I Want To Lower My Testosterone - Not A F*cking Joke!

[rclark]

WTH???


And for the record, Lacy appears to be about a hundred times more attractive than me.

She is attractive.

Try to stay focused and on topic! Your crazy posts ARE INAPPROPRIATE.

 

[rclark]

Wow, Jesus is mean!

Not TRUE!

Now, shut your mouth before I nail you to a cross!

 

[Ruby]

You have gone too far, my daughter... That is inappropriate, your
use of MIMES.

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Alcohol is a helluva drug.

 

[rclark]

Alcohol is a helluva drug.
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Stop this FOOLISHNESS. You must be yourself.

Stop being HOLIER THAN MYSELF. For I AM HOLIER THAN HOLY.

This message was approved by King of all Jews!

 

[Grasshüpfer]

I also approve ruby's idea about a low dose MtF regimen. There is a German user who did exactly that. He was also telling weird storys in the meantime, I really want buckthorn on estradiol.

I'm also starting e2 as soon as it arrives, to get my e2 up to normal, low levels.

 

[rclark]

I also approve ruby's idea about a low dose MtF regimen. There is a German user who did exactly that. He was also telling weird storys in the meantime, I really want buckthorn on estradiol.

I'm also starting e2 as soon as it arrives, to get my e2 up to normal, low levels.

So do I.

Buckthorn is JUST tortured by his manliness! It is hard for a man to be BOTH popular and
have MANY women like him.

It really bothers him inside! Really, it does... I should know.

In fact, it bothers him so much he makes a new thread about on a weekly basis..

 

[Grasshüpfer]

I would suggest you also get progesterone in addition to spironolactone and estradiol as its balancing out dht and estradiol.

But Lacey knows more than me.

Also we have almost no documentation here. Nice that we are finally talking business instead of fighting about the release date of a certain lotion.
I have nightly rock hard bonders back since taking finasteride, but I also stopped shedding, so let's see.

 

[buckthorn]

So do I.

Buckthorn is JUST tortured by his manliness! It is hard for a man to be BOTH popular and
have MANY women like him.

It really bothers him inside! Really, it does... I should know.

In fact, it bothers him so much he makes a new thread about on a weekly basis..

ok, will you stop hacking my threads Jesus. Having super high test from finasteride is not some f*****g blessing. I am not bragging. I haven't even been able to date a woman in years. I've made one thread in like the last two months. Get your facts straight or I will choke you with my finasteride c***.

 

[buckthorn]

I have nightly rock hard bonders back since taking finasteride, but I also stopped shedding, so let's see.

that's great! I hope it works for for. For myself, I associate the night time erections with losing more hair, oily skin, sleeplessness etc... they seem to go hand in hand and are obviously a result from hormone imbalance and high testosterone. I honestly want them to go away and want my hormones how they were.

 

[rclark]

ok, will you stop hacking my threads Jesus. Having super high test from finasteride is not some f*****g blessing. I am not bragging. I haven't even been able to date a woman in years. I've made one thread in like the last two months. Get your facts straight or I will choke you with my finasteride c***.

OK. You haven't had a women in what, one week...

Believe you.

Are you going to write a thread about how your genius IQ, and the struggles of being intelligent?

Excuse me, while I write a thread about the horrors of being a wonderful person, and struggling
with being God's son.

 

[Grasshüpfer]

that's great! I hope it works for for. For myself, I associate the night time erections with losing more hair, oily skin, sleeplessness etc... they seem to go hand in hand and are obviously a result from hormone imbalance and high testosterone. I honestly want them to go away and want my hormones how they were.

I have low e2 which leads to a lack of morning wood but to rock hard boners for hours. At the same time I never understood what people like about sex so much. I totally prefer making out. Clearly side effect of low e2.

It also leads to diffuse thinning even in my donor now. :/

I think stopping hairloss is mostly about eliminating dht without upsetting the rest of the system. Either E rises too high leading to the pfs castrates (which they clearly are, despite the fact that their hormone profile is normal, their receptors are fucked.)

Or the body counters with less E and more T and Ar.

Actually... With all the Testosterone forcefully flooding your fierce arteries, you should look Statham by now. Do you still have hair?

 

[Ruby]

Here's a paper that explains a lot about interactions within the endocrine system

https://inclusiveaesthetics.com/dow...nd Metabolic Processes Regulation v2.0.18.pdf

 

[Singularity2045]

You really have to be careful about deciding to take estrogen. It's pretty safe, and the harm is over exaggerated at normal doses... But mentally you need to be able to understand and accept what it might do.

You'll likely start accumulating fat in the chest area. You will probably get soreness, breast buds, and possibly some growth. If it isn't too much growth, you can probably hide it. You're gonna notice other differences like your skin getting soft, your male smell will go, and pheromones change.

And given enough time, blocking DHT and also Taking E, you might lower T production to the point where it has almost shut down and eventually affect your fertility. Some people can still have kids despite taking estrogen for years (when they go off E), but don't count on it.

You might end up pretty. And with a bit more hair.

 

[DHTpolice]

I also approve ruby's idea about a low dose MtF regimen. There is a German user who did exactly that. He was also telling weird storys in the meantime, I really want buckthorn on estradiol.

I'm also starting e2 as soon as it arrives, to get my e2 up to normal, low levels.

Hi, can you please give me the link on his story?

 

[WMQ]

I have exactly the same sides from finasteride.

Sadly, mine is even worse: for some days, I wake up in the middle of the night sweating all over with a rock hard erection and over the roof libido followed by extremely itchy painful scalp; for some days, I crash and feel like a depressed hypogonadal zombie.

The other day during my reflex-hyperandro peak I had one cup of soy milk and within a hour it sent me down with zero energy and pain all over my body, which means I successfully experienced both hyperandrogenicity and hypogonadism within one day.

I re-read the harvard pfs study the other day. And the result showing higher male hormones and lower 5AR products in brain kept me thinking. Maybe finasteride caused a permanent imbalance of 5AR and androgen signalling in neuro system vs. the rest of the body and that drives the body crazy by constantly trying to overcompensate.

I don't think taking chemical interventions will benefit you buckthorn. Think about it: isn't it just the same way as taking finasteride?

 

[MikeW]

I have exactly the same sides from finasteride.

Sadly, mine is even worse: for some days, I wake up in the middle of the night sweating all over with a rock hard erection and over the roof libido followed by extremely itchy painful scalp; for some days, I crash and feel like a depressed hypogonadal zombie.

The other day during my reflex-hyperandro peak I had one cup of soy milk and within a hour it sent me down with zero energy and pain all over my body, which means I successfully experienced both hyperandrogenicity and hypogonadism within one day.

I re-read the harvard pfs study the other day. And the result showing higher male hormones and lower 5AR products in brain kept me thinking. Maybe finasteride caused a permanent imbalance of 5AR and androgen signalling in neuro system vs. the rest of the body and that drives the body crazy by constantly trying to overcompensate.

I don't think taking chemical interventions will benefit you buckthorn. Think about it: isn't it just the same way as taking finasteride?

I'm trying to warn other people the damage this drug can do.

Nobody listens.

Calling me a fear mongerer.

 

[Grasshüpfer]

I don't think taking chemical interventions will benefit you buckthorn. Think about it: isn't it just the same way as taking finasteride?

I don't think so. His body can't escape a MtF regimen. Enough E and spironolactone will shrink his balls over time. There is no compensating that.
And once he is on a better androgen level he should be able to keep the level with prog and estrogen.

Well maybe... I'm no doctor and my knowledge is hearsay.

 

[Ruby]

Relax man.

He won't take it. If he does, he'll use it two days, get some bad side effect, and quit.

Buckthorn,

Please don't take it. But if you do, let me make out with you when the man boobs
start kicking in!

Thanks.

As long as he keeps his estradiol and testosterone levels in male ranges he won't experience significant feminization effects. That's why it will be so important to get frequent blood tests and monitor and adjust hormone levels very carefully. Buck is definitely a cisgender man, but he suffers from an exceptionally sensitive HPG axis that's reacting very badly to attempts to alter. His hairloss dysphoria is much worse than even my own gender dysphoria, and everyone here doesn't need to be reminded how powerfully important one's own self-esteem matters or else we wouldn't be here discussing this topic.

 

[Ruby]

Please don't take it. But if you do, let me make out with you when the man boobs
start kicking in!

Thanks.

I've already got A cups on only 4 months of hormones....

But first, how much money do you make?
Cause I want a brand new Porsche Boxster S convertible and a diamond big enough to choke a horse.

 

[Gone]

Buckthorn, did you experience any increased body hair along with your hyperandrogenicity?