How effective is minoxidil alone?
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Primo
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If your sides are bad I'd recommend quitting finasteride altogether. 0.5mg or even 0.25mg finasteride will inhibit almost the same amount of DHT as 1mg, there is very little difference in potency, so you'll still get the same side effects...
You'd have to lower your dose to 0.05mg a day before you'd see a significant drop in DHT inhibition and sides.
Try spironolactone and/or Revivogen or that CB formula stuff, all three are reportedly "safer" antia ndrogens and will work like finasteride to keep your hair.
minoxidil and nizoral will give you regrowth for around 18months or so, but as Man U says, your male pattern baldness will catch up with the pace of the minoxidil growth at this point and you will start to lose ground. Still minoxidil and nizoral regimen is better than nothing if you really can't tolerate ant-androgens.
You'd have to lower your dose to 0.05mg a day before you'd see a significant drop in DHT inhibition and sides.
Try spironolactone and/or Revivogen or that CB formula stuff, all three are reportedly "safer" antia ndrogens and will work like finasteride to keep your hair.
minoxidil and nizoral will give you regrowth for around 18months or so, but as Man U says, your male pattern baldness will catch up with the pace of the minoxidil growth at this point and you will start to lose ground. Still minoxidil and nizoral regimen is better than nothing if you really can't tolerate ant-androgens.
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Primo said:
I have just started min and nizoral too. I am researching anti androgens, is there one that you have heard on here to generally work ok apart from finasteride? Sorry still kinda new to this stuff
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Some people say Revivogen topical is a good DHT blocking product
This whole 'minoxidil only works for 2 years' bullshit is a rumor started on these forums by Bryan.
Many people, myself included, have been using it for many years and have had good results.
To address the question of how effective would a minoxidil and nizoral only regime be...well that really depends on how aggressive your hair loss is. If you are shedding many hairs a day and already have noticably thinning hair, then I'm afraid it will probably do very little. However if you are just over, say a Norwood 2, and don't shed hair then it will probably work more effectively. It depends on the individual I guess.
Try it for a while and see how you get on
Many people, myself included, have been using it for many years and have had good results.
To address the question of how effective would a minoxidil and nizoral only regime be...well that really depends on how aggressive your hair loss is. If you are shedding many hairs a day and already have noticably thinning hair, then I'm afraid it will probably do very little. However if you are just over, say a Norwood 2, and don't shed hair then it will probably work more effectively. It depends on the individual I guess.
Try it for a while and see how you get on
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Tom1985 said:
Really? How do you explain the long-term studies with topical minoxidil showing a slow but steady decline in hairweights and haircounts? :dunno:
Price showed such an effect in her 1999 study(1) that tested minoxidil for 96 weeks (almost two years), and took very careful measurements every six weeks. The results were as I've already indicated: slow but steady declines during that period of time. Olsen's earlier study(2) showed a similar effect, and it was monitored over a period of a full five years! Counts weren't taken as often as they were in Price's later study, but the results were still the same: steadily declining values, over a full five years.
(1) "Changes in Hair Weight and Hair Count in Men with Androgenetic Alopecia, after Application of 5% and 2% Topical Minoxidil, Placebo, or No Treatment", Price et al. J Am Acad Dermatol 1999; 44: 717-21.
(2) "Five-Year Follow-Up of Men with Androgenetic Alopecia Treated with Topical Minoxidil", Olsen et al. J Am Acad Dermatol 1990; 22: 643-6.
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skootz said:
Anything with copper-peptides should be a reasonable choice (Tricomin or Folligen), but considering the recent controversy over Tricomin, I'll go ahead and suggest what I think is probably the best addition of all: Prox-N. That has a number of additional ingredients, besides simply copper-peptides (like TEMPO/TEMPOL and PBN). It's an over-the-counter (OTC) product.
sharkies said:
Recently I discovered my baseline pictures that I forgot about from 4 years ago when I just took some pictures to see how I look from above. From this point I was using Regaine 2% for 2-3 years. I wasn't considering this a treatment, because my dermatologist told me that 2% is too low and if I want something I should try 5% or propecia. If I saw thos baseline pictures that day, I would stick with the 2%, but I was thinking it is getting worse.
So when I found those pictures I started to compare my front with the pictures taken 2-3 years from then. I gained 1 cm on the temples, the existing hair which was limp became thicker, like the rest of the hair.
I messed things up when I stopped 2% Regaine(I thought it was worse and wanted hair on the temples) and tried propecia for 3 months-then quit, and 5% minoxidil mixed in a local pharmacy for a year.
This is an interesting topic.
I used minoxidil alone for 5 years (once a day) with great results (after taking finasteride + minoxidil for 2 years)
However now starting to see a lot of thinning. Is the minoxidil not working anymore? as I've upped it to 2x a day now. Also starting using Nizoral.
I used minoxidil alone for 5 years (once a day) with great results (after taking finasteride + minoxidil for 2 years)
However now starting to see a lot of thinning. Is the minoxidil not working anymore? as I've upped it to 2x a day now. Also starting using Nizoral.
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My thread, minoxidil alone 1x a day so far pretty good, however just been 6 months, so i have no idea how effective it will stay.
My thread, minoxidil alone 1x a day so far pretty good, however just been 6 months, so i have no idea how effective it will stay.