Has Anyone Questioned Androgenetic Factors

S Foote.

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Bryan said:
michael barry said:
The mice in those studies were immuno-deficient mice. These animals are pretty sick for most of their lives unless they are kept in super-clean environments. Thats a fascinating study, and Stephen Foote was kind enough to share it with us.

Actually, Michael, _I_ was the first one to post about that study, and Stephen Foote almost wet his pants in excitement, thinking that it somehow supported his own eccentric theory! :)

Bryan

Err? :shock:

Well it "CERTAINLY" doesn't support the old donor dominance notion that you always claim is gospil Bryan!

Michael was mistaken, it was you who posted this study originaly here:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... TARTPAGE=2

People involved in this thread should note Bryans clear hypocrisy (yet again).

Originally Bryan clearly agreed that androgen levels in those mice was more than enough to effect male pattern baldness follicle growth, according to the current theory.

It was only when i pointed out how that study supported my theory, that he "suddenly" did a complete U turn, and tried to claim there was not enough androgens in those mice as he continues to do here now.

But the record is clear, and Bryan's scientific hypocrisy is glaring for all to see.

From that original thread:




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Originally posted by: daytona
Could it be that these transplanted vellous hairs recovered to terminal hairs because of the lack of DHT present and not due to an absence of an immune response?
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"You're forgetting this important line from the study: "The regeneration of vellus follicles occurs just as quickly on male as on female mice (data not shown); this suggests that a factor or factors other than androgen withdrawal may be involved..."

Furthermore, men with prostate cancer who undergo total androgen ablation with castration and flutamide don't experience dramatic hair regrowth.

Bryan"

Sigh :roll:


S Foote.
 

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Transplants from balding and hairy androgenetic alopecia scalp regrow hair comparably well on immunodeficient mice

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This report shows that miniaturized hair follicles of pattern alopecia can quickly regenerate once removed from the human scalp and can grow as well as or better than terminal follicles from the same individual."

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The regeneration of vellus follicles occurs just as quickly on male as on female mice (data not shown); this suggests that a factor or factors other than androgen withdrawal may be involved but does not necessarily rule out that differences in androgen levels, availablity, or both between human beings and mice account in part or entirely for the rapid vellus-to-terminal transformation of balding follicles. For instance, the activity of the 5a-R enzyme(s) may be greatly reduced or absent in the transplanted follicles, thereby, limiting exposure of the follicles to DHT. The accelerated transformation of vellus follicles on immunodeficient mice might correspond to responses seen in balding men treated with oral finasteride who are exceptionally good responders. However, in our clinical experience, females with Androgenetic Alopecia, including the female in study II, frequently have normal androgen and androgen-binding globulin levels for their age and sex. It is difficult to argue that lower systemic androgen levels in the female mouse environment (or higher in the male mice) causes the rapid regeneration of vellus hair follicles from the human female.

Therefore, the existence of an inhibitor factor other than androgens, particularly in women showing diffuse/pattern alopecia, that is lacking in the nude mouse seems plausible. This could be some other steroid, hormone, cytokine, neuropeptide, or an immunologically related factor.



 

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Selective Modulation of Hedgehog/GLI Target Gene Expression by Epidermal Growth Factor Signaling in Human Keratinocytes

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In mammalian skin, HH/GLI signaling plays a prominent role in the development of epidermal appendages and skin cancer.

Loss of HH signaling in murine epidermis results in an arrest of hair follicle growth at an early stage of follicle development due to reduced proliferation...

while constitutive pathway activation in epidermal cells induces (with high frequency) tumors with basal cell carcinoma

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IL1R2, EGFR, and p-ERK are coexpressed in the ORS of human hair follicles. To assess the in vivo relevance of our data on EGF-dependent modulation of GLI target gene specificity, we analyzed the protein expression patterns of EGFR, active ERK1/2 (p-ERK), and the GLI/EGF target IL1R2 in human skin (Fig. 6). GLI1 and GLI2 have previously been shown to be expressed in the outer root sheath (ORS) of human anagen hair follicles (25, 38). Consistent with our in vitro data, we found strong expression of IL1R2 in the ORS of anagen hair follicles, where staining was restricted to the region below the sebaceous gland (Fig. 6A and C). A similar pattern was observed for EGFR, though staining extended further towards the hair bulb (Fig. 6B and D). Double immunofluorescence analysis clearly revealed coexpression of IL1R2 (Fig. 6E) and EGFR (Fig. 6F) in ORS cells. In line with the activation of IL1R2 expression by synergistic GLI and EGFR/ERK signaling, phosphorylated nuclear p-ERK1/2 protein also localized to the ORS (Fig. 6G). Together with the findings that the JAG2 and CCND1 GLI/EGF target genes are also expressed in the ORS region of anagen hair follicles (74, 107), the results suggest that synergistic signaling of the EGFR and HH/GLI signal transduction pathways shown in vitro may also operate in vivo. However, the data do not rule out the possibility that ERK1/2 may also be activated by signaling pathways other than EGFR.

Modulation of epidermal stem cell marker expression and keratinocyte proliferation by GLI1/EGF signaling. The expression patterns of IL1R2 and EGFR in a region of the ORS that lies in or close to the putative stem cell niche (bulge region) (23) of human hair follicles may point to a role of combined HH/GLI and EGFR signaling in modulating the fate of ORS cells. We addressed this speculation by analyzing the expression of hair follicle stem cell markers (KRT15, KRT19, NES, TNC, and CD71) (52, 60, 96, 103) in human N/TERT-1 keratinocytes in response to GLI1 and EGFR signaling. As shown in Fig. 7A, expression of GLI1 in the absence of extracellular stimuli induced elevated mRNA levels of all stem cell markers tested. Intriguingly, the addition of EGF essentially neutralized the effect of GLI1 such that expression levels of stem cell markers were comparable to control cells transduced with EGFP-expressing retrovirus. Accordingly, mRNA levels of the CD71 gene, which encodes the transferrin receptor that is absent in stem cells (96), increased in response to GLI1/EGF. These results show that GLI1 can elicit a stem cell-like expression signature in epidermal cells and that this signature can be prevented by simultaneous EGF signaling.

Loss of stem cell-like expression signatures by treatment of GLI1 keratinocytes with EGF may point to a proliferative role of combinatorial GLI/EGF signaling in human skin. This is supported by the observation that both HH/GLI and EGFR signaling have previously been implicated in proliferative control and growth of human keratinocytes and anagen hair follicles, respectively, and by our own data presented in this study showing enhanced induction of CCND1 expression by concomitant GLI1 and EGF signaling (16, 28, 58, 67, 72, 94, 95). Furthermore, we have previously shown that GLI1 and GLI2 promote G1-phase-to-S-phase progression in serum-containing medium, while they fail to do so under starving conditions, suggesting that additional mitogenic stimuli are required to allow GLI proteins to exert their proliferative activity (75, 77) (G. Regl and F. Aberger, unpublished data). We therefore asked whether the proliferative effect of GLI1 on human keratinocytes depends on parallel EGFR signaling. As shown in Fig. 7B and C, expression of tetracycline-inducible GLI1 in confluent HaCaT keratinocyte cultures induced entry into S phase as monitored by BrdU incorporation. EGF alone or in combination with GLI1 did not further increase the number of cells in S phase. However, presence of the selective EGFR-inhibitor gefitinib (0.5 μM) completely abrogated the S-phase-promoting effect of GLI1, suggesting that activation of EGFR signaling is essential for GLI-induced proliferation. At this concentration (and even up to 1.5 μM), gefitinib affects neither the expression of EGF-independent GLI targets, such as PTCH and BCL2 genes, nor the overall cell viability (also see Fig. 4A) (data not shown); concentrations higher than 1.5 μM were not tested. qRT-PCR analysis of cell cycle progression genes revealed, to a variable extent, enhanced expression in response to combinatorial GLI1/EGF signaling compared to either stimulus alone. Consistent with results obtained with BrdU incorporation assays, the addition of 0.5 μM gefitinib inhibited GLI1- and GLI1/EGF-induced expression of cell cycle progression genes, most notably expression of CKS1B and CDC45L (Fig. 7D). The results uncover an essential role for EGFR signaling in GLI-induced cell cycle progression and suggest that combinatorial HH/GLI and EGFR signaling promote keratinocyte proliferation by cooperative induction of cell cycle progression genes.

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http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/14691458



The zinc-finger transcription factor GLI2 antagonizes contact inhibition and differentiation of human epidermal cells.
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Oncogene. 2004; 23(6):1263-74 (ISSN: 0950-9232)
Regl G; Kasper M; Schnidar H; Eichberger T; Neill GW; Ikram MS; Quinn AG; Philpott MP; Frischauf AM; Aberger F
Institute of Genetics, University of Salzburg, Hellbrunner Strasse 34, A-5020 Salzburg, Austria.

In stratified epidermis, activation of the Hh/Gli signal transduction pathway has been implicated in the control of cell proliferation and tumorigenesis. The zinc-finger transcription factor Gli2 has been identified as critical mediator of the Hh signal at the distal end of the pathway, but the molecular mechanisms by which Gli2 regulates cell proliferation or induces epidermal malignancies such as basal cell carcinoma are still unclear. Here, we provide evidence for a role of human GLI2 in antagonizing contact inhibition and epidermal differentiation. We show by gene expression profiling that activation of the GLI2 oncogene in human keratinocytes activates the transcription of a number of genes involved in cell cycle progression such as E2F1, CCND1, CDC2 and CDC45L, while it represses genes associated with epidermal differentiation. Analysis of the proliferative effect of GLI2 revealed that GLI2 is able to induce G1-S phase progression in contact-inhibited keratinocytes. Detailed time-course experiments identified E2F1 as early transcriptional target of GLI2. Further, we show that GLI2 expression in human keratinocytes results in a marked downregulation of epidermal differentiation markers. The data suggest a role for GLI2 in Hh-induced epidermal neoplasia by opposing epithelial cell cycle arrest signals and epidermal differentiation.


 
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