She is in my math class. Neither of us go to class often, but she wants me to take notes for her this coming Thursday and next Tuesday. I'll go to class on Tuesday and see if she is there. It is just hard thinking of stuff to say to her or invite her to do when I have an exam in my other class on Friday that I have to learn 3 chapters for for the first time. The fact is, if I was confident in my appearance, I would not need to think of an activity. I'd just try to kiss her in the hallway and not beat around the bush. My confidence in my looks is climbing a bit, but I'd kind of like to just wait until she comes back after next Tuesday and make my moves then. She will be gone for almost a week to do job interviews. She came to class with a hickie on her neck once, so she is active.
how long does it take grafts to start growing out?
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bad idea
Yeah, if she is only marginally attracted to me, she might not like that. Women have urges, but they don't want to do them on just ANY guy, like me. I know guys who just kiss women to find out if the women like them, and they don't have any trouble. It seems like a bad idea to make a move because many times there is rejection. But if you don't, you can spend months wondering about a woman and eventually find out she was never interested, when you could have found that out in the beginning.
One thing for sure is that until you get physical with a woman, you better be dating other women. It is insane to go around with a relationship in your head that she has no clue exists.
One thing for sure is that until you get physical with a woman, you better be dating other women. It is insane to go around with a relationship in your head that she has no clue exists.
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CCS...don't make a cheesy pass at her. most girls don't dig on that. they would rather have a nice guy ask them out and treat them good. [they even like it when a guy opens the car door for them!] it helps to score points and eventually she'll let you know when you can make a move. just ask her to go see a funny movie with you. all chicks love to laugh and have fun. and if it don't work out, then maybe you'll make a new friend who will most likely have a single friend or two. good luck dude, just ask her out. if she says "NO", oh well, move on to the next one.
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Chicks don't lke aggressive attempts at a kiss before they are ready. Don't do that. Take her out a few times. You'll get a feeling if she likes you or not. After about 3 dates if you are both having fun try a light kiss to say goodbye. If she doesn't like it, she probably considers you a friend instead of a date.
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CCS,
If this lady liked you initially, it was probably because she saw you just being yourself, low keyed. So don't change anything or you might turn her off. Women can be like bluegills. They always look at the bait, but don't always take it and they frighten easily. Nature always has it's way of working its course. If it's meant to be, you'll both know it and want the same thing. Chill.
If this lady liked you initially, it was probably because she saw you just being yourself, low keyed. So don't change anything or you might turn her off. Women can be like bluegills. They always look at the bait, but don't always take it and they frighten easily. Nature always has it's way of working its course. If it's meant to be, you'll both know it and want the same thing. Chill.
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I thought this whole thread was supposed to be about grafts growing. :lol:
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Alittle friendly diversion never hurts!
Maybe if CCS hooks up his body will produce less negative hormones and his grafts will shoot out like wildfire! There is some truth to being in a positive state of mind and body. :wink:
Maybe if CCS hooks up his body will produce less negative hormones and his grafts will shoot out like wildfire! There is some truth to being in a positive state of mind and body. :wink:
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LG,
You know I have observed maybe a few dozen cases where transplants did not grow related to the patient being in a long term stressful stage.
There was one guy in particular that I remember who was in the middle of a nasty divorce, lost his job "after" he had his hair transplant done, and then was also losing his home. Four months went by and no growth at all. Six months, still not one hair coming through. It is extremely unusual for this to happen "unless" there are outside contributing factors like stress.
Untreated or unmanaged stress can force hair follicules into telogen and is made evidence in an areata alopecia pattern of loss. My own brother had this and thought he needed a hair transplant but I told him once the stress level comes down and managed, it will grow back. It eventually did.
But when it involves hair follicules going into telogen as a result of the hair transplant procedure (scalp trauma), sometimes they remain in telogen for longer periods because the added stress is holding them back from resuming their normal cyclical behavior. Anyway, the reasons I remembered this patient was because he was SO ANGRY his transplant did not grow in. And who would not be mad? The other reason is his hair eventually grew in once he got settled in his new condo and "also" was seeing someone new. I received a few pics from him at 15 months post-op and he looks great. Have not heard from him since. Know why? He is on with his new life! :hairy:
You know I have observed maybe a few dozen cases where transplants did not grow related to the patient being in a long term stressful stage.
There was one guy in particular that I remember who was in the middle of a nasty divorce, lost his job "after" he had his hair transplant done, and then was also losing his home. Four months went by and no growth at all. Six months, still not one hair coming through. It is extremely unusual for this to happen "unless" there are outside contributing factors like stress.
Untreated or unmanaged stress can force hair follicules into telogen and is made evidence in an areata alopecia pattern of loss. My own brother had this and thought he needed a hair transplant but I told him once the stress level comes down and managed, it will grow back. It eventually did.
But when it involves hair follicules going into telogen as a result of the hair transplant procedure (scalp trauma), sometimes they remain in telogen for longer periods because the added stress is holding them back from resuming their normal cyclical behavior. Anyway, the reasons I remembered this patient was because he was SO ANGRY his transplant did not grow in. And who would not be mad? The other reason is his hair eventually grew in once he got settled in his new condo and "also" was seeing someone new. I received a few pics from him at 15 months post-op and he looks great. Have not heard from him since. Know why? He is on with his new life! :hairy:
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CCS,
Are your grafts growing out yet? I'm 4 months and 3 days and very little results as of yet.
Gillenator,
should me and college have a lot of sprouts by now of what?
Are your grafts growing out yet? I'm 4 months and 3 days and very little results as of yet.
Gillenator,
should me and college have a lot of sprouts by now of what?
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Did you talk to Dr. Keene about this? Have you heard anything like this from other hair transplant patients? It's nice to hear (for my peace of mind) you are experiencing such slow growth of your transplants as well.
I emailed her, and she told me to schedule and appointment so she could look at them. I did not yet because of my exams, but I will soon. She said while she finds it odd they have not grown out yet, she can think of no reason why they would not have yet, and says if she looks at them, she may be able to figure out the reason why they have not grown out. I have no idea how should could tell that, but I'll go in probably late next week or the week after, depending on appointment times. Right now I have a lot more exams coming up.
Truth is you could still be seeing growth up to 18 months after a procedure. 3-4 months is avg to start seeing growth, but if you had hair transplanted into areas that were already transplanted into before, then there is scar tissue that you cannot see under the surface which can affect the growth of the new transplants. . I don't remember exactly, but haven't you had three hair transplants already? One by Bosley and two w/ Dr Keene, right? that's a lot of trauma to the scalp, and if you did the procedures close together then the trauma could be affecting the growth. It is way too early to say anything though. You need to give it at least a year before you make any real determination.
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Here is a cool progress report of a hair transplant patient. It says at the month 4 photo it's normal for it to take 3 to 5 months before you start seeing the transplanted hairs growing. And that from 4 to 7 months you will see new hairs growing.
So I think it's too early to start panicking.
http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/Ha ... postop.asp
P.S. CCS, it seems like a waste of money to me for you to go see your doctor. Like, what can she do now? Like you said, I wonder how she could figure out what the problem is (if there is any.)
So I think it's too early to start panicking.
http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/Ha ... postop.asp
P.S. CCS, it seems like a waste of money to me for you to go see your doctor. Like, what can she do now? Like you said, I wonder how she could figure out what the problem is (if there is any.)
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And on Armani's website it says 3-6 months.
Yeah, I think you guys are right. Thanks for the info.
I don't want to waste her time. It is free for me, but I don't think she can know anything from looking. I think since I had my procedures 7 months apart, there is probably just enough shock that they are taking longer than usual. And 3-5 months is a reassuring figure since I'm at 4.5 and do have 50 hairs growing.
When I had 13 fu/cm2 with bosley, 1/3 of them did not go into telogen at all, but just started growing out from day one. Then with Dr keene 3 years later, they took 2.5 - 5 months to come out. Then 7 months later, when she went in between old grafts, that is when it is taking 4.5+. So as long as they grow out eventually I'll be happy. I just wish they grew out sooner.
One nice thing about them taking so long is I know that even if I had a lot of money, it would not make a difference, since the technology is the time factor now. I guess I'm doing as good as I can do.
But here is some good news: I'm lifting more than I ever lifted in my life. My bench press recently climbed to 135lbs x 13 reps, from 6-7 reps about a month ago.
I don't want to waste her time. It is free for me, but I don't think she can know anything from looking. I think since I had my procedures 7 months apart, there is probably just enough shock that they are taking longer than usual. And 3-5 months is a reassuring figure since I'm at 4.5 and do have 50 hairs growing.
When I had 13 fu/cm2 with bosley, 1/3 of them did not go into telogen at all, but just started growing out from day one. Then with Dr keene 3 years later, they took 2.5 - 5 months to come out. Then 7 months later, when she went in between old grafts, that is when it is taking 4.5+. So as long as they grow out eventually I'll be happy. I just wish they grew out sooner.
One nice thing about them taking so long is I know that even if I had a lot of money, it would not make a difference, since the technology is the time factor now. I guess I'm doing as good as I can do.
But here is some good news: I'm lifting more than I ever lifted in my life. My bench press recently climbed to 135lbs x 13 reps, from 6-7 reps about a month ago.
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Follically Challenged said:
what a remarkable transformation for that david guy. man, the guy looks like a model now. now that was money well spent!
CCS...you should know better than anyone that you need to give it time and hair transplant's don't magicaly grow. they'll grow in so don't sweat it.
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i'm 2 1/2 months post op and have a lot of growth but i am seriously hopeing that there is more to come because it's very dense right now. but like you, i need to relax and give them time. so hang in there man.