How often do you get suicidal thoughts?

[uncomfortable man]

Pretty sure I made the choice to be bald when I shaved my head. According to OP, "We have already concluded that bald men are genetic trash and seen as non entities by women most of the time."
Those are the OP's thoughts. So if you support that statement, then you are basically talking for everyone here, and firmly believe any man who is bald or is losing his hair is trash. :applauds

You lost me at choice. I never got a choice, my hair dissapeared when I was 22. Socially obligated to shave my head every other day because that's what everyone says right, "just shave it off". You are a tourist here on this site on for hair loss in general. You are an imposter with that name MR.CHROME.... a name that should be designated for a real nw5 bald man with a shiny top, not you with your receeded hairline (give me a break).

And I personally don't believe I or anyone else who is bald instantly qualifies for "genetic trash", I am still a worthwile human being with feelings but you need to understand what it is like being a young bald man.... everywhere we go we are told we are inferior somehow or another, be it odd looks from random strangers, being avoided by women like the plauge, or the messages from TV, commercials and movies. It can become overwhelming for us how society treats the bald like a whipping boy. And like a young child who grew up being told they are worthless good for nothings, over time with repetition we begin to belive it, believe something is wrong with us. But of course you wouldn't understand any of this because you have the luxury of having enough hair to grant you a "healthy" perspective.

 

[Muzzle]

Unfortunately being bald is like losing an arm and there is nothing we can do about it.

But suicidal thoughts ? rarely(and thats propably because i have social phobia).

The pain must be really unbearable to get suicidal thoughts.

 

[bald29]

Suicidal thoughts are a really strange thing... you can think about it but if you really asked yourself you wouldn't actually think you're suicidal.
There is a difference between having suicidal tendencies and having suicidal thoughts. I think hair loss guys (the ones that have gone there) will mostly think of the notion from afar (mentally). That's how it's bearable.

It's weird but I'm sure most will agree.

Of course suicide for real is still unfortunately a reality for some hair loss guys but I really don't think it's that much. I'm sure there are a lot of other factors involved when someone takes the plunge for real.

Yeah but just like everything. Some people kill themselves because their girlfriends dumped them, but could that be the only reason? I think there has to be a combination of other factors as well.

 

[peter079]

I had a friend who committed suicide when he was 36 years old. He was a NW5 and never married. Lived by himself.
No one really understood why he did it. Not even his closest relatives. That was 10 years ago.

Since then, I started too loose my hair as well.
Now that I'm NW5, living by myself, I know exactly why he did it.

 

[2bald2young]

They always say that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. However some problems can be permanent so then suicide becomes a permanent solution to a permanent problem.

 

[Muzzle]

As a matter of fact there is no problem in losing hair.

The problem is losing hair at very young age. I wouldnt care if i lose my hair at 65 years old but if i start losing my hair at 18-19 years old, that feels like being buried alive

 

[Sabbah]

Listen to Iron Man, he is absolutely right. I'm not advanced just yet, I position myself at NWD 2 with considerably thinner hair at the top, and progressively balding temples probably getting ready for NWD 3 and I am fighting it make no mistake. The "letting go" thing for me it's just ridiculous because I will not just give up on something that is part of my personality and is relevant for my career. So don't fall into that bull****, nobody chooses to be bald it's just something taken from you.

I still don't think is a reason to kill yourself, I have lots of hobbies that make my life worthwhile. You see, to keep myself distracted I read comics, follow several shows, watch a lot of movies, play guitar (love music in general), I like drawing, I hit the gym once in a while (not much because when I sweat I'm reminded of my situation), smoke weed occasionally, I play video games and what not, there are very cool things out there.

I'm sure there are lots of trolls out there talking nonsense, but I also know some dudes are getting serious about killing themselves. There's nothing good about balding, but you have to man the **** up and deal with it and hopefully grow physically and mentally as you go.

 

[2bald2young]

Listen to Iron Man, he is absolutely right. I'm not advanced just yet, I position myself at NWD 2 with considerably thinner hair at the top, and progressively balding temples probably getting ready for NWD 3 and I am fighting it make no mistake. The "letting go" thing for me it's just ridiculous because I will not just give up on something that is part of my personality and is relevant for my career. So don't fall into that bull****, nobody chooses to be bald it's just something taken from you.

I still don't think is a reason to kill yourself, I have lots of hobbies that make my life worthwhile. You see, to keep myself distracted I read comics, follow several shows, watch a lot of movies, play guitar (love music in general), I like drawing, I hit the gym once in a while (not much because when I sweat I'm reminded of my situation), smoke weed occasionally, I play video games and what not, there are very cool things out there.

I'm sure there are lots of trolls out there talking nonsense, but I also know some dudes are getting serious about killing themselves. There's nothing good about balding, but you have to man the **** up and deal with it and hopefully grow physically and mentally as you go.

Ow look where did I heard that again?

 

[bald29]

I have lots of hobbies that make my life worthwhile. You see, to keep myself distracted I read comics, follow several shows, watch a lot of movies, play guitar (love music in general), I like drawing, I hit the gym once in a while (not much because when I sweat I'm reminded of my situation), smoke weed occasionally, I play video games and what not, there are very cool things out there.

Those are all very cool things to do, but notice how there is no reference to girls or dating on your list.

I don't advocate suicide, but can the life of a young adult be worthwhile when he is unable to attract decent girls? I don't think so. I don't think my life right now is worthwhile, even though I also have a lot of hobbies, I have a career, etc., but everything just feels lame and empty at the end of the day.

Again, suicide is not an option, and I also agree with all this 'be happy with yourself' movement, but being happy with yourself does get old after some time. The ability to attract people from the opposite sex is one of the most important things when we are young, and relationships are a vital component of health and wellbeing.

Can you be happy with just yourself? Sure, you can, but it's not the same...

 

[2bald2young]

Those are all very cool things to do, but notice how there is no reference to girls or dating on your list.

I don't advocate suicide, but can the life of a young adult be worthwhile when he is unable to attract decent girls? I don't think so. I don't think my life right now is worthwhile, even though I also have a lot of hobbies, I have a career, etc., but everything just feels lame and empty at the end of the day.

Again, suicide is not an option, and I also agree with all this 'be happy with yourself' movement, but being happy with yourself does get old after some time. The ability to attract people from the opposite sex is one of the most important things when we are young, and relationships are a vital component of health and wellbeing.

Can you be happy with just yourself? Sure, you can, but it's not the same...

Just out of curiosity, why are you against suicide?

 

[bald29]

Just out of curiosity, why are you against suicide?

Because I'm gonna die anyways some day, so I might as well try to get the most of this life. I also have hopes of my situation changing --good response to meds, cure appearing, etc--.

 

[2bald2young]

Because I'm gonna die anyways some day, so I might as well try to get the most of this life. I also have hopes of my situation changing --good response to meds, cure appearing, etc--.

That is something I never heard before.

 

[bald29]

That is something I never heard before.

You never heard we all die some day?

 

[resu]

Being single at 30 is probably the worse period and situation for anyone (socially speaking). I see guys that never got married or have kids and they all have this empty dead look, walking aimless in life. Since I was young I paid attention to everyone, tried to take notes and see patterns. I've always tried to not end up like those guys but now with hair loss it seems like my destiny is already written.

 

[2bald2young]

You never heard we all die some day?

Wait what? We humans can die?! That explains a lot ! But to get to the serious part, I think you are lucky with a couple off things:


- You are a good responder (thanks god).

- You used to have a good life.
- Your only big problem is hair loss, if there would be a cure all would immediately be great for you again.

Still, it's a shame that society is so negative to the people who committed suicide, that is because happiness is measured in pains and gains or bad vs good things in your life. To explain this process short: If someone has too many things he don't like in his life (too many pains or bad things) and that goes on for a long period of time the brain starts to search for "ways out" however if there doesn't seem a way out the brain things that committed suicide will solve all the problems (remember people who commit suicide don't want to die but want to get rid of the pain). Of course for a mental healthy person this is just plain stupid and to be honest it is a dumb way of thinking. The problem is that depression is an illness, causing your brain to not think "healthy" anymore. When the person is going to die depends on 3 things: How big are the pains, the time the pains are in the life and the mental strength. Either way suicide is not an good option I admit that but a depressed person doesn't think like that.

 

[bald29]

Being single at 30 is probably the worse period and situation for anyone (socially speaking). I see guys that never got married or have kids and they all have this empty dead look, walking aimless in life. Since I was young I paid attention to everyone, tried to take notes and see patterns. I've always tried to not end up like those guys but now with hair loss it seems like my destiny is already written.

Yeah... Although I see a lot of married people with kids who are completely miserable. I'm not sure if I want to be married and have kids, but a girlfriend would be nice, or at least being able to have a few drinks now and then with a decent girl.

It's funny how in a website where girls barely responded to my messages, I changed my picture to one with hair from three years ago, and all girls answer me now. Last week I sent 4 messages (to pretty girls) and all responded, all in less than 2 days, showing interest.

I also have a lot of hot girls in my phone who think I have hair, and I can't see them because I know how they feel about baldness. It's remarkable how the same person with hair can get more than decent interest from women, but that same person without hair is seen as a total loser. And when all girls see you as a total loser, you just become one, a lonely guy who can't get laid with anything remotely attractive.

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Wait what? We humans can die?! That explains a lot ! But to get to the serious part, I think you are lucky with a couple off things:


- You are a good responder (thanks god).

- You used to have a good life.
- Your only big problem is hair loss, if there would be a cure all would immediately be great for you again.

Still, it's a shame that society is so negative to the people who committed suicide, that is because happiness is measured in pains and gains or bad vs good things in your life. To explain this process short: If someone has too many things he don't like in his life (too many pains or bad things) and that goes on for a long period of time the brain starts to search for "ways out" however if there doesn't seem a way out the brain things that committed suicide will solve all the problems (remember people who commit suicide don't want to die but want to get rid of the pain). Of course for a mental healthy person this is just plain stupid and to be honest it is a dumb way of thinking. The problem is that depression is an illness, causing your brain to not think "healthy" anymore. When the person is going to die depends on 3 things: How big are the pains, the time the pains are in the life and the mental strength. Either way suicide is not an good option I admit that but a depressed person doesn't think like that.

Well, suicide never solves anything... It just transfers the problems to those around. Also, most problems become lame after a few years. Hairloss is a big deal now, but it won't be when you're 50, so even playing videogames and saving money until you're 50 is better than committing suicide.

The brother of a friend killed himself many years ago because his girlfriend had dumped him. At that moment for him it seemed that he couldn't live without her, but looking at that in retrospective it was a stupid decision. He left all his family in total pain, and he also missed too many things, as he was in his early 20s when he did it. After a couple years he would have recovered from his failed relationship, and could have enjoyed his life; in fact I can picture him coming to my house (where all meetings take place), sharing a few drinks while talking about life. But yeah, none of that is possible now.

 

[resu]

Yeah... Although I see a lot of married people with kids who are completely miserable. I'm not sure if I want to be married and have kids, but a girlfriend would be nice, or at least being able to have a few drinks now and then with a decent girl.

It's funny how in a website where girls barely responded to my messages, I changed my picture to one with hair from three years ago, and all girls answer me now. Last week I sent 4 messages (to pretty girls) and all responded, all in less than 2 days, showing interest.

I also have a lot of hot girls in my phone who think I have hair, and I can't see them because I know how they feel about baldness. It's remarkable how the same person with hair can get more than decent interest from women, but that same person without hair is seen as a total loser. And when all girls see you as a total loser, you just become one, a lonely guy who can't get laid with anything remotely attractive.

In real life is the same, I went from being a cute looking kid to ugly, then decent enough, got lucky and started to look really good in my mid 20's then hair loss came and all went to hell. I know about all rejection and I know how people will gravitate towards you if they catch something that they like about your looks, subconsciously or not. This is specially true with women, just think how hard it gets to find a date the older you get then if they don't like you from the get go because they completely lose interest and you'll never get a chance. I see average looking NW1 guys with women that are totally unattractive from a personality and looks point of view. I mean if even they can't get much better how will young balding guys?

Women are free to choose whoever they find attractive, if they don't like the appearance of the majority of balding men then it's their choice.

Those miserable guys with kids, I don't know, some eventually break up and end up with another women with kids and end up happy but yes being alone would better than being with the wrong type of person.

 

[2bald2young]

Well, suicide never solves anything... It just transfers the problems to those around. Also, most problems become lame after a few years. Hairloss is a big deal now, but it won't be when you're 50, so even playing videogames and saving money until you're 50 is better than committing suicide.

The brother of a friend killed himself many years ago because his girlfriend had dumped him. At that moment for him it seemed that he couldn't live without her, but looking at that in retrospective it was a stupid decision. He left all his family in total pain, and he also missed too many things, as he was in his early 20s when he did it. After a couple years he would have recovered from his failed relationship, and could have enjoyed his life; in fact I can picture him coming to my house (where all meetings take place), sharing a few drinks while talking about life. But yeah, none of that is possible now.

I understand what you mean but my point is very simple: A depressed person doesn't think like that. Your friend for example wouldn't think like you described, he was in another state. sigh I am so bad in explaining things XD.

 

[bald29]

I understand what you mean but my point is very simple: A depressed person doesn't think like that. Your friend for example wouldn't think like you described, he was in another state. sigh I am so bad in explaining things XD.

I understand what you mean. He was in another state, but he was wrong. That state was just temporal, he just needed to address that specific issue. Suicide didn't solve his problem, it just transferred it to his family members and friends.

 

[I.D WALKER]

Not every girl will love and desire us unconditionally. In the best of times and circumstances, and in the worst. In fact most will not. The problem today, it would seem that this troubling situation has grown decidedly worse. I presume this is far less a symptom of our hair loss condition/disease, but instead more of the tell tale symptom and sign of modern society's full blown compulsive/obsessive disease with physical beauty and youth. Like hair loss "this social pandemic" has no cure. In fact it's reasonable to say that this illness is here to stay, simply because it's "carriers" deceptively exhibit zero physical symptoms and their mortality rate is excellent. Obviously for those who suffer and/are consequently affected (ie; M.P.B. patients) by this pervasive social outbreak (and there are many), diagnosis prognosis/treatment options are poor. Hair loss suffering is another strong body of evidence that supports this hypothesis. So should the time arrive when we find (or visa versa) the "special girl" that overlooks our hair loss and sees and accepts us solely and wholly with ALL our "suppose faults and blemishes", that girl may seem quite a miracle to behold. In truth, albeit personality-wise she may be a statistical anomaly, her overall healthy constitution and psychological status is not so much a miracle of the preternatural brand, but one that can easily be explained in simple medical terms : What makes this individual so unique is most likely because she is presently resistant/ immune to the societal infection. Therefore if we can blindly trust and acknowledge the most fundamental laws of aeronautics we may just as ably understand that the miracle of two healthy and loving individual today will no longer fly on the increasingly heavy wings of beauty or youth. Today's divorce rates are mounting due in great part to increasingly dubious technical practices(ie; beauty before "moral character') as well as imposing time line constraints( ie; youth before intelligence )predictably resulting in (w)reckless short cuts. Should the mounting internal pressure of the material world not yet force us to combust, then eventually indiscriminate gravity is sworn to crash us down. Now returning to the original context of this thread and the question how can love fit comfortably into the live's of we bald men? May be this tips will help. Be selective just don't be unkind when you judge a girl who happens to catch your eye. As a vital preventative measure (for those of us already "infected/affected") always practice extra precautions if and whenever you're in contact with her for prolonged periods. After all not only is she is a medical marvel, she is the personification of soul love or what the Greeks once called agape . Therefore when you meet a girl who says she likes your smile best, consider it a pretty promising place to start. For that one "there" is a very special one and deserves to be treated with the utmost care. :sun::sun: