Hasson&wong Liposomal Topical Finasteride- Anyone Using?

Quest

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I, along with many, have sides from oral finasteride, hasson&wong's liposomal solution seems to be a good in-between. Has anyone got their hands on this solution, had results, or better yet, find that they have reduced sides from the topical solution vs the oral?

Before anyone says, "topical finasteride is the same as oral" please research the liposomal method of delivery, as it's believed to stay local ie no sides, which is why this could be a godsend for the sides suffering peeps.

I want this sh*t to hit the US already, someone fill us in on how it's working for them, please!
 

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I find it funny that they said it would be released in the US at the end of March. It's now August lol
 

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I find it funny that they said it would be released in the US at the end of March. It's now August lol


agreed, I feel like it may be a while considering how long anything in the US takes to be approved.
 

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I got tired of waiting and bought carlos Wesley's topical. Hair Growth Blend. It applies nicely. I've been using it for 2 weeks.
 

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I got tired of waiting and bought carlos Wesley's topical. Hair Growth Blend. It applies nicely. I've been using it for 2 weeks.

CARLOS WESLEY is a DEAR FRIEND OF MINE!!!! meh... nevermind. Anyways, can you please list all the ingredients in his topical? I have a feeling it's something like Murray aves?
 

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I got tired of waiting and bought carlos Wesley's topical. Hair Growth Blend. It applies nicely. I've been using it for 2 weeks.
How much is it? How do you get it? Can you get it by mail?
 

Quest

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I got tired of waiting and bought carlos Wesley's topical. Hair Growth Blend. It applies nicely. I've been using it for 2 weeks.


also very curious about this, haven't heard a thing about it, but after a little research it looks similar to the H&W approach to lower sides. Could you give us some more info, process, pricing, availability etc?
 

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CARLOS WESLEY is a DEAR FRIEND OF MINE!!!! meh... nevermind. Anyways, can you please list all the ingredients in his topical? I have a feeling it's something like Murray aves?

Haha, good one!

I believe it's .01 finasteride, 6% min and caffeine

$220, last 4 months. Call his office then send pictures and it'll come in the mail. It'sa spray. It goes on nice. I only used it for 2 weeks. I'm trying it in the mornings. It dry relatively fast and doesn't make your hair and oil slick or drys it out. I'm trying different hair products for style such as clay or pudy.
http://www.drcarloswesley.com/new
 

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Using minoxidilmax Essengen 0.05% finasteride 6% Min for 2 months - nothing to report as yet
 

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I was about to book a flight to go see Hasson & Wong for the prescription, then when I called to make an appointment the receptionist told me that they're not giving out prescriptions to US patients until it's able to be compounded in the US, not even if you go all the way to Vancouver.

As for the ETA on the USA availability, she guessed another 3-4 months (this was early July).
 

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Anyone using H&W topical finasteride? I will be starting soon.
Would you be able to run hormone tests before and after using it for month or so? Could you also get a hair trap for your shower to measure how much you were losing before and after?
 

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Would you be able to run hormone tests before and after using it for month or so? Could you also get a hair trap for your shower to measure how much you were losing before and after?

I have a before test.. but no DHT tested, no E2.. only testosterone. I'll try to get another blood test done before....
 

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I'm amped to try topical finasteride, especially H&W's when it's available in the US. Although what I'm still trying to figure out is why topical finasteride works. Because inhibiting DHT locally makes sense but, as we know, finasteride inhibits 5AR and DHT more or less circulates in the body. So what's stopping 5AR somewhere else in the body from making DHT which circulates to the scalp?

This question's been asked before but I haven't found an explanation! I guess at the end of the day, if it works and has less systemic dht who cares lol. But still I'm curious.
 

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I'm amped to try topical finasteride, especially H&W's when it's available in the US. Although what I'm still trying to figure out is why topical finasteride works. Because inhibiting DHT locally makes sense but, as we know, finasteride inhibits 5AR and DHT more or less circulates in the body. So what's stopping 5AR somewhere else in the body from making DHT which circulates to the scalp?

This question's been asked before but I haven't found an explanation! I guess at the end of the day, if it works and has less systemic dht who cares lol. But still I'm curious.

“Dr. Lee: Actually its both. By the way Finasteride (the active ingredient in Propecia) does work topically. When Merck was doing their trials, they had to make a decision as to what they felt would be a better selling product: A pill, or a topical applied solution. By far, people would rather take a pill, so this is the route they took. To answer your question: Why don’t topicals work as well? It’s for many reasons. One reason is that it doesn’t stay in the skin long enough. That’s the problem with progesterone. It’s absorbed, metabolized, and carried away so quickly that it’s not effective when it’s applied topically. Another problem is absorption. There are very few things that get absorbed into skin very well at all. Its quite the protective device.”

Excerpt from Merck’s patent description:

“[0031] The present invention has the objective of providing methods of treating the hyperandrogenic conditions of androgenic alopecia, including male pattern baldness and female pattern baldness, acne vulgaris, seborrhea, female hirsutism, and polycystic ovary syndrome by systemic, oral, parenteral or topical administration of a 5.alpha.-reductase 2 inhibitor in a dosage amount under 5 mg/day, and particularly, from about 0.01 mg/day to 3.0 mg/day, and more particularly 0.05 to 1 mg/day. The invention is further illustrated by dosages of about 0.05 to 0.2 mg/day and specifically dosages of about 0.05, 0.1, 0.15 and 0.2 mg/day. Exemplifying the invention are dosages of 0.05 and 0.2 mg/day. The term “treating androgenic alopecia” is intended to include the arresting and/or reversing of androgenic alopecia, and the promotion of hair growth. Also, a 5.alpha.-reductase 2 inhibitor, e.g. finasteride, at a dosage under 5 mgs/day can be used in combination with a potassium channel opener, such as minoxidil or a pharmaceutically acceptable salt thereof, for the treatment of androgenic alopecia, including male pattern baldness. The 5.alpha.-reductase 2 inhibitor and the potassium channel opener may both be applied topically, or each agent can be given via different administration routes; for example, the 5.alpha.-reductase 2 inhibitor may be a
 

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“Dr. Lee: Actually its both. By the way Finasteride (the active ingredient in Propecia) does work topically. When Merck was doing their trials, they had to make a decision as to what they felt would be a better selling product: A pill, or a topical applied solution. By far, people would rather take a pill, so this is the route they took. To answer your question: Why don’t topicals work as well? It’s for many reasons. One reason is that it doesn’t stay in the skin long enough. That’s the problem with progesterone. It’s absorbed, metabolized, and carried away so quickly that it’s not effective when it’s applied topically. Another problem is absorption. There are very few things that get absorbed into skin very well at all. Its quite the protective device.”

Excerpt from Merck’s patent description:

“[0031] The present invention has the objective of providing methods of treating the hyperandrogenic conditions of androgenic alopecia, including male pattern baldness and female pattern baldness, acne vulgaris, seborrhea, female hirsutism, and polycystic ovary syndrome by systemic, oral, parenteral or topical administration of a 5.alpha.-reductase 2 inhibitor in a dosage amount under 5 mg/day, and particularly, from about 0.01 mg/day to 3.0 mg/day, and more particularly 0.05 to 1 mg/day. The invention is further illustrated by dosages of about 0.05 to 0.2 mg/day and specifically dosages of about 0.05, 0.1, 0.15 and 0.2 mg/day. Exemplifying the invention are dosages of 0.05 and 0.2 mg/day. The term “treating androgenic alopecia” is intended to include the arresting and/or reversing of androgenic alopecia, and the promotion of hair growth. Also, a 5.alpha.-reductase 2 inhibitor, e.g. finasteride, at a dosage under 5 mgs/day can be used in combination with a potassium channel opener, such as minoxidil or a pharmaceutically acceptable salt thereof, for the treatment of androgenic alopecia, including male pattern baldness. The 5.alpha.-reductase 2 inhibitor and the potassium channel opener may both be applied topically, or each agent can be given via different administration routes; for example, the 5.alpha.-reductase 2 inhibitor may be a

thanks. last bit got cut off though
 
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