im a creepo now, so ****ing depressing

[JZA70]

when your bald your soul has died and your considerd as trash

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[benjt]

@swingline: In all honesty, I did forget about the higher education situation in the US when I wrote my post. I can totally understand why somebody would not want to take the risk of using loans for funding studies when he cannot be certain he will graduate and thus be able to pay them back. I have to revise my statement in so far as that it does not apply to countries where tuition fees keep you from studying a) at the school that you want and b) the subject you want because failure would be a threat to your existance due to debts, basically. Anyway, I am still certain that the statement holds in Europe because here you "only" need to have the willpower to invest the effort and to abdicate from leasure activities until you finish your undergrad studies. At least money isnt keeping you from studying.

@bald29:

Well... You obviously don't talk from experience.

Of course I do. It's just that I made different experiences than you. Additionally, the hypothesis that "money can compensate your baldness" wasnt mine to begin with (and I don't even support it). My claim was only that, given sufficient willpower and discipline (and of course an education system that doesnt fvck you in the bum if you dont have rich parents), it's quite easy to become "rich". It takes 3 years of 60 to 70 hours of intense work if youre bad in the respective fields, but it is possible to make it through a degree with extremely high salaries if you are actually willing to put that amount of effort into it. I didnt say that being rich will improve anything about your datability in regards to compensating your baldness.

I make very solid money, close to 6 figures in my 20s, and I can tell you that it doesn't really help when you are bald.

It depends on what kind of girls. For the girls that I like to date, being rich indeed doesnt matter and thus doesnt give me any advantage at all. Still, there are girls who will date you for your money, but I dont want to date them. But if you only want any gf so you can get laid? Yes, money will find you one.

I did extremely good with girls a few years ago when I was sharing a house with 6 other people and making less than $25K a year. I was also shy, and kind of stupid, but had tons of attractive girls to choose from. Today, I think that in the last 2 years only 2 or 3 girls have visited my luxury apartment, which by the way is located in the best neighborhood of my city (a capital).

I'm not surprised. a) because in our age group materialistic stuff doesnt matter much in general (or at least among the people I like to hang out with), and b) in capitals the majority of the populace has more than sufficient financial means for their lives. Not much to be gained from being rich that REALLY would improve your life. I would never spend money on a "luxury apartment", neither for myself nor for impressing anybody (the latter reason would indeed be the worse one).

That's because girls in my age range are filtering me out as soon as they see me, and they couldn't care less about how much money I make, or whether I'm funny, smart, confident or whatever.

Again, I can only speak from my own experience with my situation being NW3, but funny/smart is what works in my case even though I'm NW3. Can't say that I get laid very often (once every two to three months usually; until two months ago I was lucky to have a friends with benefits thing going on on top of the regular "rate"), but then again I'm not hunting for quick sex to begin with. No, I don't get every girl that I want - but so what? That's life, you don't always get what you want. As long as I still see that I get to be with somebody from time to time I'm happy.
I know, though, that NW3 is probably a "magic line" and things might really get downhill from there, but only time will tell. Maybe my wits will still work then.

I don't know about that 40%, but it's still a minority. It still leaves you at the bottom of the dating market, and notice that the study starts from NW3. Imagine what that means for the NW5 -- or even more, the NW5 who are younger than 30--. I will just leave the adjectives to your imagination.

Wouldnt say bottom. Disadvantage? Definitely so. One anecdote of mine from last year: Was competing over a visually and personality-wise very attractive girl with another guy. He was indeed very good looking - NW1 hairline, athletic body, full beard, well dressed. Me? NW3, not exactly a fashionista. I scored. Why? Maybe because of my wits and humor, maybe because of the fact that he was only 1.70m (should be about 5.5 feet in US units). But the reason doesnt quite matter. The point is: Being NW3 at 25 does not put you at the bottom of the dating market or out of the game. You can still compete. You will not win as often as the typical NW1 will, but you will from time to time, i.e. you have a chance and you can compete; you are not at the bottom.
Again, this is only an NW3 perspective. Don't know what your situation is or how mine would be at NW5.

 

[swingline747]

@swingline: In all honesty, I did forget about the higher education situation in the US when I wrote my post. I can totally understand why somebody would not want to take the risk of using loans for funding studies when he cannot be certain he will graduate and thus be able to pay them back. I have to revise my statement in so far as that it does not apply to countries where tuition fees keep you from studying a) at the school that you want and b) the subject you want because failure would be a threat to your existance due to debts, basically. Anyway, I am still certain that the statement holds in Europe because here you "only" need to have the willpower to invest the effort and to abdicate from leasure activities until you finish your undergrad studies. At least money isnt keeping you from studying.
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Yup my age group definitely missed the better years of this country. All that's left is to watch it burn.

 

[bald29]

benjt: I think we agree on all the points. About:

Wouldnt say bottom. Disadvantage? Definitely so. One anecdote of mine from last year: Was competing over a visually and personality-wise very attractive girl with another guy. He was indeed very good looking - NW1 hairline, athletic body, full beard, well dressed. Me? NW3, not exactly a fashionista. I scored. Why? Maybe because of my wits and humor, maybe because of the fact that he was only 1.70m (should be about 5.5 feet in US units). But the reason doesnt quite matter. The point is: Being NW3 at 25 does not put you at the bottom of the dating market or out of the game. You can still compete. You will not win as often as the typical NW1 will, but you will from time to time, i.e. you have a chance and you can compete; you are not at the bottom.
Again, this is only an NW3 perspective. Don't know what your situation is or how mine would be at NW5.

I'm an NW5, and the difference is huge. I feel at the bottom, and I know I'm at it; for example people don't even ask me anymore if I have a girlfriend. Everyone assumes I don't. When I get laid with some "meh" girl I met at the club, if I tell someone the next day that I had sex, I can see in their faces that they don't really believe me. I also get asked a lot if it was with a prostitute. So, yeah, NW5 before 30, that's rock bottom in the dating market.

Also, about the "luxury apartment". That's just for me. A nice place improves your quality of life in many ways; it means more comfort, better neighbors, and other advantages. It's not a coincidence that rich people don't share flats in shady neighborhoods.

 

[Exodus2011]

benjt: I think we agree on all the points. About:



I'm an NW5, and the difference is huge. I feel at the bottom, and I know I'm at it; for example people don't even ask me anymore if I have a girlfriend. Everyone assumes I don't. When I get laid with some "meh" girl I met at the club, if I tell someone the next day that I had sex, I can see in their faces that they don't really believe me. I also get asked a lot if it was with a prostitute. So, yeah, NW5 before 30, that's rock bottom in the dating market.

Also, about the "luxury apartment". That's just for me. A nice place improves your quality of life in many ways; it means more comfort, better neighbors, and other advantages. It's not a coincidence that rich people don't share flats in shady neighborhoods.

i feel your pain brother. if you want anyone to talk to, feel free to private mesage me anytime.

i'm norwood 6 at 21 (check my thread in "tell your story) and it really ****ing sucks. just know you aren't alone man.

it pisses me off seeing these norwood 2s and 3s acting like they know what hair loss is all about. id be happy with benjt's position of norwood 3 at 25. some receding halfway through your 20s? meh, thats nothing compared to guys like you and me

 

[HustlingBaldly]

Dude you will be rejected so many times that you never will reach the number of 100.

I am the 0.001% of the human population experiencing hair loss at my age, you are the 20% experiencing hair loss at your age. Tell me why would a young girl choose one of those low percentage, while there are still another 80% guys with hair available? Especially if she is around a 7.5 or higher (were we guys at least aim for) she already got enough 'potential' partners, so why would she choose a balding guy.

Okay, let me now tell this in a more biolical way (gonna keep this short). We humans are like animals, but far more advanced. We simply search for the best genes available. putting this plainly simple, balding at a young age is a very bad gene in their eyes.

I like being optimistic but if you are too optimistic, the truth is only gonna hit you harder. Hair loss = life quality loss of 80% or higher.

Try it and it works. It is about how you pose yourself and your confidence.

 

[2bald2young]

Try it and it works. It is about how you pose yourself and your confidence.

I am sure it works but only if you keep trying. The problem is you need to be mentally very strong to keep on going until you finally don't get rejected. That's my whole point here, you ain't going to be able to keep on trying.

 

[Exodus2011]

Haha its such a ****ing weight having to deal with this. to EVEN get to where your average 21 year old is at, i have to try 3 times harder . . . . . what the ****.

a fresh wave of sadness just came over me by the way. i see this "body image" leaflet that my college has on its website- http://readsh101.com/0614/05/wakete...mail&utm_content=bodyimage&utm_campaign=week1

that makes me mad. WHAT THE HELL DO THE OTHER STUDENTS AT MY COLLEGE KNOW ABOUT BODY IMAGE ISSUES???

*wahh* cries the hipster, my skin is too pale! *wahh* cries the rich spoiled white girl, i'm too lazy to lose weight!

makes me so angry . . . . . i should be making the pamphlet lol

 

[swingline747]

. i should be making the pamphlet lol

Do it

 

[c_super2]

i feel your pain brother. if you want anyone to talk to, feel free to private mesage me anytime.

i'm norwood 6 at 21 (check my thread in "tell your story) and it really ****ing sucks. just know you aren't alone man.

it pisses me off seeing these norwood 2s and 3s acting like they know what hair loss is all about. id be happy with benjt's position of norwood 3 at 25. some receding halfway through your 20s? meh, thats nothing compared to guys like you and me

Oh God, sorry to hear that brother. I have it hard at a NW3, but I cant imagine being a NW4+. I am also lucky that my hairloss seemed to have stopped. Hang in there dude.

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What are you actually looking for? My buddy is 5-6 and has a really good looking wife. We are all baffled honestly.
He really worked and hounded for her as well.

If youre looking for the wife and kids life you can find someone, this I know. As for people staring, most dont. Trust me. Most people are so self occupied they dont even notice you.
Try the wig, or a hair system, maybe you'll love it but dont go to nuts cause if you dont like it it will be hard explaining to people how you went bald over night.

Lots of good looking women end up settling. I know of one woman in her early 40s who is about an 8.5/10 and her husband looked really bad, im talking about a 5. All of the good looking guys **** em and leave. They rarely have a choice.

 

[Scalpology]

i wouldn't kill yourself
there is nothing after death
NOTHING

Ending your life, what will that do? Uhmmm look at me I don't feel or do anything....I don't exist.....blackness...hello?
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I cant give you any advice though except buck up.

Being 6'6ft and having a thick blonde mane of hair and zero forehead, with a smokin hot girlfriend who I bang most nights, feelz good man.
I possible couldn't understand what it feels to be you.

Nothing is sometimes better than awful something.

 

[HustlingBaldly]

I am sure it works but only if you keep trying. The problem is you need to be mentally very strong to keep on going until you finally don't get rejected. That's my whole point here, you ain't going to be able to keep on trying.

Well I don't know if this guy is mentally strong to do so, but if you try it and work at it, and few times it works out and the person feel better about himself. I did 2 nights ago, but I had few shots in me, I met with hot brunette with tattoos up on her body, we had some fun.

 

[Exodus2011]

Oh God, sorry to hear that brother. I have it hard at a NW3, but I cant imagine being a NW4+. I am also lucky that my hairloss seemed to have stopped. Hang in there dude.

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Lots of good looking women end up settling. I know of one woman in her early 40s who is about an 8.5/10 and her husband looked really bad, im talking about a 5. All of the good looking guys **** em and leave. They rarely have a choice.

norwood 3s dont have it hard lol. a little receding . . . . . thats all that is

 

[Scalpology]

Norwood 3 is already confirmed genetic garbage. If you can't pull of Zyzz haircut, it's OVER!

 

[slipy]

Once upon a time in a distant land a dark lord of bald-dom ruled his kingdom. Enter Exodus 2011.


Exodus: ''Mirror, Mirror on the wall, who's the baldest of them all?''

Mirror: ''You, my master, are the very baldest. Your severe bald-dom will ensure peace and prosperity in our kingdom for years to come.''

Exodus: ''Good, good.....yes.'' *devious smirk*


And so our bald, shiny lord went on to rule the Kingdom of No Flowing Locks unhindered.
Couple of years passed.


Exodus: "Mirror, Mirror on the wall, who's the baldest of them all?"

Mirror: ''My Lord, for many years you've been the undisputed and the very definition of being bald as f*ck, that very few could dream of coming close to. You, my sir, are so very f*cking bald. but....sadly...

In a land far, far away a lowly bald-cel called Slipy the Bald lives. This once unremarkable specimen, once dismissed by the League of Bald-dom and deemed unworthy because of his Norwood 3, has finally managed to match the inconceivable bald-dom of yours, that he has so eagerly looked forward to, and even surpass it. He's the world's first ever Norwood 708. Not even a single cell in his body resembles a follicule.

Truly the baldest one of all!''

Exodus: "FUUUU.......K!''


The End!

 

[Baldester]

no sir, u ain't got no ****ing idea about "the king of bald", and if there was such a position, then i suggest you consult the guy with diffuse total thinning who started at 13 and had to start deceiving people at 16 that he actually wasn't thinning , and now at 20 does nothing but sulk at home as the little bald ugly damn f u c k he has become wishing he had deluded himself a bit longer by styling his hair and looking at the mirror from dark angles.