I don't think a women can love you for you unless you're good looking?

[Oknow]

Man, I feel that this is my main problem these days, but it doesn't make sense that they can always feel the vibe. A woman can approach me with the biggest interest, wanting to "get to know me", but within a few sentences from me it's like I turned the damn world upside down and that feeling plummets farther and farther down the more I say. I mean yeah I'd like some lasting companionship but I think deep down I just don't care anymore and they SENSE that

Always found that it’s genuinely when you don’t care they become interested

Women are weird to be honest

Many are very sensitive to vibe etc and emotionally driven

 

[Oknow]

aint that commojn sense

the difference is you don’t try, just dwell in self-pitty

 

[Feelsbadman]

the difference is you don’t try, just dwell in self-pitty

I do try, but you don't really seem to understand for a smart guy you seem to have your head buried in the sand.
For me to have any chance in women I need to put in a TONNE of effort. A tonne , a lot of time and energy, and the best result I can get is an average looking women with bad traits.

 

[Derelict]

I do try, but you don't really seem to understand for a smart guy you seem to have your head buried in the sand.
For me to have any chance in women I need to put in a TONNE of effort. A tonne , a lot of time and energy, and the best result I can get is an average looking women with bad traits.

What is wrong with an average looking woman? im being serious, still attractive so what is the problem? Bad traits i can understand though.

 

[Oknow]

I do try, but you don't really seem to understand for a smart guy you seem to have your head buried in the sand.
For me to have any chance in women I need to put in a TONNE of effort. A tonne , a lot of time and energy, and the best result I can get is an average looking women with bad traits.

Mate, what you are experiencing is complete normal

Out of 10 matches, very few lead (less than 3) to dates and fewer lead to sex on average for me.

The problem is where many women are looking for both mental and physical connection, and will be cut throat about it. If they sense your vibe is not in line with them, you will be ghosted.

I often get women matching and messaging me first, like this morning but their personality is usually sh*t, leaving short closed replies , sometimes I wonder why they even bother

But that’s my point, the problem probably isn’t all you. Just keep trying until you meet a woman worth investing time in.

I would also update your profile so that you weed out time wasters, updated pictures and being more direct with what you are looking for

 

[Oknow]

What is wrong with an average looking woman? im being serious, still attractive so what is the problem? Bad traits i can understand though.

Lots of guys end up with average women, in hindsight my ex who I met from online dating was very average

 

[justinbieberscombover]

imagine thinking classy girls dont do that lmao

This is not very convincing. My real life experience absolutely does not match your blackpill ideas. Period.

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Agreed, the hottest women I knew were actually the ones with the best personality, I assume because they're not as frustrated as their ugly peers.

I've met some model girls with a shitty personality (they act nice but deep down they are rooted by narcissism and think very highly of themselves - which is perhaps justified, but they ended up acting in manipulative ways - humility is important as well)

The girl I dated before my girl was OK looking, she said she wants a "gentleman" who will prove her that he's worth it.. yet no matter how much I did for her it was never enough, she never showed appreciation or gave me any compliments.. I saw it as an insecurity tbh. She got mad and started arguing when I told her that I'm moving on lol, pathetic

 

[Feelsbadman]

What is wrong with an average looking woman? im being serious, still attractive so what is the problem? Bad traits i can understand though.

i should say a girl im not physically attracted to and i have low standards as well

 

[Feelsbadman]

This is not very convincing. My real life experience absolutely does not match your blackpill ideas. Period.

well my real life experience is different to yours. period.

 

[justinbieberscombover]

I think "good personality" and and attractiveness aren't strongly related variables at all. Also, "good personality" is much more subjective than attractiveness, so opinions will differ more.

To me good personality means not toxic.. mature, empathic, kind, supportive and so on

 

[justinbieberscombover]

well my real life experience is different to yours. period.

Feels Bad Man

Seriously though looks do matter but it's not "supermodel or nothing"

I know some short guys who do well with chicks but they aren't ugly

If you look like The fking Hunchback of Notre-Dame then yeah it's gonna be harder to get a girl

 

[Oknow]

I've met some model girls with a shitty personality (they act nice but deep down they are rooted by narcissism and think very highly of themselves - which is perhaps justified, but they ended up acting in manipulative ways - humility is important as well)

The girl I dated before my girl was OK looking, she said she wants a "gentleman" who will prove her that he's worth it.. yet no matter how much I did for her it was never enough, she never showed appreciation or gave me any compliments.. I saw it as an insecurity tbh. She got mad and started arguing when I told her that I'm moving on lol, pathetic

i find it’s random

some of the worse dates I’ve had are with unattractive women

remember one ages ago, 5/10, hooked crooked nose rejecting me harshly flat out

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Like yeah if this guy goes on a PUA session in the city he isn't gonna walk out with a phone full of new contacts

But hey at least he's NW0, blue eyes too right?

 

[BurningCoals]

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Like yeah if this guy goes on a PUA session in the city he isn't gonna walk out with a phone full of new contacts

But hey at least he's NW0

In the book he starves himself to death while lying besides her corpse

 

[justinbieberscombover]

In the book he starves himself to death while lying besides her corpse

Poor guy. He must have read Feelsbadman's thread about achieving low body fat % through starvation for optimal facial aesthetics

 

[Feelsbadman]

i think i just have a really fucked up view because
- went from.ugly no attention to chad then to ugly
- only relationship was with a mentslly sick ghetto trash
- only dating experiemce low value dating app women
- watcj black pill vidoea dialy

 

[Oknow]

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Like yeah if this guy goes on a PUA session in the city he isn't gonna walk out with a phone full of new contacts

But hey at least he's NW0, blue eyes too right?

the hunchback of Notre dame is an extreme example

most people do not look like him and are average

by hearing some of the crap on here, you would think these dudes are the elephant man looks wise - bet they are just average guys down on their luck

 

[justinbieberscombover]

More important factors is upbringing imo. Looks is only a small part of the good personality equation

Yeah but even with problems in your formative years you can change yourself later in life with a good therapist

I know because I did it

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Google says formative years are 0-8 years old

Those were actually good years for me

But in my teens from like the age of 13 up until I was in my mid-late 20's I had a lot of problems