes...

Ordering that scalp protector, along w a glue - would Ghostbond Platinum be the best to try?

All well functioning adhesives have acrylic resin in them... that's what makes it an adhesive. The discussion came up regarding health concerns and those are widely varying based on the type of chemical quantity of chemical and interaction amongst other chemicals.

Yes for the one millionth time ghost Bond Platinum!

 

[cottonReville]

I mean, I have no idea what is causing the contact dermatitis.

For some reason I thought the difference between tape and white, water glue was the presence of acclyric.

Any idea what else in the tapes may be causing the skin reaction?

 

[cottonReville]

I may have to go UTS and Got2B

 

[TooBad]

I mean, I have no idea what is causing the contact dermatitis.

For some reason I thought the difference between tape and white, water glue was the presence of acclyric.

Any idea what else in the tapes may be causing the skin reaction?

Again, anything can cause any reaction in anybody. Trying to guess online without the appropriate laboratory work is like throwing darts at a dartboard. It's silly.

 

[cottonReville]

Ok, in general, is Ghostbond more skin-friendly than the average double-sided tape?

 

[TooBad]

Ok, in general, is Ghostbond more skin-friendly than the average double-sided tape?

Yes

 

[Nostab2]

Ok, so vapon has been making glue and tape since 1927, I spoke with the owner, he of course claims his products have been adapted from the medical community and the same adhesive is used for prosthetics and many other medical uses. He also said that he buys from the exact same batches that are left over from the medical sales. With that in mind and these medical professionals knowing what's in this stuff, why not come up with a safer formula?

 

[cottonReville]

Ok, so vapon has been making glue and tape since 1927, I spoke with the owner, he of course claims his products have been adapted from the medical community and the same adhesive is used for prosthetics and many other medical uses. He also said that he buys from the exact same batches that are left over from the medical sales. With that in mind and these medical professionals knowing what's in this stuff, why not come up with a safer formula?

I have to say Vapon's LaceFX tape is the highest quality I've used. It makes me break out though.

 

[TooBad]

I have to say Vapon's LaceFX tape is the highest quality I've used. It makes me break out though.

I like you so don't take this the wrong way but you just said how great quality is but it causes a negative reaction to you. That's a hell of an oxymoron haha

That's like saying you have the greatest quality car in the world... It just doesn't ever run or drive

 

[TooBad]

Ok, so vapon has been making glue and tape since 1927, I spoke with the owner, he of course claims his products have been adapted from the medical community and the same adhesive is used for prosthetics and many other medical uses. He also said that he buys from the exact same batches that are left over from the medical sales. With that in mind and these medical professionals knowing what's in this stuff, why not come up with a safer formula?

So he buys leftovers from another company. That means one of two things.... 1 he has no idea if they're safe because he is just buying from Larry and selling to Sam, he's telling you they're safe because he "thinks" they should be safe.

2 -The people selling him the product could be telling him it's safe. Who's most likely to lie?... The person selling you something?
The effects of these chemicals are cumulative nobody's going to come back after him and 10 years and prove that his tape caused the problem.

Medical Grade does not mean tested nor safe... it simply means manufactured in a sterile environment.

Also, you need to realize the astronomical and exorbitant cost associated with testing and the FDA approval process. It can literally take the manufacturers costs and multiply them tens of thousands of times or more.

They'd risk the product coming back with confirmed and now documented carcinogens and proven negative effects... as well as being denied FDA approval..... They would have documented that they sell a dangerous product .That money would have all been wasted.... and spend to ruin their reputation and product in the process.

Just to be fair, let's assume everything comes out positive and great. Now they have $100's of thousands invested in their glue that retails for $6 to $20 per bottle and they last the consumer 6-12 months each.

Why go through all the risk and revenue to not be fda-cleared...and now be known as a hazardous cancer causing product? Also, why spend all this money when it is not going to noticeably impact your bottom line $$. They're not now going to sell this glue for $300 a bottle, which they would likely have to do in order to profit the same percentage as they do from an untested $10 bottle of glue.

You proved precisely why they don't invest to make a better and safer product. You've stated multiple times that it must be safe and it's crazy to think otherwise. They know consumers are sheep and will follow.... And if that's all that's available ...then that's what the people will buy.

They never once said that their product is safe or does not cause long-term harm. Quite the opposite they put on their material safety data sheet not to get it on your skin and if you do to immediately wash it off. They did nothing but allow people to make their own free choices....albeit uneducated and poor choices with regard to health.... Any wise person knows that people see what they want to see... they hear what they want to hear....and believe what they want to believe. They get blinders on and argue with facts and logic.. they argue from their emotion. I'm not saying this to spark a battle with you but like I said.... you yourself proved why they don't do this.

Deniability is the most valuable thing you can have.

Once they document through research and trials pursuing FDA clerance that they have a dangerous product they NOW have to disclose that. If they don't test and research...then they don't have to say anything... since they don't know anything... according to them.

Ignorance is bliss!

 

[BaldBearded]

I just looked this up.

Cosmetic items sold in the US need to be FDA Registered (not tested or approved). These prices are in the hundreds not thousands.

https://www.registrarcorp.com/

In Israel (which has far more rigorous standards that the USA), all cosmetic items that touch the body need to be tested by the ISI (Israel Standards Institute), this costs thousands, and takes a couple of months.

Just because something is "Medical Grade" does not mean it's a medical device that needs FDA testing.

https://www.truthinadvertising.org/fda-registered-cleared-approved-whats-difference/

With cosmetics, in the USA, the FDA or the agency you used to submit your request to the FDA assumes you are not lying on your label.

https://www.truthinadvertising.org/fda-registered-cleared-approved-whats-difference/

 

[cottonReville]

I said Vapon LaceFX is my favorite tape - it sticks best to the lace and scalp - but I can't wear it; drop your attitude, dude

 

[TooBad]

I said Vapon LaceFX is my favorite tape - it sticks best to the lace and scalp - but I can't wear it; drop your attitude, dude

I have no attitude dude. Just found it funny, even put a so I wouldn't offend you snowflake

If something does not work correctly for you I don't see how it can be the best.

 

[cottonReville]

Since the pt was brought up days ago:

Does anyone here actually think @TooBad is actually a physician?

AHHAHHAAHHA