House Pricing Debate

[zeroes]

is it really £600K?

is it not more like £300K?

I'd hardly call that regular, defo middle to upper middle.

is it 4 bedroom, 2 bath, garden (how big) + garage.

i'd say my parents place is about 20% more expensive than yours.

but if it is in the 400K range, then you're parents house is upper middle.

you seem to equate size with how far you are in the property market, via area, im trying to explain to you that is not the truth, I state again, why would moving 10 miles to another location make you "rich" for that area, you earn the same amount as you would anyway.

In Australia house prices are determined by location not size. Infact what is valuable is the land not the house itself.

Regardless house price does not equal personal status. Bruce Willis could live in a cardboard box but he is still rich.

You owning a 350k house and living on welfare will still make you a low class bum.

Unless you sell or rent it out you have no money thus low class. Deal with it.

You won't be able to do either of the above until your parents pass on. It's time you grew up and became a man.

 

[Quantum Cat]

so you live on your own? rent apartment, what are bills like.

as I've said in the past, I don't live with my parents any more. I'd much rather live alone in a small flat like I do now, than live with my parents. I'm 30.

so I have to do my own laundry now- it's a small price to pay for living independently and not having my parents breathing down my neck

 

[HairPieceMan]

really?

but how much does that cost, to live on your own.

I dont believe you, why would you leave a 500K parents home and move into a tiny flat and pay alot of money to live there (rent)

do you pay rent and food, how much is rent, I take it you have a job then, to pay the rent.

but surely you have hardly any spending money at the end of the month.

 

[ChrisW1980uk]

QC now you'll have to provide a breakdown of expenses. Even then he won't accept what you're saying. I'm convinced he has aspergers, the symptoms marry up perfectly. I could be wrong, and totally maligning those on the Autistic Spectrum :/

 

[Quantum Cat]

I dont believe you, why would you leave a 500K parents home and move into a tiny flat and pay alot of money to live there (rent)

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because unlike you, my independence is more important to me than the size/value of the house I'm in - plus I find living with my parents irritating. They could own a £2 million mansion and I would still not want to live there any more, even though it meant getting my meals cooked and laundry done for me.

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QC now you'll have to provide a breakdown of expenses. Even then he won't accept what you're saying. I'm convinced he has aspergers, the symptoms marry up perfectly. I could be wrong, and totally maligning those on the Autistic Spectrum :/

I think it's more BDD. People with autism aren't really concerned about money/social status

 

[ChrisW1980uk]

Why is always a tiny flat that HPM brings up? Even when I told him I lived in a house, he was going round calling it a flat!

He can't accept others seeing things differently to him. Classic Aspergers. I mean come on QC, a girl kissed him at a party, he knows women!

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Oh and the accusation of being a liar comes out. There's only one liar here, and it's HPM.

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http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt67005.html

 

[HairPieceMan]

but does it not suck to pay rent (or are your parents paying it?)

 

[Quantum Cat]

but does it not suck to pay rent (or are your parents paying it?)

I agree that renting is throwing money away, but I'm not in a position to think about buying a house at the moment, either financially or mentally. I will one day

 

[HairPieceMan]

well obviously.

rofl if you don't have a mortgage by 30, I don't see how your financial situation would change drastically by the time your 40, but surely you would only afford a mortgage with big savings, which you will never have as your renting?

I just don't see the appeal tbh, most people in my area in 20s are living with parents homes worth £200K+, that's kinda normal for this type of up-bringing, I'd rather co-share with my mum and hand her £300 a month to live here (arguably £150 a month since she buys food for me), but I don't see why i'd pay rent in a small flat, those places are real dives and cost £400 a month rent.

http://www.lettingweb.com/property-view/Dundee-City/Maryfield/DD4/U80AB4?path=flats-to-rent/dundee

yeah this 1 bedroom is £500 + £150-£200 food, that's £700 total!

but most jobs pay out £900 a month.

do you live in a flat like that on your own, or co-share rent, you'd have to be out of your mind to pay that much to live in the tiny est place in the city.

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and I don't see how I will be more attractive to women paying £700 a month to live in a 1 bedroom flat, vs living with my mum in a place 6x the size of that for £0 a month.

I dont see how women would be disgusted by this at all, this is my problem what with chris making a HUGE deal about me living with parents, even in 20s, that is normal, even if its £150K home, it's still normal, also those stats I linked where 70% of people lived on their own, they were mostly coming from poor rented flats background.

 

[ChrisW1980uk]

No doubt he is saying I bullied him over him living at home, it's perfectly normal etc. This is a classic HPM trick. He was bragging that women would be wowed by his parent's house and "wealth". I disabused him of this delusion. Yes, many men do live with their parents in their 20s. But they want to move out and have independence. This is a trait that women find attractive. HPM has said before he doesn't want a job, and his happy to live with his parents forever. But HPM pours scorn on anyone who wants to live their own lives! Let's not forget, his "experience with women" comes from one girl at a party years ago....

 

[Quantum Cat]

do you still have him on ignore? :mrgreen:

he just said:

well obviously.

rofl if you don't have a mortgage by 30, I don't see how your financial situation would change drastically by the time your 40, but surely you would only afford a mortgage with big savings, which you will never have as your renting?

I just don't see the appeal tbh, most people in my area in 20s are living with parents homes worth £200K+, that's kinda normal for this type of up-bringing, I'd rather co-share with my mum and hand her £300 a month to live here (arguably £150 a month since she buys food for me), but I don't see why i'd pay rent in a small flat, those places are real dives and cost £400 a month rent.

http://www.lettingweb.com/property-view/Dundee-City/Maryfield/DD4/U80AB4?path=flats-to-rent%2fdundee

yeah this 1 bedroom is £500 + £150-£200 food, that's £700 total!

but most jobs pay out £900 a month.

do you live in a flat like that on your own, or co-share rent, you'd have to be out of your mind to pay that much to live in the tiny est place in the city.

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and I don't see how I will be more attractive to women paying £700 a month to live in a 1 bedroom flat, vs living with my mum in a place 6x the size of that for £0 a month.

I dont see how women would be disgusted by this at all, this is my problem what with chris making a HUGE deal about me living with parents, even in 20s, that is normal, even if its £150K home, it's still normal, also those stats I linked where 70% of people lived on their own, they were mostly coming from poor rented flats background.

 

[HairPieceMan]

QC surely you must feel like **** though, to "spend" 80% of your wages on living expenses!

are you earning £900 a month, or £1500 a month.

seriously I don't get it.

i understand chris, if he moves in with girl co-share the rent, middle market parents home, doesn't get on well with parents.

but you, i mean £400K home with parents, that is a TOTAL babe magnet, but to live in 1 bed flat, and pay full rent, on your own?

I mentioned before I am seeking emplyoment, I applied for 2 jobs this month, one is 20 hour a week, is around £700 a month, its still not enough to pay full rent on my own rofl.

 

[ChrisW1980uk]

Yeah, he's still on ignore! He said he was going to put me on ignore too, after I'd said that to him, mind. Well that validates what I've just said. I didn't make a HUGE (caps for emphasis as he does) deal. I explained it to him ad nauseum. He then went onto argue endlessly about his wealth (which still hasn't got him anywhere with women) and how I was poor and a liar etc etc. I posted details to prove him wrong which he wouldn't then accept he was wrong, and apologise for calling me a liar. He tried to say I'd had a poor upbringing etc. He's been tackled on the "wealth" claims many times, yet doesn't go after anyone else the way he does with me. How dare I have had success with women and had a life, being shorter than him? I mean the audacity of me, not to conform to his rigid views!!

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And how will he get a mortgage by 30? He hasn't worked for years. But then his mum pays for everything, his car, his insurance etc. I mean what women wouldn't be creaming herself over such a mummy's boy?!

 

[HairPieceMan]

I have viewed chris's last 2 posts.

i never said him poor, only that I was rich, then he attacked me saying I was sad to live with parents and NO girl would be with a man that lives with parents, and i said I know 10+ couples that live with parents sepearetely in 20s, its common, then he dismissed that, it was at that point I called him poor as he was saying bad things to me.

I guarantee you people are together regardless of living with parents.

he also plays down my experience with women, he is the one saying "no girl" "only 1 girl at a party" , "virgin" and all that.

fact is he paints his life of me negatively, when I have said nothing of the sort.

whereas I have said NOTHING bad to him on his life with women, after saying some stats I called Bull**** on those stats, but I didnt call him a man with never any girl or anything.

He keeps saying "unsuccesful with girls", when in fact I have not said whether I am or not, just that I am not in Long term commmited relationship.

he is saying way worse things on me.

 

[Quantum Cat]

i mean £400K home with parents, that is a TOTAL babe magnet,
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you really think so? then why don't you have women lining up to date you?

 

[ChrisW1980uk]

you really think so? then why don't you have women lining up to date you?

That was my point QC. Who talks like that in 2012? TOTAL (caps for emphasis AGAIN) babe magnet? No doubt he will become vague on his experience of women yet again...

 

[HairPieceMan]

vs. a 1 bed flat, YES!

I have had this before trust me, you need to show girls your family home.

maybe in the past I have, I don't at the moment.

my friend is coming down this month (february), he will get me into social group with girls, then I'M, IN!.

 

[Quantum Cat]

vs. a 1 bed flat, YES!

I have had this before trust me, you need to show girls your family home.

maybe in the past I have, I don't at the moment.

my friend is coming down this month (february), he will get me into social group with girls, then I'M, IN!.

good luck - you'll need it! :woot:

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I have viewed chris's last 2 posts.

i never said him poor, only that I was rich, then he attacked me saying I was sad to live with parents and NO girl would be with a man that lives with parents, and i said I know 10+ couples that live with parents sepearetely in 20s, its common, then he dismissed that, it was at that point I called him poor as he was saying bad things to me.

I guarantee you people are together regardless of living with parents.

he also plays down my experience with women, he is the one saying "no girl" "only 1 girl at a party" , "virgin" and all that.

fact is he paints his life of me negatively, when I have said nothing of the sort.

whereas I have said NOTHING bad to him on his life with women, after saying some stats I called Bull**** on those stats, but I didnt call him a man with never any girl or anything.

He keeps saying "unsuccesful with girls", when in fact I have not said whether I am or not, just that I am not in Long term commmited relationship.

he is saying way worse things on me.

quoted for Chris

 

[ChrisW1980uk]

Oh the "friend" who has been coming down for over a year now? That old chestnut! And just as I said, vague about women. Tells it's own story...

 

[HairPieceMan]

you still not explained your monthly earning, or your rent.

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yes I view another of his posts, again he puts me down on women, I am not vague, I am just simply mute on the subject.

Notice I have never put him down legitimately on his posts for women.