Hair Transplants, Finasteride And How I've Destroyed My Scalp And Really Messed Up My Life.

buckthorn

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maybe the booze gives you a temporary spike in testosterone or some other random hormonal change.

a spike in T would just make it worst... but you're correct otherwise. It obviously immediately changes something within my body that kills the inflammation. Additonally, I tried using weed to remedy it and it made it WAY WORST. None of this is mental. It's a very obvious, immediate physiological change.
 

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you keep acting like I haven't tried man. I have tried finasteride for a year, dutasteride, RU for a year, 15% minoxidil, even oral seti... I don't WANT to give up, but really man how am I supposed to keep trying sh*t when literally NOTHING helps? even dutasteride DRASTICALLY increased my inflammation. I could feel pulsating throughout my hairline and burning everywhere.

That being said, do you really think keto cream and that shampoo could help? if so, where do I get it @countjulian as well.

That's not remotely everything. I've done way more sh*t than that. And I had to to find something that works. You haven't tried very much in my opinion at all.

More than the average guy that's balding. But still not enough.

We don't get to choose how easy our hair loss is to treat. Some of us have to run through more stuff before we find an adequate treatment.

In my opinion you're not done til you've tried everything or you've given up. And if your "giving up" involves drinking excessively every day to cope, you should really make sure you've tried everything first.

Alcohol is an anesthetic. If it was actually treating the problem you wouldn't still be balding aggressively.
 

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a spike in T would just make it worst... but you're correct otherwise. It obviously immediately changes something within my body that kills the inflammation. Additonally, I tried using weed to remedy it and it made it WAY WORST. None of this is mental. It's a very obvious, immediate physiological change.

then look into mate

ask experts

the booze is doing something to you. you just gotta figure what
 

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That's not remotely everything. I've done way more sh*t than that. And I had to to find something that works. You haven't tried very much in my opinion at all.

More than the average guy that's balding. But still not enough.

We don't get to choose how easy our hair loss is to treat. Some of us have to run through more stuff before we find an adequate treatment.

In my opinion you're not done til you've tried everything or you've given up. And if your "giving up" involves drinking excessively every day to cope, you should really make sure you've tried everything first.

Alcohol is an anesthetic. If it was actually treating the problem you wouldn't still be balding aggressively.

smart. I agree. Give me a list of things that you think I should try. thanks man.
 

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smart. I agree. Give me a list of things that you think I should try. thanks man.

Lol. I already did in your other thread and linked it in this thread again.

I'd add from Julian's suggestion topical nizoral cream would be an alternative to topical daro or RU if you want to try a more standard topical antiandrogen first.
 

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That being said, do you really think keto cream and that shampoo could help? if so, where do I get it @countjulian as well.



Yes I do. If Nizoral is already working for you then 2% ket cream will work even better. You can get it here, dirt cheap:
https://www.alldaychemist.com/nizral.html

On the German forum it's considered on the same level as minoxidil. If you're using the ket cream then you can toss Nizoral and move over to a piroctone olamine shampoo (Seb Med for dandruff would be a good choice) and Head and Shoulders in alternating days. Both will reduce scalp inflammation and vis-a-vis this improvement help with hair loss. See these studies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18498517

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21272039

Try the piroctone olamine, Head and Shoulders and ket cream for a month. I bet your hair loss will improve considerably and you will no longer suffer from the inflammation/irritation.
 
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Lol. I already did in your other thread and linked it in this thread again.

I'd add from Julian's suggestion topical nizoral cream would be an alternative to topical daro or RU if you want to try a more standard topical antiandrogen first.

if any of this stuff actually worked, people would be using it and reporting results. has anyone ever had actual success with keto cream? If you can show me one account, I will use it. And I told you no way I am trying Daro.
 

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if any of this stuff actually worked, people would be using it and reporting results. has anyone ever had actual success with keto cream? If you can show me one account, I will use it. And I told you no way I am trying Daro.

Kannst du Deutsch? Wenn du Deutsch lesen kannst koennte ich dir viele Kontos auf Alopezie.de zeigen die haben damit Erfolg gehabt, es ist sehr populaer da.

If you can read German I can show you many account on Alopezie.de for whom it has worked. If you believe Nizoral is working for you then there's no logical reason why 2% ket cream wouldn't work even better.
 
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if any of this stuff actually worked, people would be using it and reporting results. has anyone ever had actual success with keto cream? If you can show me one account, I will use it. And I told you no way I am trying Daro.

Daro is the last of all the last resorts. It was my last resort. I'm not telling you to do it. I'm not telling anyone to do it. Just mentioning that it exists and is an option if you get to that point and want it.

Keto cream has a published Japanese study with good results. I never remember to recommend it to people because I have long hair so couldn't ever use it myself. It is a powerful antiandrogen as reviewed here.

People would not be using this stuff even if it works because:

- 94% of men get regrowth on finasteride & minoxidil
- At least 90%+ of men have no significant sides on finasteride, and those that do have sides can usually tolerate them.
- Those that fail on finasteride almost universally respond to dutasteride.
- People hate mixing and applying topicals.
- Nizoral cream only works if you have a buzzcut or otherwise very short/thin hair.
- Most men don't care nearly enough about their hair to do any of this insane sh*t.
 

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Kannst du Deutsch? Wenn du Deutsch lesen kannst koennte ich dir viele Kontos auf Alopezie.de zeigen die haben damit Erfolg gehabt, es ist sehr populaer da.

If you can read German I can show you many account on Alopezie.de for whom it has worked. If you believe Nizoral is working for you then there's no logical reason why 2% ket cream wouldn't work even better.

but, I don't believe nizoral is working for me at all. I have religiously used both the 1 and 2% and no reduction in inflammation.
 

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lets be honest boys, unless I go nuclear and decide to chemically castrate myself or become a woman, it's over. over.
 

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lets be honest boys, unless I go nuclear and decide to chemically castrate myself or become a woman, it's over. over.

The total cost of the protocol I outlined will be less than $50. I can't guarantee you'll have a nice full head of hair but I would wager you'll improve your hair density and I am very confident your inflammation will improve. There's no sides to speak of so worst case scenario you're out $50 and go back to drinking yourself to death. What's the harm? Never quite the fight, rage against the dying of the light.
 

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lets be honest boys, unless I go nuclear and decide to chemically castrate myself or become a woman, it's over. over.

You're being overly dramatic and that's not remotely factually correct.

I don't know what your usual thought pattern is like since I've only been on this site a few months.

But you are being primarily emotional and not rational right now.
 

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lets be honest boys, unless I go nuclear and decide to chemically castrate myself or become a woman, it's over. over.

Not over brah, i would stay sceptical if i where you, but a treatment like Replicel/Shiseido could finally erase your pain and get some relief in a not so distant future (2018/2019)
DHT seems to still be your main culprit here, and hyperandrogenicity, your scalp androgen receptors seems to went on a crazy overdrive road and DSCs RCH-01 treatment is meant to "shield" androgen receptors from this hormone.

Nothing delusional here, but in the meantime, you have to try what the other posters said at least, booze on a long term usage is not a practical solution, this will wreck you more than hairloss
 

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Dude it's like $10 give a tube of the ket cream a chance.

i got through the majority of the order form, but I hate giving routing info / bank wires unless I totally trust a site... you're 100% sure this place is legit?
 

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and where do I get that shampoo? piroctone...

Mine's still in the mail, as soon as it gets here I'll let you know.

Piroctone Olamine is the active ingredient, it's in a number of shampoos. This is the one I get:

https://www.amazon.com/Seba-Med-Sha...521271&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=seb+med+dandruff

The other shampoo studied, which was the weakest, contained zinc pyrithione, AKA regular old head and shoulders:

https://www.amazon.com/Head-Shoulde...r=1-2-spons&keywords=head+and+shoulders&psc=1

Toss the nizoral when the cream gets there, switch off on the Seb Med and Head & Shoulders every other day, let us know how you're doing in a month.
 

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i got through the majority of the order form, but I hate giving routing info / bank wires unless I totally trust a site... you're 100% sure this place is legit?

I think I was able to use Paypal or a debit card, don't quite remember.
 
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