HELP! Just need some guidance.

[Andy76]

Hi, I'm 34 and I have hair loss my hair loss is causing me anxiety.

I'm losing it on the crown approximately 4-5cm in diameter. It's hereditary in my family, so I guess I can expect the worse... My father is 70 and has pretty much lost all his hair on top.

I have no hair loss regime as yet...And really do not want to start taking the drugs which are recommended. But I want to do something about it.

Really want to find out more about a hair transplant. And whether a FUE or Strip would be best. Have done a lot of research and realise it's the quality fo the doctor you shoud be looking for.

Unfortunatley there are loads of clinics, but few places online that give you real unbiased opinions to how good they are. I'd like to know who's good in the UK. What I can expect to pay. And whetere I should wait until my hair gets worse in say 5 years?

Also, what are the side effects?
Thanks loads.

Andy.

 

[Joe-1991]

Farjo is meant to be good in the UK isn't he? i am sure you will get plenty of answers for that question. You should also consider traveling abroad considering that it will cost a lot of money anyway.

Side effects? with finasteride and dutasteride you mean? YES!

Finasteride alters hormone profiles to be the same as 5AR2 deficient pseudohermaphrodites - that is a person whose external sex organs look intermediate between the typical clitoris or penis (google it)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... ds=1689740

It also causes cell death and atrophy of the prostate

http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/81/2/814.abstract

It is now also becoming evident that PERMANENT side effects are very real risk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAZ3-t7vJeg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZqDkI37CcU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXWVTStnHs

The 3rd video is a guy from the UK who has been dealing with his side effects for over 8 years now

Of course, you might be fine on the drug but i am just making you aware of the risks

 

[israelite]

clincial studies show 98% men experience no sides fincar 18 thats a fact! have u seen the Evaluation of efficacy and safety of finasteride 1?mg in 3177 Japanese men with androgenetic alopecia study? stop spitting and spewing false information

 

[Joe-1991]

False information? they are peer reviewed articles and studies.

The 98% figure is bullshit and everyone knows it. Merck have a HUGE reputation for sweetening up doctors, oh and hiding side effects and killing people. Do you HONESTLY believe that 3000+ men could drastically cut there DHT levels and not suffer side effects?

DHT is 10x more powerful than testosterone. Have you seen the symptoms of low testosterone?

Speak to any biologist or proper endocrinologist and they will tell you finasteride is absolute poison for any man.

Why don't you try to view propecia.com - it is the official website for the drug after all. Oh wait, the site is down because they know they are about to get sued for ruining thousands of lives AGAIN.

http://propecia.com/sitedown.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6192603/ns/ ... ds-deaths/

I used to be simple minded like you and went by 'clinical studies' so i was in ignorant bliss. It's only since i spoke to a few family friends that are doctors that i realized how shockingly corrupt big pharma is. Bare in mind that it's the biggest business to ever exist on this planet. Obviously, in most cases it doesn't matter - what do people usually get from the doctor? antibiotics, antihistamines, pain killers etc. None of these drugs are likely to make you impotent or do anything majorly bad that will effect your immediate life.

FINASTERIDE is a whole different story. It is a drug that is used to control the symptoms of BPH. That's why medicines are developed; TO CONTROL SYMPTOMS. It DRASTICALLY alters your hormone levels - swinging towards a total catastrophe recipe for men.

I assume you know how the drug was discovered?

There was a study on 'pseudo-hemaphrodites' in the Dominican Republic by Jennifer Imperato-Mcginley in 1974 which noted that they had smaller prostates and no hairloss. Merck realised formulating this could cash in on treating BPH and also of course hairloss and make $$$$. Never mind that these genetic freaks were raised as girls until their balls dropped at age 12, and had micropenises.

When you take finasteride, you are taking a drug that alters/ atrophies your prostate and hormone levels to that of people that do not develop proper secondary sexual chracteristics - this is FACT, no study required.

It is no surprise that my penis has shrunk drastically and a sexual thought hasn't crossed my mind in years.

 

[israelite]

there is risk of taking any drug. CLINICAL STUDIES show 98% of men have no sides. please show me a clinical studies study showing other wise. the most recent japan CLINICAL study finds propecia to be safe. Recently, a research team in Japan answered these requests with one of the largest and most conclusive finasteride studies since the initial FDA trials.

In the study, 3,177 Japanese men with androgenic alopecia (male pattern baldness) were given 1mg of Propecia from January 2006 through June of 2009. Of the 2,561 patients who completed the entire study, 2,230 (87.1%) demonstrated new hair growth, with 11.1% showing “great growth increase,â€￾ 36.5% “moderate increase,â€￾ and 39.5% “slight increase.â€￾ Adverse sexual side effects (including reduced libido and erectile dysfunction) were observed in only 0.7% of patients, even less than the 2% quoted in the original Propecia study. Based on this data, the research team concluded that Propecia is a safe and effective treatment for androgenic alopecia in Japanese males (and also stated that the results are unlikely to vary between males of different ethnic backgrounds). This study helps confirm the safe and effective nature of Propecia (finasteride) for treating male hair loss.
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[israelite]

The Medicines and Healthcare Regulatory Agency report shows propecia to be one of the worlds most copied drugs and a drug that is extremely easy to sell online. The scam of selling fake Propecia is one of the easiest scams online because the drug takes up to three months of regular use before the effects are visible. This means that a man who buys a fake and dangerous version of the hair loss drug will not immediately realise that he has been sold a fraudulent product. Eventually when results still do not appear after the three months he will probably just think that he’s one of the unlucky men for whom the Propecia drug does not function. It is estimated that thousands of men around the world have stopped using Propecia believing that it doesn’t work for them when in fact if they had used a real version of Propecia made by the drug company Merck they would have experienced good results and possibly hair regrowth.

 

[Jl8T]

There is NO way your penis could "shrink" from taking this drug. You're talking about changes at a cellular level (rearranging collagen and cell remodeling) no way this drug does that ( how could it). I know you are gonna say "well look at what it does to the prostate it shrinks it" thats a totally different mechanism. Prostate hyperplasia/hypertrophy is an abnormal condition in which the cells are overactive and overgrown due to genetics and hormones (this is not the case with penile tissue). If anything say your c*** doesnt get as hard so its not as long as it used to be but dont make yourself look like an idiot and spout off about your shrinking dong, open a biochem book up sometime or hell at least use wikipedia. Oh and i think you are confusing the 5-ar deficient males in the study with a condition called Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. Children born genetically male XY (those are chromosomes by the way) but lack androgen receptors so look physically female in every way except they lack a uterus. The 5-ar deficient males lived normal lives and raised children, the one difference they had, no hairloss! And the only reason some had under developed sex organs is androgens are necessary for formation of those organs, once formed their role is negligible (DHT that is). You can search these things because they are FACT not made up fear tactics. I understand you and other people had terrible experiences from the drug but that is by far a tiny minority so stop with the propaganda. Tell about your negative sides and let the facts speak for themselves, don't make sh*t up

 

[IrishFella]

There is NO way your penis could "shrink" from taking this drug. You're talking about changes at a cellular level (rearranging collagen and cell remodeling) no way this drug does that ( how could it). I know you are gonna say "well look at what it does to the prostate it shrinks it" thats a totally different mechanism. Prostate hyperplasia/hypertrophy is an abnormal condition in which the cells are overactive and overgrown due to genetics and hormones (this is not the case with penile tissue). If anything say your c*** doesnt get as hard so its not as long as it used to be but dont make yourself look like an idiot and spout off about your shrinking dong, open a biochem book up sometime or hell at least use wikipedia. Oh and i think you are confusing the 5-ar deficient males in the study with a condition called Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. Children born genetically male XY (those are chromosomes by the way) but lack androgen receptors so look physically female in every way except they lack a uterus. The 5-ar deficient males lived normal lives and raised children, the one difference they had, no hairloss! You can search these things because they are FACT not made up fear tactics. I understand you and other people had terrible experiences from the drug but that is by far a tiny minority so stop with the propaganda. Tell about your negative sides and let the facts speak for themselves, don't make sh*t up

:bravo:

Same to you Israelite, backing up ypur claims with official statistics from various sources. Finasteride has been on the market since 1994 to treat BPH and since 1997 to treat male pattern baldness, it's safe, but it does have side effects and adverse effects (remember they are different things), like all synthetic drugs.

Just keep an eye on things if you do consider taking it.

Good luck, OP.

 

[israelite]

Fincar18, get real and have some sense. EVERY1 of your post u are bashing propecia! u are also telling people to PURCHASE it online. u have no shame! u need a script for propecia. buying drugs online is DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!Rogue Web sites are all over the Internet selling drugs that are not what they appear to be. These sites may be selling drugs that are counterfeit, contaminated, or otherwise unsafe. NABP continually reviews Web sites selling prescription drugs to help you see through rogue sites. Of the over 8,000 Internet sites reviewed, NABP found that 96% of the sites fall in the Not Recommended category.

 

[israelite]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3dsJE6UMOs

 

[Rawtashk]

Since no one else has even attempted to answer your question.....

If you're losing hair and not on any medication, then I wouldn't suggest that you get a hair transplant. Transplanting hair will not do anything to stop your other hairs from falling out.

My personal opinion is that you have 2 options if you have a family history of complete balding
1: Take finasteride and get a transplant
2: Accept the balding.

You could also try Nizoral shampoo and rogaine to see if you can slow it down...but neither one of those things will keep that hair on your head for long-term.

It's the sad, but true, fact :-/




As for the finasteride bashing...there's a risk to everything. People have gotten their clothes caught in a escalator and lost limbs or even DIED...yet I don't see anyone saying "OMG! TAKE THE STAIRS!!!" There's a risk in everything, and there's a risk in finasteride. However, the risk is VERY minor. Many many many clinical studies have been performed (NOT just by Merk) that have proved this.

 

[Andy76]

Thanks.

Nizoral: that the anti-dandruff shampoo?

See there is 2 types. A nomal and a 2%. Which should I use?

Toppik any good?

 

[Wuffer]

You can try Nizoral but I tried it for half a year on its own with no results at all. I honestly don't think it does much, as there have only been a few small studies that show it actually helps with hair loss.

Toppik is a really good product as long as you understand that it doesn't do anything to treat your hair loss. Some people use it for years and find it difficult to stop using it when hair loss has progressed so far (since everyone suddenly sees you are completely bald). As mentioned, a hair transplant would be a waste of time without taking medications, as your hair would continue to fall out except in transplanted areas, making for a very unusal look.

Your best option is medication. If you don't want to do that, you can try using toppik, but I would personally recommend just shaving your head and waiting till a beter treatment is available.

 

[israelite]

andy i apologize for going off topic on your thread. i agree with Rawtashk & Wuffer. this week i am starting new experimental hairloss products and i will keep u informed. i personally found nizoral to be to harsh on my hair.

 

[multispeed27]

andy i apologize for going off topic on your thread. i agree with Rawtashk & Wuffer. this week i am starting new experimental hairloss products and i will keep u informed. i personally found nizoral to be to harsh on my hair.

do you quit all other treatment while trying the new product? otherwise your results are not really saying anything at all about the new product. just saying