Han's Story

hans

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Who: Currently 26, almost 27 yr old asian male.

What: male pattern baldness and currently on my 11th month of propecia.

Where: Hair loss predominantly at the front hairline. Theres also a notch front and center of my hairline which seems wose. Ever since propecia, shed from everywhere including sides and back.

When: Slowly started to receed beginning at age 21. Started treatment at age 25. Although on treatment for past yr, it seems like my hair's condition has worsen more in this past yr than the previous 4 untreated years.

Why: Father has slightly receeded hairline but has thinning all over. Grandfather from father side is bald. Grandfather from mother side was a Norwood 3 or 4.


Well thats a simple synopsis of my current journey thru hairloss and treatments. As stated, im about 1 yr into propecia and over a yr in minoxidil. I first started with minoxidil and it seemed to strengthen all my hairs and grew some very tiny hairs that eventually died out.

As for my propecia usage, I feel like thus far it has been a failure. Not only have I not seen any regrowth, I've seen a slightly more receeded hairline (which moved faster prb than the 4 yrs before treatment). I've also seen the quality of my hair become very bad. My hair is very limp and very thin. I never really had a very thick head of hair but now my hair just lays limp on my head.

Two weird phenomenons since propecia:
1) My hair has changed to a lighther color. Im asian so my natural hair color is black, but now my black hair has a brown tint. I've received comments from others asking whether ive died my hair
2) Hair thins at the root. To test whether propecia is working for me, Ive grown my hair out since starting propecia to a fairly long length. This is an attempt to see the new portion of hair growth. Theoretically, if the propecia is working I should see some shed hairs with thicker shaft at the root. However, Im seeing the complete opposite. Ive seen hairs that slowly dwindle til it reaches the root.

Curent plan:
I plan to ride out the current shed Im on right now. It's been about a little over a month since the most horrible shed I've ever been thru. I hope it'll stop soon so I get the chance to see within the next 3 to 4 months whether new hairs have grown in its place and whether they are nice thick hairs. With careful observation, I do see little hairs poking out of my scalp but they look thin. If in 3 to 4 months (around Feb), I do not at least see my shed come to an end or an improvement in my hair, I am going to quit propecia. There just happens to be too many things going against propecia, not only that it may be not working but it may be accelerating my loss.

Hopefully in a few months I can post on this thread the great success of my treatments. Either way I'll post again on this thread next Feb sometime. Im hoping for the best even thru a gloomy outlook :(
 

hans

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Update:

My shedding has definitely slowed down, although every few days here and there ill have a heavier than normal shed. I feel that the hair on top of my head have gotten slightly thicker... even a little bounce to it :eek: . However, my hairline continues to recede deeper into a nw2 fashion. My hairline isn't neccessarily moving back in an alarming pace, but it's weird that the hair on top of my head seems thicker yet the hairline is receeding more.

More to come in a few months....
 

WorldofWarcraft

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hans said:
1) My hair has changed to a lighther color. :(


I am white, and have black black hair. One weird thing I noticed, the more bald I get, the more of a brownish tint my hair has. It has this washed out brown look to it. My hair is still black, but now its not jet black like it was when I was growing up, not its more of a very dark brown black.

Do you think as hairs start to get damaged from DHT they lose their pigment?
 

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hans said:
Update:

My shedding has definitely slowed down, although every few days here and there ill have a heavier than normal shed. I feel that the hair on top of my head have gotten slightly thicker... even a little bounce to it :eek: . However, my hairline continues to recede deeper into a nw2 fashion. My hairline isn't neccessarily moving back in an alarming pace, but it's weird that the hair on top of my head seems thicker yet the hairline is receeding more.

More to come in a few months....

You need to stop buying expensive propecia that is inferior, and get on the superior and cheaper dutasteride.
 
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WorldofWarcraft said:
hans said:
Update:

My shedding has definitely slowed down, although every few days here and there ill have a heavier than normal shed. I feel that the hair on top of my head have gotten slightly thicker... even a little bounce to it :eek: . However, my hairline continues to recede deeper into a nw2 fashion. My hairline isn't neccessarily moving back in an alarming pace, but it's weird that the hair on top of my head seems thicker yet the hairline is receeding more.

More to come in a few months....

You need to stop buying expensive propecia that is inferior, and get on the superior and cheaper dutasteride.

dude that could be just normal hairline maturation. if he's not even NW2 yet and the rest of his hair is thickening but the hairline is receding toward NW2, I wouldn't really worry. these drugs(dutasteride or finasteride) will not stop hairline maturation imo.
 

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At what point do you draw the line and say the balding areas of your hairline are male pattern baldness and not just maturing?

I really don't like the mature hairline theory. In my opinion, people go through differing degrees of hairloss. Some people have such little male pattern baldness that they just have slight temple loss.

Socks is proof of this. After taking oral spironolactone his "mature hairline" went back to a NW1. This to me indicates that it was DHT attacking his hairline. Therefore, a mature hairline is nothing more then a very mild case of male pattern baldness.

Therefore, I don't see why finasteride or dutasteride would not help him.

p.s. The fact that he is on here and is spending lots of money on name brand propecia shows that he is bothered by his hairloss, even if its only a NW2.
 
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WorldofWarcraft said:
At what point do you draw the line and say the balding areas of your hairline are male pattern baldness and not just maturing?

I really don't like the mature hairline theory. In my opinion, people go through differing degrees of hairloss. Some people have such little male pattern baldness that they just have slight temple loss.

Socks is proof of this. After taking oral spironolactone his "mature hairline" went back to a NW1. This to me indicates that it was DHT attacking his hairline. Therefore, a mature hairline is nothing more then a very mild case of male pattern baldness.

Therefore, I don't see why finasteride or dutasteride would not help him.

p.s. The fact that he is on here and is spending lots of money on name brand propecia shows that he is bothered by his hairloss, even if its only a NW2.

it's not a theory. the hair does not recede to the matur ehairline because of male pattern baldness.why do some people get more body hair than others?. some people get more of a mature hairline.

read this link:

http://www.baldingblog.com/2006/10/06/j ... th-photos/

i don think socks is proof. i think he was receding because of male pattern baldness. some people get male pattern baldness while retaining their juvenile hairline believe it or not. it looks really weird.

my point is that while he may be bothered, some people like my grandfather went to NW2 in their twenties, stayed there for 50 years, and he's just now receding more in his eighties.
 

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JayMan said:
WorldofWarcraft said:
At what point do you draw the line and say the balding areas of your hairline are male pattern baldness and not just maturing?

I really don't like the mature hairline theory. In my opinion, people go through differing degrees of hairloss. Some people have such little male pattern baldness that they just have slight temple loss.

Socks is proof of this. After taking oral spironolactone his "mature hairline" went back to a NW1. This to me indicates that it was DHT attacking his hairline. Therefore, a mature hairline is nothing more then a very mild case of male pattern baldness.

Therefore, I don't see why finasteride or dutasteride would not help him.

p.s. The fact that he is on here and is spending lots of money on name brand propecia shows that he is bothered by his hairloss, even if its only a NW2.

it's not a theory. the hair does not recede to the matur ehairline because of male pattern baldness.why do some people get more body hair than others?. some people get more of a mature hairline.

read this link:

http://www.baldingblog.com/2006/10/06/j ... th-photos/

i don think socks is proof. i think he was receding because of male pattern baldness. some people get male pattern baldness while retaining their juvenile hairline believe it or not. it looks really weird.

my point is that while he may be bothered, some people like my grandfather went to NW2 in their twenties, stayed there for 50 years, and he's just now receding more in his eighties.

The article you linked further proves me theory. It stated that most all women keep their juvinille hairlines. What is one major thing about women that is different from men? They have much much lower testosterone levels than us.

What is the reason that hair is permanently lost from the hairline of those who have a maturing hairline? I am trying to re-grow my hairline and would like to know.

Am I wasting my time because my ression wasn't caused from DHT attacking my hairline?
 

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Heh, he's kidding with ya! If jerking off made your hair fall out I doubt there'd be a man alive with a single hair!
 
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