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HairlessinToronto

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Hi,

I hope this helps any individuals out there that’s concerned or depressed with their own hair loss.

I'm 32 years of age and my hair has been shedding for the past 7 years. I've been able to conceal it by growing my hair long on top and combing it a certain way. This past year in particular I've been asked a few times if I've been losing my hair. I would shrug off the embarrassment by changing the topic or laughing it off (it really did hurt). It hurt because if it's noticeable to other people, it's no longer a secret I could keep to myself.

Over the last 7 years, I would sometimes view web sites on the topic of hair loss but I was always in denial about my own hair loss. I even said to myself that there's nothing I can really do about it because I don't really think there is a magic pill. As prevention, I started using Nizoral shampoo because someone once wrote that it helped with their hair loss. It looked like a cheap way of curing my problem. I was to embarrass to see a dermatologist (not anymore, that's what these doctors do for a living). I also started taking vitamins to help but it didn't have a strong effect on me. Whenever I would shampoo or comb my hair, it was disheartening to see the amount of hair I would hold in my hand or felt dropping on my shoulders with each brush stroke.

I bought a book last year "The Food Connection" written by Sam Graci. I had heard him on the radio talking about the health benefits of certain foods and I was impressed with what he had to say so I went and bought his book. I didn't initially buy the book thinking it could help with my hair loss problem. I was actually trying to conform to a healthier nutritional lifestyle. In his book, he has two pages (not very much) dedicated to hair loss and what we can do. He explains the causes of hair loss and how it ties in to our lifestyle. He claims that our diet even has something to do with it.

Sam had mentioned that men in Europe have been using saw palmetto and other vitamins and supplements to stop hair loss (it's also used to help wit colon problems). This is the road I decided to go down. I went to a vitamin store in my local mall and I told the lady that I wanted saw palmetto, pygeum, stinging nettle root, corn silk, vitamin b6 and zinc. She showed me the products and I came to realize that I would have to spend over a $100 to get the formula I was searching for. I’m not cheap but I'm not rich either and I thought that was a lot of money for something I really just wanted to test. I did purchase the saw palmetto and the pygeum but not the stinging nettle root (Sam mentioned it aided in the digestion of the saw palmetto and the pygeum). I do use a multivitamin so I thought that would make up for the b6 and zinc.

Sidebar: I was a bit overwhelmed with the vitamin store (The Nutrition House is the name) and when I told the lady what I was buying it for, she started to inform me of other products that her customer said helped them with their hair loss. Too much information. I left the store with my two bottles and information overload. At least I was being proactive.

I tried it for two months and I didn't notice any change. I did buy the saw palmetto berries which I read later, was the wrong thing to buy. Maybe I should have bought all the products. Anyways, I called the Nutrition House at a different location and I spoke to a sales clerk/vitamin expert about saw palmetto, pygeum and the other products I didn't buy. She asked if I was treating my colon. I told her no, it was for my hair loss. Anyways, I went to the store to talk to her and she showed me a product made by Prairie Naturals called Prost Force Prostate Support Formula. The ingredients contained saw palmetto, pygeum and stinging nettle root (along with zinc and b6). The bottle cost me $16 Canadian (it was on sale).

I also bought a $30 bottle of a product called Shen Min Topical Solution for Thinning Hair. I pour this on my thinning bald spot and my frontal region before I go to bed. It does dry my hair but it's not messy and it doesn't flake. The product does contain saw palmetto.

I’ve been using these products for the last month and I’ve noticed a major improvement. I get a few strands of hair in my hands when I shampoo and very little hair loss when I brush my hair. I take 1 pill in the morning and 1 pill in the evening and I rub the topical solution most every night before bed (I've forgotten to use it on some nights). I haven’t noticed any physical or mental side effects (yet). My libido is still as strong as it can be for a 32 year old. I don’t suffer from moodiness or depression and I’m praying it stays that way. I haven’t measured for any hair gain (I think it’s far too early to notice any). I notice a lot less hair on the bathroom floor when I clean my bathroom.

I would like some feedback on these products if possible. Should I be more proactive and start taking Propecia? Is Saw Palmetto a good alternative? What about the Shen Min product? Does Nizoral help with hair loss? Are these products snake oils and it's all in my head or are they actually helping? I would like feed back from people who have tried these products or close to it. Any information will be appreciated.

UPDATE 1 (Sunday November 14):

Two weeks later and I'm noticing less hair leaving my scalp. Although, one day last week, when I was drying my hair with a white towel, I started freaking out when I noticed quite a bit of hair on the towel. The days that followed after that incident was fine. I know it's going to be a roller coaster ride from here on in but I think what I'm doing is working. I'll be using Nizoral tonight.
 

Petchsky

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Hi,

I too take a prostate support capsules very simmialr to the ones you mentioned... these help in my opinion, but should not be the cornerstone of your regimen. If at a minimum you want to maintain what you have then for most people propecia is a must as it is only one of two FDA approved drugs for hairloss.
 

Trent

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yeah, i use a pill that has saw palmetto, stinging nettle, zinc all in one pill, plus black currant oil (cause it just healthy to get all those nonsaturated fatty acids) which i take once with propecia and once at night. so far i am seeing pretty damn good results at only 3 months on this regime. i haven't used minoxodil yet cause if i can get this to work it will fit into my very busy life much easier. good luck, we all understand what you are going through!
 

gonna_win

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finasteride(the chemical in proscar and propecia)is approved by the FDA which means that it's proven to work on some people. However it doesnt work on everyone and can have side effects(which are rare and stop when you stop taking the tablet). I suggest you go to a dermatologist. They are the medical experts on hairloss(6 years to be a doctor plus another 5 to be a dermatologist).
 
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I have also been down this route. I tried the herbal stuff for a year and it made no affect to tbh.
 

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Re: Remedy that's working for me...so far

HairlessinToronto said:
I would like some feedback on these products if possible. Should I be more proactive and start taking Propecia? Is Saw Palmetto a good alternative? What about the Shen Min product? Does Nizoral help with hair loss? Are these products snake oils and it's all in my head or are they actually helping? I would like feed back from people who have tried these products or close to it. Any information will be appreciated.
I took saw palmetto for years for prostate health and continued to lose my hair the entire time. There is strong evidence that sp reduces DHT in the prostate; there is no evidence that it does so in the scalp. Therefore there is no evidence that sp will help at all to fight hair loss. I have not taken Shen Min, but male pattern baldness is not due to diet or nutrition deficiency. So unless there is clinical evidence showing that Shen Min fights DHT in the scalp, or otherwise promotes hair growth (say the way that minoxidil does), it's a waste of your money.

There is clinical evidence showing that Nizoral is effective at fighting hair loss and even causing regrowth for some people. The 2% Nizoral is more effective than the 1% concentration, but 2% is a prescription product in the US. Still, it can be ordered all over the internet from overseas sources without a prescription. Finasteride (the drug in propecia) is probably our most effective hair loss weapon to date. Minoxidil is also effective. These three are the most proven hair loss fighters.

There are others that also appear to have reasonably strong data backing their claims to be hair loss fighters. Copper peptides, such as Tricomin and Folligen, not only appear to reduce scalp irritation that can result from topical applications such as minoxidil, but they may enlarge the hair follicle and thus promote regrowth in their own right. The world's leading expert on copper peptide effects on the skin, Loren Pickart, claims that this is exactly what they do. Revivogen appears to be an effective scalp DHT fighter. spironolactone appears to do likewise, although it uses a different mechaninism. A new topical, fluridil, may also fight the effects of DHT in the scalp, using yet again a different mechanism.
 
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