I really, really need advice on my hairloss. This is putting

[AlexD]

me down MASSIVELY.

I had been taking 1/4th a pill of 5mg Finasteride and 2ml of Rogaine (5% minoxidil) for about half a year, and it worked great. Then I started experiencing massive shedding, and my doctor bumped me up to 1/3rd of a pill a day.

Now the thing is, after a little over a year, I am losing all my hair again. Literally, EVERY time I run my hand through the top of my head I am finding 4-5 hairs in it. Then when I run it through the sides nothing falls out. I am on 1/3rd a pill of 5mg Finasteride nightly and Rogaine, and am suddenly seeing massive regression in all the hair I gained. What could be causing this? It is causing me a great deal of distress

This started in November, and has only gotten worse. What could be the cause?

 

[Ouroboros]

On an optimistic note it could be seasonal; hair tends to shed a bit around Sept-Jan.

 

[avi21]

are you buying finastride from the web? maybe it's fake?

add nizoral shampoo two times a week and let it rinse for 15 minutes.
one more thing you can do is blood test, maybe you need some vitamins?

 

[AlexD]

are you buying finastride from the web? maybe it's fake?

add nizoral shampoo two times a week and let it rinse for 15 minutes.
one more thing you can do is blood test, maybe you need some vitamins?

I got the finasteride from CVS, I'm worried it may have gone bad due to humidity (it was in the bottle in a humid room for like a week while I was in South America). I am going to refill the prescription soon.

Nizoral is kind of... I don't know. Finasteride and Rogaine are already rough enough to deal with every single day, adding more to the regimen might just be pushing it for my tolerance (I won't be saying this if I keep losing more hair - I will try it if necessary, haha, it's just that, despite early treatment being the best treatment, I don't want to add that just yet).

Vitamins maybe. I take a daily vitamin but that might not be enough.

Thanks for the posts thus far guys. I'm really hoping it's just a shed, and since all the hair started growing again that's what I'm losing, and that it'll come back. The one thing that makes me *not* as worried as before is the hair has those white bulbs on the end, and the ends are generally decently thick, whereas when I started losing hair the first time the hairs didn't have the bulbs and were relatively thin.

 

[AlexD]

Bump :spam:

 

[AlexD]

Bump again

 

[follicle84]

I hate to tell you this but your hairloss might have stepped up a gear either that or your body has developed tollerance to the drugs. You should know however minoxidil stops producing results after a year and hair grown by minoxidil can't be sustained using finasteride, as they both aid hair in different ways.

You may very well just be losing hair grown/sustained by minoxidil meaning your hair sustained by finestride will still be there but not hair through minoxidil. If that is the case your hair loss should slow down and maybe even stop and if it doesnt you may need a more powerfull hair loss treatment.

 

[heynow1234]

alot of ppl dont see the best results on propecia until the end of year 2 so try to hang in there :hump:

 

[AlexD]

In regards to tolerance or increased hairloss: I've only been on finasteride for a year, and I've only been on Rogaine for a year. I've heard of Rogaine lasting much longer. Also, unless I'm hallucinating, I am seeing a ton of little hairs growing back (very thin) at the temples. I hope I'm right regarding that, but I don't know.

What other treatments are there? Dutasteride seems a bit risky since the long term effects are unknown, and that's the end of drugs proven to combat hairloss...

And I will stick it out, no point in stopping my regimen until it's entirely useless, haha.

 

[follicle84]

Apart from dutasteride there is spironolactone, flutamide and that experimental drug RU58841, which is thought to be the most powerfull anti androgen ever made. Its used topically.

 

[AlexD]

All the results on that experimental drug make me think of all those "future science!" things that never come up. Disappointing :\

 

[Hoppi]

All the results on that experimental drug make me think of all those "future science!" things that never come up. Disappointing :\

hehe well Finasteride was "future science" once too! lol

I know this must be hard for you possibly even harder than me because of course it's a little bit further down a track of things becoming difficult.

I want to say though, and I know I get bashed for this, but have you considered looking at diet and lifestyle? Obviously as WELL as specific treatments, but man what I do is when people have success i COPY them! hehe

As a complementary factor to an oral treatment (beta-Sitosterol, finasteride, Dutasteride etc) and a topical treatment (Ketaconazole (Nizoral), Minoxidil), give a better diet and lifestyle a bash! Correct your whole body's hormone balance, and maybe you'll join the numbers of people on here who have effectively combated it with a more holistic solution

Hoppi!

 

[AlexD]

I'm not sure what I could change in my diet. I exercise 6 or 7 days a week, depending, and I eat generally healthy. Once a week I have a junk food cheat meal, and that's it. What would cause hair loss from the diet level? (Just curious, to avoid it if possible).

Thanks for the advice though and while it is true that finasteride was one of those future drugs, it was still already available to treat another ailment, which I don't think this drug does. lol

 

[Hoppi]

I'm not sure what I could change in my diet. I exercise 6 or 7 days a week, depending, and I eat generally healthy. Once a week I have a junk food cheat meal, and that's it. What would cause hair loss from the diet level? (Just curious, to avoid it if possible).

Thanks for the advice though and while it is true that finasteride was one of those future drugs, it was still already available to treat another ailment, which I don't think this drug does. lol

ah well fair enough. I mean the correlation I found was things like carbohydrate and sugar seem to be bad as they raise your insulin levels. I've been trying to balance out my diet a bit.

Also, I've started taking a multivitamin tablet and Omega 3 daily, as this increases bloodflow and nutrients to the follicles.

None of these things are SOLUTIONS as such, but they help to reinforce other solutions, I believe

As for actual drugs and cures, I am starting to sway towards Ketaconazole (Nizoral shampoo 2%) and either Finasteride or beta-sitosterol. I'm not sure which of the last 2 I favour!

 

[AlexD]

I am on 5/3rd grams of finasteride a day, and 2ml of Rogaine. I don't want to use Nizoral because of the effects on hair, in that it doesn't make it look very good <.<

I am also taking a multi vitamin and omega 3, haha

 

[Nickyarf]

-Definitely add nizoral 2% everyother day 5-10min on the scalp. This is not a joke. male pattern baldness is a syndrom and you need to take care of EACH symptoms to fight it. The oil full of DHT will be gone and your minoxidil will be able to enter the skin easily.

The bad look is bullshit: Since I have my hair back , women told me I have beautiful hairs (I dont put something else than nizoral on my hairs).
My hairs are the SAME (without dandruffs, oily scalp and dead hairs, baah disgusting....)
Did you try?

-Crush 3-4 finasteride (5mg) on you monthly minoxidil bottle.

-If you are fighting male pattern baldness on the temples then use retinA everyother day on them.

 

[AlexD]

Thanks for the advice Nickyarf. I will try Nizoral on a day I don't plan on going out. Can you wash your hair with regular shampoo after the Nizoral? (Or add Nano shampoo to the regimen as well?)

Also regarding crushed finasteride in a bottle of minoxidil - Is that truly effective? And how much should I crush it?

Finally, what is retinA?

 

[AlexD]

So do any shampoos give a thickening effect while not causing sheds?

 

[treeshrew]

it sounds very odd that you had great results for the first year, then started shedding massively. this is NOT the typical experience. you should hit the peak around year 1 and continue to maintain from then on.

i'm surprised you did well for a year, then started shedding. that sounds to me like the finasterie stopped working. are you sure you're taking genuine proscar, and splitting it correctly?

you might consider switching to genuine propecia (1mg tablet each day). i really think that is the only way to be sure you're dosing correctly.

also, i have never used nizoral and i am doing very well with propecia and minoxidil foam alone.