Has Anyone Here Actually Been On Ru For A Long While And Stopped Their Hair Loss?

Zarko

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At this point, I am pretty desperate to avoid Propecia. I don't see how even independent studies can report such a tiny incidence of side effects when lawsuits against Merck now number in the hundreds, when warnings of permanent side effects have been government-mandated in the US, Canada and practically every country in Europe, and when there are easily a couple of thousand horror stories that come up with one Google search. I'm not an endocrinologist but I think I'd be dumb to believe that you can block 70 per cent of an essential male hormone and not expect any changes to come to your body. Without DHT no male human being would be able to grow a dick.

What really got to me was reading about actual suicides of formerly healthy and successful men who took Propecia. Randall Santmann, Patrick Ortiz, John Davis Pffaf, Daniel Stewart, Stephen Kenny, Paul Andrew Dixon. Stewart was a college professor who served in the Air Force and Kenney was a detective sergeant, so they weren't emo teenagers. These guys killed themselves because Propecia caused them to physically cease to be men.

Not to mention that Merck blatantly lied about the side effects of Vioxx and only shelved the drug after 38,000 people died. How is it possible that no one from this company is sitting on death row right now? We're not exactly dealing with a moral manufacturer or a drug agency that makes sure nothing slips through the cracks.

Then you've got Champix as an example (not a Merck drug). It's been linked to 544 suicides and 1,869 suicide attempts. And according to the studies, even one that used 150,000 people, it doesn't increase suicide risk. Bahaha.

I was prescribed Propecia a couple of years ago and found it pretty weird that my doctor didn't know anything about it. I got a three-month supply and was too scared to take one pill. I ended up throwing it away. But I really don't want to go bald, man. I'm already 5'7", round-faced, big-nosed, broke, uneducated, approaching the end of my 20s, I don't need to add bald to the list.

Now RU has never been tested on humans. It is as well-understood as Alzheimer's. There's absolutely no quality information available. Ordering this stuff as a research chemical from a lab under false pretenses because of a couple of mouse and monkey studies that were conducted back in the Stone Age, and slapping it onto my head just screams dumb. But I'm desperate enough to try it. Plus the fact that it's topical and doesn't reduce DHT all over the body is somewhat reassuring.

Has anyone here actually been on RU for a long time (at least six or eight months) and stopped losing their hair? I don't care about regrowth, I could probably have a transplant one day to fill in what I've lost as most of my head is still soft and furry. If I could just stop losing my hair I'd be a happy camper.
 
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Afro_Vacancy

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You write pretty well for an uneducated man.

I'm on RU right now, but I'm taking an extremely low dose (~15 mg/day) and I've only been doing so for a month or so. No progress yet, and even if I get progress, we won't know if it's the RU, the minoxidil, the castor oil, or the stemoxydine.

The way I see it personally, and I have similar concerns, is that I'm throwing what I can at the wall in the hope something sticks, until the more promising Italian lotion comes out which is next year. Hopefully that works.
 

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FWIW, there's a good argument that th issues with propecia may have nothing to do with blocking DHT in the blood, but rather with its effect on the cerebrospinal fluid, where 5-alpha reductase has many uses.
 

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For me yes, for coming up to 2 years. However my situation is more complex as I am on a number of treatments.

I would add that it is important to get a dosage that suits the individual, for example i had slight side effects on 80mg a day but having dropped down to 50mg i am side free.
 

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I'm also on it nearly 2 years. Usually dosed between 40/50mg I've never actually went higher than that.
It's more important than minoxidil in my regimen. I've taken the odd short break from it and my hair would start backtracking - that is whilst still using minoxidil.
 

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Jup in my experience it maintains my hair well.

Also it has run in human clinical trials actually.. It just never proceeded further than phase 2.

PSK 3841 = RU58841

PSK 3841 (RU58841), a nonsteroidal antiandrogen, has completed phase IIa trials for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia and a clinical proof-of-concept study to reduce sebum flow and secretion in patients with acne. Six months of treatment with PSK 3481 demonstrated equivalent or better net hair growth compared with finasteride.

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yetti

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FWIW, there's a good argument that th issues with propecia may have nothing to do with blocking DHT in the blood, but rather with its effect on the cerebrospinal fluid, where 5-alpha reductase has many uses.

Could you provide some links about this? I've seen you mention it a few times.

Like the OP I was prescribed Propecia, got the pills, and then threw them out (after taking part of 1 pill). Weirdly, when I chucked them into the toilet, they BONDED to the ceramic in the bowl and stuck there for a while.
 

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yetti

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Thanks... that speculation is 7 years old. Do you know if there has been any conclusive research on the matter since then?
 
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Don't get me wrong, everyone here knows that in my personal case, I absolutely hate finasteride. That being said, I cannot understand why someone would jump to RU, because they are afraid of finasteride sides. RU goes systemic, is poorly researched and understood, and it is an androgen antagonist, meaning that wherever you have these receptors in the body, RU could potentially bind.
 

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I'm a fan of Finasteride. I haven't been using it as long as some folks have (I'm about 2 months in), but I've yet to experience anything that would make me consider getting off it. Reduced erections from time to time but not always. That's about as bad as it got for me. Worth it in my opinion. But I know that wasn't your question. I just don't have experience with RU because I gave finasteride a shot and it's working for me.
 

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So wait....you are scared of finasteride which has years and years of data and even a 10 year efficacy study and has gone thru phase 3 fda trials with thousands of participants....not to mention is easy accessible and cheap because you are scared of sides? Instead you want to use RU sourced from China by some random guy who doesn't even use his real name, and not to mention there are no long term safety studies. Lol great plan my friend
 
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