If A Cure Were To Come Out Soon, What Do You Think It Would Be?

[Distressed]

Honestly, the only cure(s) I'm seeing (that doesn't involve literally destroying chemicals that make you a male) is stem cell treatments and gene therapy (CRISPR). Despite major breakthroughs in the past month alone (and 7 years), I don't think there's any other way it's gonna be possible unless we find the exact direct link to hair loss itself that causes the domino effect.

 

[MrV88]

Only possible solution if you can't find the reason and a treatment: clone the sh*t out of your donor!

 

[vernon]

I m trying not to obssess over it since we should get a clearer picture in the following months (follica's data release, that congress in october, shiseido trial data, if I got it correctly; not sure what Tsuji is doing atm)

maybe there should be a locked thread with official events timeline and news releases from companies only.

 

[sangan89]

BROTZU and FOLLICA







ahahahahahahaha

 

[MomoGee]

I am inclined to say Follica and Shiseido could be the closest thing to a near future cure. But looking through old threads it seems we are stuck in an infinite loop composed from hope, desperation, defeat, and acceptance. I really, really, really hope I am wrong and we will drive down the highway someday with our glorious hair waving in the wind.

 

[mdmnota]

I only have hope in Tsuji

 

[Distressed]

I am inclined to say Follica and Shiseido could be the closest thing to a near future cure. But looking through old threads it seems we are stuck in an infinite loop composed from hope, desperation, defeat, and acceptance. I really, really, really hope I am wrong and we will drive down the highway someday with our glorious hair waving in the wind.

Understandable, but look at it this way, we've made far more breakthroughs in the 2010s than in 2000s. Most people back in the 2000s just assumed minoxidill and finasteride was doing all the work and so no one had to worry as much, not to mention Hair Congress wasn't even a thing yet and far fewer companies were finding their way around hair loss.

Now, technology is advancing faster and people care about hair loss more than ever. So many companies are now on board and millennials care a fuckton about their hair due to how society is now, so it's all major now. We know far more about hair loss now than a decade ago, back then we still only assumed DHT was doing all the work.

Have hope, at least one of these companies must come out successful because it'll be unreal if suddenly every last one fails on us.

 

[ALightInTheDark]

In Order :
Follica, Polishem Finasteride, Samumed are the closest.
Breezula,Fevi/Seti,Shiseido,Tsuji, Histogen.
Follicum,Hair Cloning.
Gene Editing (CRISPR)

Voila!

 

[Spanishboy97]

In Order :
Follica, Polishem Finasteride, Samumed are the closest.
Breezula,Fevi/Seti,Shiseido,Tsuji, Histogen.
Follicum,Hair Cloning.
Gene Editing (CRISPR)

Voila!

Shiseido is set for the, next year

 

[MrV88]

Shiseido is as close as Follica (due we don't know when)

Samumed is not as close as Shiseido

Histogen is dead

Follicum as far away as Tsuji maybe more

 

[nameless]

Closest we'll come to is Tsuji in the (near) future.

Crisper and gene editing will be for the long run.

Another "cure" IMO is this:

If Shiseido/repli brings a legit maintenance therapy without side effects and combine that with a solid transplant, Boom here's your cure.

I think gene editing will come 3 - 4 years after Tsuji.

Also, if you do the Replicel + transplant route you better be 100% sure that the Replicel will do legit maintenance. If it doesn't then you could look like sh!t after a few years.

 

[nameless]

Shiseido is as close as Follica (due we don't know when)

Samumed is not as close as Shiseido

Histogen is dead

Follicum as far away as Tsuji maybe more

Agreed. And we get world from Kerasem this year as well.

 

[sunchyme1]

Agreed. And we get world from Kerasem this year as well.

are you on any meds nameless?

did you have a hair transplant in the past?

 

[MomoGee]

Understandable, but look at it this way, we've made far more breakthroughs in the 2010s than in 2000s. Most people back in the 2000s just assumed minoxidill and finasteride was doing all the work and so no one had to worry as much, not to mention Hair Congress wasn't even a thing yet and far fewer companies were finding their way around hair loss.

Now, technology is advancing faster and people care about hair loss more than ever. So many companies are now on board and millennials care a fuckton about their hair due to how society is now, so it's all major now. We know far more about hair loss now than a decade ago, back then we still only assumed DHT was doing all the work.

Have hope, at least one of these companies must come out successful because it'll be unreal if suddenly every last one fails on us.

For the sake of my psychological health and my sex life I hope what you are saying is true.

 

[MrV88]

Agreed. And we get world from Kerasem this year as well.

İ'm not positive about kerastem. Can't imagine that it would work as good as Shiseido, Follica (based on the new Infosys from noisette) or Tsuji

 

[HNMB]

I've read so much hype about Follica. How close are they really? And "good" is their product to actually regrowing/maintaining hair? I know it's all speculation of course, but what do you guys think?

 

[nameless]

Commercial gene editing in 4 years is very optimistic imo and even if it comes out we all know hairloss will not be a priority. Hope you're right though but it's best if we stay as realistic as possible. (or you have some more information? If so, do enlighten us)

I think replicel will deliver maintenance if we go by their results, in a recent presentation they even said the therapy was still working after 2 years.

Replicel + transplant is still the most viable cure we'll have in the (hopefully) very near future.

I think that Kerastem + hair transplant should also be added to that list of possibilities for the near future.

I did not say that gene editing would be available for hair loss in 4 years. I said it would be availalbe 3 - 4 years after Tsuji. Tsuji is about 2 1/2 years away plus 3 to 4 years = 5 1/2 to 6 1/2 years to gene editing to cure hair loss.

 

[abcdefg]

yeah gene therapy or hair multiplication. Gene therapy though I think attacking the androgen receptors might be a lot easier than trying to cure male pattern baldness itself because without androgen receptors in the scalp there is no male pattern baldness. In terms of prevention. If your bald already this wont help you

 

[RegenWaiting]

Given the small or (lately) bigger amounts of information that we've had over the past couple years, I'd say that a (potential) combination therapy of Follica adn Shiseido is a possibility.

Again, from their respective claims (neogenesis of hair - Follica) and study results (Replicel phase 1), we can reasonable assume that there may be a possibility of getting those 25 hairs(terminal) plus 75 (neogenic-vellus) pr square cm with Follica, and them go for injections of dermal sheath cup cells (correlated to follicle size) to make them bigger(those vellus) and immune - at least for 24 months.

We've seen that Replicel's phase 1 for the most part resulted in sparse regrowth, ie maybe it was follicles who was minituarized, but not ''to far gone''? A little speculation here, but even if those 2 companies end up delivering only half of what they claim/their available study results, we'll still possibly be able to end up with cca 50-75 terminal hairs pr square cm - on an already totally bald scalp. And that is not bald, maybe balding. Still, a little or moderate transplant will satisfy most-ish...

Just my 2c,

Cheers

 

[H]

For people who are just starting to lose their hair up to Nw2 and a half Follica and Replicel. For anyone else Tsuji.

 

[hanginginthewire]

For people who are just starting to lose their hair up to Nw2 and a half Follica and Replicel. For anyone else Tsuji.

That seems like a rather arbitrary line of demarcation...