hoping 2016 is my final year with this

[dekaz]

i actually started treatment about a year ago, though back then i was just learning and i spent 2015 pretty much trying different things and not giving anything a good consistent try. also bounced back between doing treatment and "accepting baldness" a lot, but i decided for myself that i will give it all i can for 2016, and if in 2017 it still is terrible, i will just shave it.

i got some pros and cons i think


Pros for treatment:

possible chance of regaining hair

Cons for treatment/pros for shaving:

having to look at my patchy/receded hair in all its glory every morning
nasty sticky minoxidil every morning and evening and stuck on fingers - dabbed on my keyboard as i type this right now.
i look pretty good bald
can let my hair go and just shave my head when i shave my face, instead of worry everyday if i will ever look good again.


main thing is i think i just want to accept im bald and move on, rather than spend the rest of my life crying in the mirror every morning.

i think i can pull off this type of look,i like the idea of shaving head with face so they grow at same rate:

i dont like the goatee style that makes bald guys look like pedophiles

 

[big_head]

Yeah if you shave it, you have no choice but to go for the muscular, stoic look, beard or not. Work out and frankly, dress sexy and masculine. Don't wear bright blue shirts, smile like an idiot and...sob on camera because your ex-girlfriend was a jerk.

The guy in the top picture has a good skull shape but more importantly, he is giving off a different image and vibe than the guy on the bottom. Any guy who has no choice but to shave should be trying to emulate the top guy and not doing anything the bottom guy is doing.

 

[yetti]

much mocked in this thread, yet he is a very popular youtube personality with over 5,000,000 subscribers and over 500,000,000 (!) views ... so perhaps one should do exactly what he is doing

 

[myhairbegone]

I think youll be fine either way. You got a good shaped head for bald guy. Im not as lucky in that department =)

 

[big_head]

much mocked in this thread, yet he is a very popular youtube personality with over 5,000,000 subscribers and over 500,000,000 (!) views ... so perhaps one should do exactly what he is doing

He's also the guy that let himself be used and abused by some trashy girl. Ray William Johnson was the same way and even more popular. Wouldn't trade places with either of them....that's not the guy I want to be.

 

[yetti]

He's also the guy that let himself be used and abused by some trashy girl. Ray William Johnson was the same way and even more popular. Wouldn't trade places with either of them....that's not the guy I want to be.

point is, his bald head isnt exactly turning people off to him, which is contrary to what you read in this forum (and this thread) regarding bald guys who dont look like the Rock.

 

[big_head]

point is, his bald head isnt exactly turning people off to him, which is contrary to what you read in this forum (and this thread) regarding bald guys who dont look like the Rock.

Really? I think if you showed those two pictures to 100 women, at least 80 of them would find the bald guy in the first picture much more attractive.

The truth is, baldness is a great hindrance in both cases. It narrows your choices if you wish to still be attractive to the opposite sex. If he had a full head of hair, it would completely change the dynamic of that picture.

People are not "turned off" by bald people, as in they go running and screaming from them. If that was the case, Larry David would not be as popular as he is.

But if you're bald, you're put into a black and white type of category. Most women would find Larry David funny, but would they find him sexy? Most women would like Matt Santoro, or whatever his name is in the second picture, but do they find him sexy?

Now the Rock, do women find him sexy? yes, with or without hair, but that's because the rock is dark skinned and jacked and tall and fit himself into the masculine tough guy role before he even went bald.

If you're a "normal guy" with hair, you can be sexy to some women and not sexy to other women by just existing.

When you are bald or have to shave your head, you have to choose one of 2 boxes to fit into it. Either women can see you as powerful and strong or as the "nice bald guy who is not threatening to anyone". Guess which one actually gets laid?

I'm not trying to be paranoid here, it's just a simple fact. It's why so many men fear balding. I'm in shape, yeah? I have some muscle, I'm slim. But I don't really want to play the jacked tough guy role. I don't need to when I have thick, sexy hair, I can just be me and be attractive. But if I have to shave it, I have to compensate. I really think THIS fact is the main crux of baldness anxiety for young men. Female friends and relatives don't get the anxiety because they are thinking of you from a platonic stand point. Not a "this guy is young and wants to have sex regularly" stand point. They will never understand that because they see you as their poor balding friend/brother/son. They don't think sex is important to you, and the idea of you having pity sex once every 4 years probably seems like it will be good enough for a schlub like you. I know that seems crass and evil, but that's how women view lots of men they have no interest in banging. It's why they'll never really understand your pain unless THEY go bald.

Does all that rambling make sense?

 

[yetti]

But if you're bald, you're put into a black and white type of category. Most women would find Larry David funny, but would they find him sexy? Most women would like Matt Santoro, or whatever his name is in the second picture, but do they find him sexy?

Here's a sample comment online about him that I found almost immediately:

if there's anyone sexier
pls post pics
because I dunno if there is @_@

Sure I think a lot of girls are probably into him. The picture above is obviously with a goofy smile, he looks better without it. If you look at the comments you'll find a lot of people into his apperarance (and without a doubt I'm sure some are not). As for Larry David, I think he's a good looking man and if he were going for sexy rather than comedy, he could pull it off. He could shave the sides, whatever. And as it stands in fact some women do find him sexy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...awrence-s-advances-admits-love-interview.html

He's a very good looking man with a very good looking family
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity...daughter-cazzie-david-instagram-pics-20152010

 

[shookwun]

Platonic love for lust not even once.

'i love his music, and stage presence'

'I want him to **** me'


difference. It's publicity....

 

[yetti]

'I'm in love with him, and I have been for a really long time,' she gushed. 'I worship Woody Allen but I don't feel it below the belt the way I do for Larry David.'

 

[big_head]

'I'm in love with him, and I have been for a really long time,' she gushed. 'I worship Woody Allen but I don't feel it below the belt the way I do for Larry David.'

Do you honestly think Jennifer Lawrence wants to bang Larry David in real life? You don't think it's just her joking around? Even if she was being serious (she isn't), you have to factor in the fact that he has 800 million dollars and is a huge celebrity. 99% of us won't ever be in that bracket.

Compare Larry David to another older male celebrity- George Clooney- and see how many women want to **** George compared to Larry.

Women also claim they hate "bad boys" and don't find "jerks" sexy. Their actions prove otherwise.

I mean, if you really believe all this BS, grow your hair out like Larry David and shave the top clean, die your hair grey. Make videos crying on youtube about how a girl hurt you and you're sensitive. If you bang a dozen chicks in a month because you did these things, I'll take back everything I said and stop caring about my balding.

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Platonic love for lust not even once.

'i love his music, and stage presence'

'I want him to **** me'


difference. It's publicity....

Exactly. When it comes down to it and we're talking about a girl being face to face with a naked man, sex appeal always wins. You don't see that in the real world in public, only in private. I've been on both sides of this coin and the difference is striking. Any girl that seems normal and "sweet" completely changes and talks differently when she is straight up horny for you. Women put you into 2 categories: guys they want to bang, guys they don't.

Like I said, it's the same difference as a woman telling you it "doesn't matter". It doesn't matter to HER because she isn't trying to bang you and she does not see your sexual desires as anything important.

 

[shookwun]

Do you honestly think Jennifer Lawrence wants to bang Larry David in real life? You don't think it's just her joking around? Even if she was being serious (she isn't), you have to factor in the fact that he has 800 million dollars and is a huge celebrity. 99% of us won't ever be in that bracket.

Compare Larry David to another older male celebrity- George Clooney- and see how many women want to **** George compared to Larry.

Women also claim they hate "bad boys" and don't find "jerks" sexy. Their actions prove otherwise.

I mean, if you really believe all this BS, grow your hair out like Larry David and shave the top clean, die your hair grey. Make videos crying on youtube about how a girl hurt you and you're sensitive. If you bang a dozen chicks in a month because you did these things, I'll take back everything I said and stop caring about my balding.

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Exactly. When it comes down to it and we're talking about a girl being face to face with a naked man, sex appeal always wins. You don't see that in the real world in public, only in private. I've been on both sides of this coin and the difference is striking. Any girl that seems normal and "sweet" completely changes and talks differently when she is straight up horny for you. Women put you into 2 categories: guys they want to bang, guys they don't.

Like I said, it's the same difference as a woman telling you it "doesn't matter". It doesn't matter to HER because she isn't trying to bang you and she does not see your sexual desires as anything important.

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[video=youtube;AiBMzdU9i2I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiBMzdU9i2I[/video]

 

[yetti]

Sure, I think she was probably serious to a large degree. Jokes like that rarely have no truth to them, no I don't think she was making a cruel joke at the expense of Larry David (haha isnt it funny that im saying that im attracted to the bald guy), though I know that would be the view here. He's a good looking... and yes confident (arrogant? bad boyish?) and a rich man.

FWIW, I was sitting next to an actual woman watching curb your enthusiasm and she told me that shes into him. I think a lot of women probably are. As a lot of women are also probably into the other guy mentioned in this thread with his 500,000,000+ views.

 

[big_head]

Sure, I think she was probably serious to a large degree. Jokes like that rarely have no truth to them, no I don't think she was making a cruel joke at the expense of Larry David (haha isnt it funny that im saying that im attracted to the bald guy), though I know that would be the view here. He's a good looking... and yes confident (arrogant? bad boyish?) and a rich man.

FWIW, I was sitting next to an actual woman watching curb your enthusiasm and she told me that shes into him. I think a lot of women probably are. As a lot of women are also probably into the other guy mentioned in this thread with his 500,000,000+ views.

As I said, if you really believe Larry David is perceived as a sexy bad boy (seriously?) to women, shave your head on top if you still have significant growth up there, grow your hair long on the sides and back and start acting extremely neurotic about every little misfortune in your life. I am sure the women will be falling at your feet in no time dude.

 

[yetti]

Whatever, dude. The point of my post in this thread is simply this. A photo was posted of a bald guy. It was said, here, that he looks like a child molester, and that no one should copy anything he is doing. I pointed out that he's not a random criminal but rather someone who people want to see, to the tune of half a billion hits. So it's interesting how a balding or bald guy sees another bald guy, and the reality. That's all. Feel free to stay in sad, bald is molester, bald is pathetic world if you want.

By the way, I do see that you're not dealing in absolutes. You've been careful to say, "most" women aren't into it, that "80%" of women would prefer the first guy to the second. So I mean actually we don't disagree. I'm not saying that more often than not it probably reduces attractiveness in the eyes of a majority of women. But... that's a long way from molester, not sexy to ALL women, etc., things which are constantly posted here.

 

[big_head]

Whatever, dude. The point of my post in this thread is simply this. A photo was posted of a bald guy. It was said, here, that he looks like a child molester, and that no one should copy anything he is doing. I pointed out that he's not a random criminal but rather someone who people want to see, to the tune of half a billion hits. So it's interesting how a balding or bald guy sees another bald guy, and the reality. That's all. Feel free to stay in sad, bald is molester, bald is pathetic world if you want.

By the way, I do see that you're not dealing in absolutes. You've been careful to say, "most" women aren't into it, that "80%" of women would prefer the first guy to the second. So I mean actually we don't disagree. I'm not saying that more often than not it probably reduces attractiveness in the eyes of a majority of women. But... that's a long way from molester, not sexy to ALL women, etc., things which are constantly posted here.

I already explained being bald does not stop people from wanting to consume your content. Otherwise Moby wouldn't have been famous in the 90s.

I also said 80% because there are always outliers. And also, I never once said bald men couldn't be sexy, just that your average bald man is not seen that way. If you're bald, you have very little options as far as looking sexy. Skinny guys can have a dark mop of hair and be seen as the sexiest men on earth. Bald skinny guys? Not so much.

The bottom line is this: with hair, you have options AND you look more "normal". These things make getting sex and dates easier, this is objectively true.

Being bald, you can still get laid, but your physique, style, game and personality have to be impeccable and even then, many women will turn you down because they just don't like bald dudes.

Life is hard enough, and sex is an effort for most men. When the average guy is playing on Hard Mode, why would anyone want to play on European Extreme? It just means investing more time into something that you could probably spend doing other things.

 

[yetti]

Life is hard enough, and sex is an effort for most men. When the average guy is playing on Hard Mode, why would anyone want to play on European Extreme? It just means investing more time into something that you could probably spend doing other things.

I'm curious. What do you mean exactly by sex is an effort for most men? Thats an interesting statement...

 

[big_head]

I'm curious. What do you mean exactly by sex is an effort for most men? Thats an interesting statement...

It's self explanatory. The vast majority of men have to actively pursue sex and seduce a woman. It doesn't fall into our laps unless you're in the top 10-20% of attractive men. I'm talking celebrities, male models, really jacked tall guys, etc and even those men usually have to make the first move. The vast majority of guys don't have sex thrown at them. The average 20 year old woman, however, does. Even ones that are incredibly average looking want men who are better looking then them, and any guy who is at their level has to put in effort to get laid.

 

[yetti]

OK, now I get "Life is hard enough, and sex is an effort for most men."

Jeez where's the party? Things aren't that bad dude... that said I've noticed that a lot of younger guys seem to have less interest in sex than back in the day. I can tell you that 25 years ago not too many dudes looked at hooking up challenges as "investing more time into something that you could probably spend doing other things." I think something is in the air. As has been much reported, maybe this is what happens when a society grows up staring at screens rather than other human beings... animal instincts start to disappear

 

[big_head]

OK, now I get "Life is hard enough, and sex is an effort for most men."

Jeez where's the party? Thangs aren't that bad dude... that said I've noticed that a lot of younger guys seem to have less interest in sex than back in the day. I can tell you that 25 years ago not too many dudes looked at hooking up challenges as "investing more time into something that you could probably spend doing other things." I think something is in the air. As has been much reported, maybe this is what happens when a society grows up staring at screens rather than other human beings... animal instincts start to disappear

huh? It's not that men are less interested in sex- the opposite is probably true. It's just that women had the "sexual revolution" and now have apps like Tinder which is basically "find me the hottest guy to ****, please". As a man you have the hardest competition for sex than ever before and women have no shame in cheating or one night stands, so getting married is also a pretty bad idea. That and women care more about men's looks than ever before.

So unless you are born naturally gifted in your genetics it's an uphill battle for most average dudes. Going bald is just adding another obstacle.