I Think The Supposed Side Effects From Finnasteride Are Mostly Nonsense

[brahmabull117]

all the research I see says that the percentage of people who report sexual side effects from finasteride are about the same percentage of general public non users who report sexual problems. A lot of it is nocebo too - you think it's gonna cause problems and that anxiety hurts your sexual performance. In reality, finasteride has very little effect on your sexual performance

What do you guys think about this? It's been proven that people taking finasteride without knowing what it is had less side effects- it's all in your head

 

[wc5269]

I created an account just to answer this. No, they're absolutely real. I took finasteride for 3 months, I had undeniable sexual side effects almost immediately. I had watery sperm, and I could not get hard without physical stimulation. I'm a mid 20 year old guy who before finasteride could randomly get hard from seeing a hot girl a 100 yards away. On finasteride I literally had to fiddle around my limp dick while watching p**rn to get hard. The sudden change was undeniable. I tried to deny it and I kept taking finasteride, but then at the three month mark I started having sensitive nipples and general soreness in my chest. That's when I quit, and when I did the nipple sensitivity and soreness went away within days. My libido hasn't fully recovered, but it's better and I can get hard again without touching my dick.

Believe me, I wish you were right. I wouldn't be lurking on a hair loss forum at 2am on a Tuesday praying that Brotzu lotion works if finasteride didn't have sides.

 

[Cue Bald]

it's wierd as finasteride actually increased my sex drive and desire by a small amount, and when i posted to this effect on youtube, all these "Post finasteride" guys swore at me and called me a merck shill - one even cloned my youtube account (using an upper case I instead of a lower l) and posted "I am a merck shill! ignore me!" now what normal person would do such a thing?

mate finasteride is weaksauce. i was on oral spironolactone and even took some oestrogen (forget which type) - now that is what you call "sides"

 

[ManinBlack]

Oh they are definitely real. However, they are thankfully rare about 2-5%, it just seems like everyone gets them because when you are on the internet you see a lot of posts from forums where the small population of guys who were unfortunate are posting about it whereas those whom finasteride is working for are probably not talking a lot about it. I think some people's endocrine system is just more sensitive to changes in DHT levels than other guys or something. I feel really sorry for guys who get side effects because finasteride is currently the only thing that treats the root cause of balding and if you have aggressive balding it is pretty much the only chance that you are going to be able to keep your hair.

 

[hemingway_the_mercenary]

all the research I see says that the percentage of people who report sexual side effects from finasteride are about the same percentage of general public non users who report sexual problems. A lot of it is nocebo too - you think it's gonna cause problems and that anxiety hurts your sexual performance. In reality, finasteride has very little effect on your sexual performance

What do you guys think about this? It's been proven that people taking finasteride without knowing what it is had less side effects- it's all in your head

Are you insane? Do you not understand how hormones work?

You are inhibiting the production of your bodies strongest androgen, how could you possibly think this would not have an effect on sex drive, erection quality etc.

The side effects are definitely not bs

 

[Bryant12]

all the research I see says that the percentage of people who report sexual side effects from finasteride are about the same percentage of general public non users who report sexual problems. A lot of it is nocebo too - you think it's gonna cause problems and that anxiety hurts your sexual performance. In reality, finasteride has very little effect on your sexual performance

What do you guys think about this? It's been proven that people taking finasteride without knowing what it is had less side effects- it's all in your head

Even if it didn’t give you sides sexually, you’re going to feel a difference in other ways for example i would get brain fog, memory declined, and working out wasn’t the same.... i would feel un energetic, weak, , over all.... the beast, alpha male inside of you goes downhill

 

[INT]

all the research I see says that the percentage of people who report sexual side effects from finasteride are about the same percentage of general public non users who report sexual problems. A lot of it is nocebo too - you think it's gonna cause problems and that anxiety hurts your sexual performance. In reality, finasteride has very little effect on your sexual performance

What do you guys think about this? It's been proven that people taking finasteride without knowing what it is had less side effects- it's all in your head

It proves that you did not look at all studies. Especially recently, there has been more and more scientific evidence that finasteride can f*** you up good, short-torm but also long term.

Seriously, how can things such as no more spontaneous erections even be just in your head?

Let me guess, you are about to start finasteride and you want to have some confirmation that everything will be ok? Or you have been on it for some time with success and also want a confirmation that everything will be ok?

 

[Unlucky93]

Didn't you make a post a couple of days ago asking about whether finasteride was having an adverse effect on your erections?

Lol how do you go from that to being dead certain that sides are a myth in the space of 2 days?

The sides are real. For me tiredness and facial bloating are the main ones. Sexual sides seem to be non-existent so far.

 

[TONSofBODYHAIR]

When you get drug induced ED and i dont mean just from finasteride you will reconsider this im sure

 

[bartoow]

Keep in mind that probably 99% of all people using finasteride are not posting on any websites. The amount of people having sides seems very high when only looking at these forums, but this doesn't give a realistic percentage at all.

Most people don't get sides, as research indicates sides can occur between 2-5% of the people talking finasteride experience sides. The reason why sexual side effects are not common is because DHT does not play a major role in sexual behaviour (influencing sex drive for example), but testosterone does. Read it yourself: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone --> information on this page comes from legit research papers).

I'm not saying that sides are fake or whatsoever, they exist and have to be taken seriously. But, sides are rare and most people won't have them.

 

[Japnicks India]

OP placebo is one thing but sides are for real. I still can wank day and night like i used to before but the firmness is reduced. I feel i am 80-85% hard than i used to, and need more stimulation to get a boner.
Also whether or not you believe me, .25Mg finasteride used to give me pain in my eyes! Later on i’ve found people had similar issues and when they quit finasteride their vision improved. “Magical, health eat”, na, their vision went from -3.5 to -2.5 thats 1 diopter!

Let me make it simpler for you, some car needs high octane fuel, some needs normal fuel & some even work on a sub standard fuel. Now take finasteride as a impurity! Every car’s efficiency will fall but to some extend, some may refuse to start and some may have their own cleaning better filters which will enable to run them for now. However in long run you’re bound to face some issues, no matter how much you deny.
You’re playing with the most potent hormone in your body and expect no reaction from it?
BS!

 

[INT]

Keep in mind that probably 99% of all people using finasteride are not posting on any websites. The amount of people having sides seems very high when only looking at these forums, but this doesn't give a realistic percentage at all.

This is what I hear a lot from people that are pro-finasteride. But this is no more than an assumption... This is also not something you can proof AT ALL.

Most people don't get sides, as research indicates sides can occur between 2-5% of the people talking finasteride experience sides. The reason why sexual side effects are not common is because DHT does not play a major role in sexual behaviour (influencing sex drive for example), but testosterone does. Read it yourself: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone --> information on this page comes from legit research papers).

It is not necesarrily the low DHT levels that seem to be the cause of the finasteride side effects. Let's not forgot finasteride does nto DIRECTLY lowers DHT. It lowers 5-alpha-reductase wich is responsible for the conversion of T to DHT but it has more functions besides that. It is for example very important for healthy NEUROsteroid levels which is something you do not want to mess with...

 

[bartoow]

This is what I hear a lot from people that are pro-finasteride. But this is no more than an assumption... This is also not something you can proof AT ALL.

You are right, this can't be proven indeed.

It is not necesarrily the low DHT levels that seem to be the cause of the finasteride side effects. Let's not forgot finasteride does nto DIRECTLY lowers DHT. It lowers 5-alpha-reductase wich is responsible for the conversion of T to DHT but it has more functions besides that. It is for example very important for healthy NEUROsteroid levels which is something you do not want to mess with...

True, I believe that finasteride is something to be taken serious and the long term effects (10+ or 20+ years of usage) are still unknown. Research should be done on long time users and see if they can correlate long term usage with neurological diseases, like Alzheimer. But its really hard to perform these kind of studies.

 

[AnxiousAndy]

all the research I see says that the percentage of people who report sexual side effects from finasteride are about the same percentage of general public non users who report sexual problems. A lot of it is nocebo too - you think it's gonna cause problems and that anxiety hurts your sexual performance. In reality, finasteride has very little effect on your sexual performance

What do you guys think about this? It's been proven that people taking finasteride without knowing what it is had less side effects- it's all in your head

finasteride can definitely cause noticeable sexual side effects in a small minority of users, these people are called " weak dickers " and like to rant about it a lot on propeciahelp. For most the sexual side effects will be none to minimal.
Cueball is right, I've been on those treatments too and that's when you start noticing the elusive sexual side effects like floppy penis, low libido and full blown errectile dysfunction. All reversible upon stopping. Nocebo is a thing and more people suffer from it than they care to admit. finasteride is 95%+ 'safe' and is even FDA approved. It should always be your first treatment option if you are serious about fixing your hair issues.

 

[INT]

finasteride can definitely cause noticeable sexual side effects in a small minority of users, these people are called " weak dickers "

Cannot wait for your next ban

 

[AnxiousAndy]

Cannot wait for your next ban

Me neither. I'm just saying how it is.

 

[INT]

Me neither. I'm just saying how it is.

No you are saying how you like it to be.

 

[AnxiousAndy]

No you are saying how you like it to be.

Do you think Merck faked their study? I'm only repeating what was in the study ( not the weak dickers comment, that was a joke ). Infact I'm actually giving a higher % of sexual sides than Merck reported. How is that in any way me saying how I like it to be? Fear mongering is what scares people away from trying treatments which could potentially make some people very happy and satisfied. I haven't denied the fact that some people do experience bad side effects, I simply said they happen but are very rare. What's your problem?

 

[INT]

Do you think Merck faked their study? I'm only repeating what was in the study ( not the weak dickers comment, that was a joke ). Infact I'm actually giving a higher % of sexual sides than Merck reported. How is that in any way me saying how I like it to be? Fear mongering is what scares people away from trying treatments which could potentially make some people very happy and satisfied. I haven't denied the fact that some people do experience bad side effects, I simply said they happen but are very rare. What's your problem?

I was obviously refering to your weak dick comment.

 

[AnxiousAndy]

I was obviously refering to your weak dick comment.

I can't get banned for saying that, isn't this forum supposed to be liberal? I'm not directly attacking anybody, nor would I.. It was a joke, get over it and move on.