How Do You Guys Deal With The Worst Days?

[Exodus2011]

Why would you be depressed if you gotten your hair back?

lol thats exactly it. finasteride hardly ever gets your "hair back". its good for maintenance, and moderate regrowth but mostly bald to mostly full head? naw

 

[swingline747]

I don't mean bad hair days here.
I'm talking about those of us who just look plain bad.

I've been on finasteride for 18 months. No improvement, a bit of shedding. I'm sticking to medication, but chances are I'm fucked for life.

Often, over the past 6 months, I have had suicidal ideation, been thinking about suicide almost daily. I won't do it to my family.... I just turned 26. But I can't see any good reason other than that to go on living. I don't know what to do with my life anymore..... Sure, I can get on antidepressants, work hard and "get by". But what's the point? What's the point of trying so hard, the point of doing anything at all if my life is going to be painful... and I have completely lost the ability to ever be happy?

How do I deal with this? I know it will never pass.... there's no solution unless I have miraculous results with finasteride AFTER these 18 months... how do you guys deal with this bullshit?

working out and music. I love to work out, and I like writing and making music. I also refuse to EVER write anything whiny and sad so that is a big help.
What hobbies do you have?

 

[hanginginthewire]

I feel like crap today myself. So sick of dealing with this. I want to shake every oblivious fullhead I see: Do you know how lucky you are?? Do you??!

 

[Baldingat188]

I urge A lot of the members here who are depressed/suicidal and on propecia to consider a short break from finasteride, considering a side effect of the drug is depression and it seems as if MAJORITY of the depressed/suicidal members in here are on finasteride. It would be pretty important to rule out finasteride as the culprit to being in such a state mentally.

Not to discount the depression that actual balding brings on,I'd know, I was depressed as f*** before finasteride, but never considered suicide prior or while on finasteride.

Finasteride can definitely be adding to that and possibly even being the culprit to suicidal ideation.

Dude , the reason depression and sucicide is a side affect of propecia is because guess who takes propecia? People losing their freaking hair! And it's damn depressing . That's why people are sad , not the meds

 

[JeanLucBB]

Dude , the reason depression and sucicide is a side affect of propecia is because guess who takes propecia? People losing their freaking hair! And it's damn depressing . That's why people are sad , not the meds

Yeah I've had depression since I was ten at differing levels over the years and if anything I've had depressive states far less while on propecia. Big difference between feeling sh*t because of a legitimate problem like hairloss and mental problems which propecia has nothing to do with.

 

[Baldingat188]

you may be right that you need to distract yourself from hair loss if you want to feel better (assuming you are doing everything you can to fix it in the first place) but hair loss is unique in that it REDUCES YOUR ACTUAL WORTH. that makes it worse than 99% of problems

most poeple's "problems" are meaningless and minor and stupid. boo hoo gf broke up with me (get another one, doesnt change you as a person), i'm poor (work hard), etc. its all so stupid

OP, one kind of person you can look at to feel better are uglies. theyre ugly no matter what they do with hair. i'm not going to lie most of my friends are ugly. perversely it helps me feel a lot better L O L.

of course like i said though if you really want to feel better GET MORE HAIR. you need to focus on saving for a transplant.

actually fixing your problems >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing your response to them

So true man and that is why therapy will never work for making me feel better about hairloss. Sometimes it's nice to vent to a therapist but it will never ultimately make me feel better about hairloss. No such thing as accepting going from average looking to ugly as a young guy.

 

[g.i joey]

Yeah I've had depression since I was ten at differing levels over the years and if anything I've had depressive states far less while on propecia. Big difference between feeling sh*t because of a legitimate problem like hairloss and mental problems which propecia has nothing to do with.

okok so just because it doesn't apply to your personal situation, it can't be applicable to anyone else, I don't give a fk about your made up depressed 10 year old self.

Jesus f*** why are so many people closed minded on these forums? Is it because you're scared it's gonna happen to you? what's so hard about admitting the possibility of sides are real? "Oh this doesn't apply to me so it shouldn't apply to anyone" smh, some people do in fact get depression as a side effect from the drug, the same way some people get sexual sides, yes, hairloss is depressing but if you've never had suicidial ideations before and started getting them after starting finasteride, there is an OBVIOUS chance that it can be related to finasteride.

 

[JeanLucBB]

okok so just because it doesn't apply to your personal situation, it can't be applicable to anyone else, I don't give a fk about your made up depressed 10 year old self.

Jesus f*** why are so many people closed minded on these forums? Is it because you're scared it's gonna happen to you? what's so hard about admitting the possibility of sides are real? "Oh this doesn't apply to me so it shouldn't apply to anyone" smh, some people do in fact get depression as a side effect from the drug, the same way some people get sexual sides, yes, hairloss is depressing but if you've never had suicidial ideations before and started getting them after starting finasteride, there is an OBVIOUS chance that it can be related to finasteride.

lmfao, I'm just telling you mate, there is no legitimate evidence of finasteride side effects extending to depression. None of the early studies pinpointed it and they had the largest scale and length.

Years later a bunch of f***** opportunists came along wanting to blame their depression on something external as a cope, it became mainstream to do so and now a bunch of others copy their nonsense.

1/3 to 1/2 the placebo group get sides in every single finasteride study I have seen. There is a lot of whining and nonsense about this drug from people who already had problems to begin with and want to blame something.

 

[g.i joey]

lmfao, I'm just telling you mate, there is no legitimate evidence of finasteride side effects extending to depression. None of the early studies pinpointed it and they had the largest scale and length.

Years later a bunch of f***** opportunists came along wanting to blame their depression on something external as a cope, it became mainstream to do so and now a bunch of others copy their nonsense.

1/3 to 1/2 the placebo group get sides in every single finasteride study I have seen. There is a lot of whining and nonsense about this drug from people who already had problems to begin with and want to blame something.

I know 2 people personally who got off the drug due to side effects related to their well being. I mean it's actually pretty simple man, you don't have to look at a finasteride study for this, look at the symptoms of elevated estrogen and your answers are all there. Which is why I put emphasis on the fact that it can be a contributing factor to depression, sometimes the culprit and also other times completely unrelated to finasteride. I hate people who take the drug and completely discount sides, it's like you just wanna blind yourself to the possibility of them being real, and then seeing the fact that you're on .25mg just makes me believe that you're scared to admit these sides may be happening in a minority of users, so instead of remaining unbiased you're picking a side and staying on it, good for you bro.

And I agree with you, the fear mongerers are very obvious and f*****g ruin it for the few that really do get sides, but that doesn't change the fact that there is people out there genuinely getting side effects from
The drug, is that really so hard to believe lol?

 

[rclark]

I don't mean bad hair days here.
I'm talking about those of us who just look plain bad.

I've been on finasteride for 18 months. No improvement, a bit of shedding. I'm sticking to medication, but chances are I'm fucked for life.

Often, over the past 6 months, I have had suicidal ideation, been thinking about suicide almost daily. I won't do it to my family.... I just turned 26. But I can't see any good reason other than that to go on living. I don't know what to do with my life anymore..... Sure, I can get on antidepressants, work hard and "get by". But what's the point? What's the point of trying so hard, the point of doing anything at all if my life is going to be painful... and I have completely lost the ability to ever be happy?

How do I deal with this? I know it will never pass.... there's no solution unless I have miraculous results with finasteride AFTER these 18 months... how do you guys deal with this bullshit?

Smoke some weed. It will make you feel better.

 

[shookwun]

Alcohol, dim lights and under some form of head apparatus tends to temporarily ease the pain.

 

[SmoothSailing]

I suffer from anxiety, panic attacks and sometimes depressive episodes. I self medicate with xanax, weed, alcohol, music, chess, tv and internet forums.


Right now I feel terrible, no particular reason, I just feel sh*t, anxious, like everything is pointless, so I pop 3 xanax, drink a few cans, no weed here in shitty Bolivia, music and chess for a few hours, then probably fall asleep while watching latest south park. Hoping that tomorrow it's gone. If not a few more xanax, and I'll walk for a few hours possibly crying whilst walking. Crying helps for some reason.

Strange thing is that in general I'm happy, I just go through phases started by the dumbest sh*t.

Anyway this is terrible advice, just the truth of my, drug addicted, situation.

At least I don't smoke cigarettes I say to myself as I spark up a joint and crack open a can of beer.

Also try chess.com, it's like a form of meditation for me, all is forgotten during a game.

 

[INT]

lmfao, I'm just telling you mate, there is no legitimate evidence of finasteride side effects extending to depression. None of the early studies pinpointed it and they had the largest scale and length.

Years later a bunch of f***** opportunists came along wanting to blame their depression on something external as a cope, it became mainstream to do so and now a bunch of others copy their nonsense.

1/3 to 1/2 the placebo group get sides in every single finasteride study I have seen. There is a lot of whining and nonsense about this drug from people who already had problems to begin with and want to blame something.

You have no idea what you are talking about and you are extremely disrespectful towards people that actually got fucked pretty bad by this drug.

 

[JeanLucBB]

You have no idea what you are talking about and you are extremely disrespectful towards people that actually got fucked pretty bad by this drug.

Then why is the placebo group in most of the studies listing half the amount of side effects that the legitimate finasteride group get? Even in independent studies.

Chronic fatigue is thought to effect 0.5-2% of the population which is similar to the side effects profile of finasteride, and the symptoms I hear are very, very similar. 2-3% of users getting libido issues if they are over the age of 25 is also just a fact of life, whether or not some people want to admit it.

If I sound disrespectful, it is only because of the wretched, and horrific suffering I endured by not getting on the drug at 18 when I first noticed hairloss. Instead I listened to the degenerate, lying fucktard crazies and ended up drastically damaging my life and forced myself down the hair transplant route. I shouldn't have listened to the crazy bastards and should have just got on it at 18. The multiple independent studies are hard proof that bad sides are in the minuscule minority, and most of them probably had chronic fatigue or erectile dysfunction to begin with.

Finasteride crazies hurt more people than they help, the vast majority (95% or more) will benefit from finasteride. I hope every anti-finasteride nut job that convinced me not to get on the drug suffers as much as I did having to go to a diffused norwood 3 with crown loss at 22. They can rot in hell, f*** them and their delusional bullshit.

 

[INT]

Then why is the placebo group in most of the studies listing half the amount of side effects that the legitimate finasteride group get? Even in independent studies.

Chronic fatigue is thought to effect 0.5-2% of the population which is similar to the side effects profile of finasteride, and the symptoms I hear are very, very similar. 2-3% of users getting libido issues if they are over the age of 25 is also just a fact of life, whether or not some people want to admit it.

If I sound disrespectful, it is only because of the wretched, and horrific suffering I endured by not getting on the drug at 18 when I first noticed hairloss. Instead I listened to the degenerate, lying fucktard crazies and ended up drastically damaging my life and forced myself down the hair transplant route. I shouldn't have listened to the crazy bastards and should have just got on it at 18. The multiple independent studies are hard proof that bad sides are in the minuscule minority, and most of them probably had chronic fatigue or erectile dysfunction to begin with.

Finasteride crazies hurt more people than they help, the vast majority (95% or more) will benefit from finasteride. I hope every anti-finasteride nut job that convinced me not to get on the drug suffers as much as I did having to go to a diffused norwood 3 with crown loss at 22. They can rot in hell, f*** them and their delusional bullshit.

So I am lying?

Before I started finasteride I woke up with rock hard morning wood EVERY morning, no exceptions. Even when I was completely wasted I could still get it up and be rock hard.

I quit finasteride more than one year ago an my morning woods has still not come back and my erections are on average stil only 80% of what they were.

Just because it did not happen to you does not mean it is not a real thing. Nowadays it is even confirmed by signs that you are more likely to get ED if you are/have been on finasteride compared to non finasteride users....

 

[Saurabhaj]

Then why is the placebo group in most of the studies listing half the amount of side effects that the legitimate finasteride group get? Even in independent studies.

Chronic fatigue is thought to effect 0.5-2% of the population which is similar to the side effects profile of finasteride, and the symptoms I hear are very, very similar. 2-3% of users getting libido issues if they are over the age of 25 is also just a fact of life, whether or not some people want to admit it.

If I sound disrespectful, it is only because of the wretched, and horrific suffering I endured by not getting on the drug at 18 when I first noticed hairloss. Instead I listened to the degenerate, lying fucktard crazies and ended up drastically damaging my life and forced myself down the hair transplant route. I shouldn't have listened to the crazy bastards and should have just got on it at 18. The multiple independent studies are hard proof that bad sides are in the minuscule minority, and most of them probably had chronic fatigue or erectile dysfunction to begin with.

Finasteride crazies hurt more people than they help, the vast majority (95% or more) will benefit from finasteride. I hope every anti-finasteride nut job that convinced me not to get on the drug suffers as much as I did having to go to a diffused norwood 3 with crown loss at 22. They can rot in hell, f*** them and their delusional bullshit.

Do you even have idea how many people have gone in court against Finasteride.
There was some meeting for this to settle the matter outside court in september.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Do you even have idea how many people have gone in court against Finasteride.
There was some meeting for this to settle the matter outside court in september.

Settling out of court does not mean their case was legitimate. Companies settle out of court as it is often easier than going to trial even if they don't believe there is a legitimate case.

 

[CopeForLife]

I suffer from anxiety, panic attacks and sometimes depressive episodes. I self medicate with xanax, weed, alcohol, music, chess, tv and internet forums.


Right now I feel terrible, no particular reason, I just feel sh*t, anxious, like everything is pointless, so I pop 3 xanax, drink a few cans, no weed here in shitty Bolivia, music and chess for a few hours, then probably fall asleep while watching latest south park. Hoping that tomorrow it's gone. If not a few more xanax, and I'll walk for a few hours possibly crying whilst walking. Crying helps for some reason.

Strange thing is that in general I'm happy, I just go through phases started by the dumbest sh*t.

Anyway this is terrible advice, just the truth of my, drug addicted, situation.

At least I don't smoke cigarettes I say to myself as I spark up a joint and crack open a can of beer.

Also try chess.com, it's like a form of meditation for me, all is forgotten during a game.

I thought getting weed is easy in South America.

 

[tomJ]

https://www.aboutlawsuits.com/propecia-depression-study-2-123941/

 

[JeanLucBB]

So I am lying?

Before I started finasteride I woke up with rock hard morning wood EVERY morning, no exceptions. Even when I was completely wasted I could still get it up and be rock hard.

I quit finasteride more than one year ago an my morning woods has still not come back and my erections are on average stil only 80% of what they were.

Just because it did not happen to you does not mean it is not a real thing. Nowadays it is even confirmed by signs that you are more likely to get ED if you are/have been on finasteride compared to non finasteride users....

I'm not a beta cuck though dw I'll be fine.

I genuinely sympathize with those hurt by the drug, but the studies prove that around half the users with sides are making it up because the placebo gets half as many sides as the actual drug.

Beyond that 95% of us would never have had to deal with serious baldness if they had got on finasteride early. Personally I avoided it early on because of batshit crazy fuckers on the internet who said it would ruin lives, and ended up hurting myself. Dumb f*** anti finasteride crazies hurt more people than they help, they should keep their bullshit to themselves and accept they are betas. Working out increases testosterone which should help too.

Also 80% of prior erections sounds like an impossible figure to actually come up with. That is probably in your head.