High T On Duta Destroying My Hair. Solution?

[Harv]

Hi guys
So I've been taking dutasteride for over 9 months now and my scalp feels better, the dht has been suppressed to nearly non existent however before I started taking duta I had low testosterone levels and now my bloodwork shows I have high levels of testosterone.
This shift of testoreone levels has had a negative impact on my hair even though the dHT has been suppressed. The shift of increased T has consequently also promoted my body hair growth and increased my libido significantly.
Please this is my biggest issue in tackling my hairloss problem and will be a breakthrough for me if I can find a solution to this problem. How do I counter the high testoreone in my body whilst taking dutasteride?

 

[Harv]

post blood test results of before and after, including t, free t, SHBG and DHT in blood. High testosterone means nothing. If your SHBG is sky high, your free T is gonna be low as hell. And since only DHT affects hair follicles (per claims) negatively, there is no need to worry about your T levels. If you were to eliminate your T levels, you’d be unable to do most of the things you do.

watch this: high T does effect hair follicles just not as much as dht (and my total T is high)

 

[Upnadam10]

Hi guys
So I've been taking dutasteride for over 9 months now and my scalp feels better, the dht has been suppressed to nearly non existent however before I started taking duta I had low testosterone levels and now my bloodwork shows I have high levels of testosterone.
This shift of testoreone levels has had a negative impact on my hair even though the dHT has been suppressed. The shift of increased T has consequently also promoted my body hair growth and increased my libido significantly.
Please this is my biggest issue in tackling my hairloss problem and will be a breakthrough for me if I can find a solution to this problem. How do I counter the high testoreone in my body whilst taking dutasteride?

Hi harv - I'm 7 months in and my hair has stuggled as well. I've noticed increase thinning behind the hairline which was never my problem area. the crown is about the same which was the area I was trying to address. What has your experience been like?

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

that kid is a roidhead with rosacea who doesn’t know a thing about t or DHT. I’ll pass bro.

You know nothing but pretend like an expert in the hair loss field. Androgens, in general, are bad for hair. DHT is a lot worse for hairs compared to testosterone, But both T and DHT will make your hair follicles to shrink.

 

[INT]

that kid is a roidhead with rosacea who doesn’t know a thing about t or DHT. I’ll pass bro.

You might already be one of the most obnoxious and ignorant users of 2020. Congrats.

 

[Harv]

We know that T can affect hair.
What do we do for those who get a spike in T(increased libido) from duta/fina?
Hair is diminishing due to this affect

 

[Harv]

Hi harv - I'm 7 months in and my hair has stuggled as well. I've noticed increase thinning behind the hairline which was never my problem area. the crown is about the same which was the area I was trying to address. What has your experience been like?

I have had a surge in testerone causing me to be horny all the time, but at the same time my dHT has been suppressed and my scalp do sent itch and get inflammed that much.
All I can say really its having a positive and negative effect at the same time, due to the homoral imbalance.

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

The kid in the video gets his gear from people I personally know. He’s a dumbass. Plus he’s suggesting ralox while on antiandrogens to reverse gyno. Not only that won’t work, you will drop ralox at some point and your igf1 will take a long long time to recover. See, the problem with you morons is the googling. You google “raloxifene” it says “it is used to help with gyno”, and BAM you have your verdict. Have you tried to find out how raloxifene works? The damage on the liver? The fact that both ralox and nolva work by REDUCING igf1? That’s how estrogen is blocked. Have you tried to find out how exactly that works? I have. Have you tried to find out what happens to an adult with consistent low levels of igf1? How will that affect vital functions? And besides, is this making sense to you? Ok let’s say you take ralox for 6 months even. Then what? Finasteride is FOR LIFE. You can’t take any AI for life. When you stop taking ralox or nolva, the same thing will happen again. You will develop gyno in fact faster than previous time. And your hormones will be out or wack. Everything I type in this forum is for the member’s health. Not his gains, not his hair, not his ego. Health, then everything else follows. Health may not be a concern for you or for a teenager or for a guy in his early twenties. But TRUST me son, you WILL care. There are a ton of things that can go wrong and I’m sure you don’t wanna die for hair. Consistent or irregular drug use (these are potent strong drugs) can lead to a host of issues, one particularly is polyps development. Very interesting, usually harmless and small, won’t see it unless you do a thorough ultrasound in the lower core. Guess what, that sh1t can get carcinogenic and it’s game over just like that. Know how many steroid users die from this? Thousands. You won’t read about it. Why would you? You google sh1t.

So quit fcuking flexing on me because I know more than meets the eye. If you wanna yolo it, go do it. The very name of his channel is cringe, more dates more plates? Are you fcuking kidding me...

You have done a lot of research on Ralox. By the way, I was not talking about Ralox or Nolva. Now, you do some research about the effect of testosterone on hair follicles. I am sure you will find the answer. Don't be ignorant.

 

[Harv]

You have done a lot of research on Ralox. By the way, I was not talking about Ralox or Nolva. Now, you do some research about the effect of testosterone on hair follicles. I am sure you will find the answer. Don't be ignorant.

this is very frustrating I have tried to find the solution to countering the High T for many months but have had no luck..
is there a way or am I just chasing a lost cause?

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

this is very frustrating I have tried to find the solution to countering the High T for many months but have had no luck..
is there a way or am I just chasing a lost cause?

If you are at least 25 years old and very desperate for hair, you can look into oral bicalutamide. Most probably it will preserve your sexual function while keeping your hair intact. But before hopping on such an aggressive regimen, do some research about the possible side effects. There are few members on this forum who are taking bicalutamide with great result.

 

[Harv]

If you are at least 25 years old and very desperate for hair, you can look into oral bicalutamide. Most probably it will preserve your sexual function while keeping your hair intact. But before hopping on such an aggressive regimen, do some research about the possible side effects. There are few members on this forum who are taking bicalutamide with great result.

would that be instead of taking dutasteride or taking it in combination?
what's the difference with bica & dutasteride? (will it stop the spike in T)?

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

would that be instead of taking dutasteride or taking it in combination?
what's the difference with bica & dutasteride? (will it stop the spike in T)?

Look, I am not here advising to anybody to try anti-androgens. It is better to take Bicalutamide with any 5-alpha reductase inhibitor. Bicalutamide will increase your test level even more. However, this increased testosterone would be blocked AR receptors, so not harm to the hair. Bicalutamide has the 80% gynocosmetia rate .

 

[Harv]

I have taken advodart and finastride for 9 months consistently and my t levels haven't dropped, it's hard to focus when I've consistently got a high libido, I dont see signs of it lowering after 9 months.
I know this elevated raise in T is the reason why my hair will continue to get worse and still have no solution.

 

[Harv]

Look, I am not here advising to anybody to try anti-androgens. It is better to take Bicalutamide with any 5-alpha reductase inhibitor. Bicalutamide will increase your test level even more. However, this increased testosterone would be blocked AR receptors, so not harm to the hair. Bicalutamide has the 80% gynocosmetia rate .

I'm not sure about bica it seems quite extreme, it's used for people in very adanced stages of cancer

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

I'm not sure about bica it seems quite extreme, it's used for people in very adanced stages of cancer

Other options are spironolactone, Cyproterone Acetate , Hair transplant, scalp micro pigmentation , shaved head , wigs. Spironolactone actually worked for me but side effects were real. Bicalutamide is the safest anti-androgen.

 

[Harv]

ultimately there all similar in the way they all suppress dHT and cause T level to rise. I just don't get how the majority of people get a dexrease in libido and i get an increase

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

Basing that upon what? Besides the fact that this isn’t used, isn’t advised to be used and there is no 20-40 years of research on it for humans for a prolonged time, not to mention lifetime. At least finasteride has some sort of background to explain for some of its positive and negative results. But you googled bico and it’s now the safest. Merry Christmas.

Compared to other anti-androgens , bicalutamide is relatively safe. It was introduced in 1992 ( i.e. before propecia). Use of bicalutamide is not recommended for hair loss but it doesn’t mean that it is not effective. If you didn’t know this already, I am done talking to you. Happy new year.

 

[StevenGerrard]

Look, I am not here advising to anybody to try anti-androgens. It is better to take Bicalutamide with any 5-alpha reductase inhibitor. Bicalutamide will increase your test level even more. However, this increased testosterone would be blocked AR receptors, so not harm to the hair. Bicalutamide has the 80% gynocosmetia rate .

that is way too high -- such a shame

if it wasn't for the high risk of developing gyno I would gladly take bica

 

[Harv]

Many experience an increase in testosterone higher than the rest. I experienced it when I took it, blood tests confirmed 20% reduction in blood DHT and an almost 50% increase in my total testosterone. My levels though were low so the increase wasn’t noticeable. My SHBG and Prolactin also skyrocketed, which made the effect even less noticeable. I think this is a receptor thing too but now I’m only guessing. Haven’t looked into it. Your best bet is to continue the treatment as you’re supposed to. If you add estrogenic drugs to the mix, you are definitely going to become less horny.

But I assume your libido had dropped on finasteride/dutasteride, even with high t levels. These drugs are known to increase estrogen+testerone levels by 15% or so that's common knowledge, however they are not meant to keep your libido high, as one of the main common side effects is decreased libido. If I'm experiencing a high libido for 9 months I know something isn't right especially when my hair is getting worse

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

Youre braindead. I wrote so much yet you decide to block your ears. It doesn’t matter when it was introduced you moronic parrot. It matters whether it has a history of being tested in humans extensively and for long periods of time regarding hair loss. It hasn’t. Which means it is absolutely not safe to take it. Period. You’re suggesting to this guy to take it as a propecia alternative and stating it is not only “super safer but also effective. You create a false opinion based on childish math you ensued from googling. The average hair loss talk member in a nutshell. spironolactone for example has much more history, it is frequently advised by doctors to be carefully trialed as well next to propecia. I wonder why you didn’t tell him to take ten grams of fevipiprant, I’m sure overdosing an asthma treatment for the next twenty years is also safe.

You donkey... I am not advising him to take bica. There are many users who regrow their hair on bicalutamide. I never said that bica is safer than propecia.. You stupid moron.