im booked to have my galea removed in Belgium in September

[Cornholio]

I thought a study was recently posted showing that there is already a relative hypoperfusion in areas of male pattern baldness as shown by lower tissue pO2 (capillary oxygen pressure)... If the areas of balding are already selectively relatively hypoperfused how is decreasing bloodflow more going to help? It didnt prevent the balding... Just a thought.

 

[marsbtchsx]

can someone please explain to me wtf a galea is??????? please

 

[Chujgcha]

...

 

[TourdeForce24]

I'm not going to even bother responding to you in any length. You are more pathetic than Gunner, if that is even possible. Gunner at least seems to have some hope remaining at living a normal life. You would go so far as to mutilating yourself to save a little bit of hair? Good luck with all that.

 

[Guest]

Gilgamesh has already explained his reasons why his hair is important to him (see his castration thread).

Although we don't have to agree with what he is suggesting, we shouldn't mock him for it either.

 

[dead]

Gilgamesh is undoubtably troubled by his hair loss beyond what can be considered normal , he is possibly (but not definately) depressed and almost certainly suffering from body dysmorphic disorder, throw in inpenatrable confidence in his convictions, his ability to brush aside all views on psychotherapy that do not meet with what he has learnt on his college course and we have a recipe for regret.

 

[Atlas]

I'm not a doctor or anything along those lines, but this seems like a bad idea that reeks of scam and could pose serious risks to your heatlh. If you stare at statistics long enough, you will find a pattern that conicides with the results you seek even if there is no truth behind it.

 

[Pirate Commander F.B.]

All I will say is this: I live in Belgium and know two people (through the internet) who have had this done. One had it done at the clinic you mentioned (Wellness) and another got it done in Holland. Both said it didn't work for them - at all.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Just my opinion, but if you are going to try such drastic procedures, go for the arterial ligation first!

S Foote.

s foote, thanks. do you know who performs arterial ligations? i know proctor said many times his trusted colleague did, but i'm not so confident he'll give me a reference.

 

[Gilgamesh]

All I will say is this: I live in Belgium and know two people (through the internet) who have had this done. One had it done at the clinic you mentioned (Wellness) and another got it done in Holland. Both said it didn't work for them - at all.

would you be kind and PLEEEEASE let me speak to these people (their email or messenger names, etc.). i would really appreciate it

 

[Gilgamesh]

I'm not going to even bother responding to you in any length. You are more pathetic than Gunner, if that is even possible. Gunner at least seems to have some hope remaining at living a normal life. You would go so far as to mutilating yourself to save a little bit of hair? Good luck with all that.

getting fiesty there are we skipper

perhaps I can inspire you the same way young Gunner has!

xoxoxo

 

[Guest]

I'm sorry but you are f*****g mental.

Don't do it - you really have some issues to sort out in you head.

Are you on any depression medication?

Are you seeing a psychiatrist?

For the benefit of yourself and other people on this site please try and straighten yourself out.

Read my signature - it makes sense.

I would have to agree with neiltom88 and Cornholio. This is taking a step over the sane/insane threshold. Because you have to ask yourself: is it worth turning into some kind of Darth Vaderesque entity to save your hair? You seem to find it acceptable to lose your mind, but not your hair. Check out psychotherapy before you do this--they might have input worth listening to.

Neiltom88: anyone who quotes himself, and then refers to his quote frequentlly thereafter, fits the Old English Dictionary's definition of "tool".

Alopecia-Nate:

Anyone who regularly starts unprovoked attacks on the discussion forums of a 'Hairloss Website' fits the Old English Dictionary's definition of a "c***".

Maybe one day you will be able to socialise with people on a face-to-face basis through speech and body language. But for the time being, you just concentrate on your 'internet' social skills.

 

[S Foote.]

Just my opinion, but if you are going to try such drastic procedures, go for the arterial ligation first!

S Foote.

s foote, thanks. do you know who performs arterial ligations? i know proctor said many times his trusted colleague did, but i'm not so confident he'll give me a reference.

Sorry i don't know who performs this procedure, but if Dr Proctor knows, i can't think why he shouldn't tell you!

S Foote.

 

[Gilgamesh]

thanks s.foote

just found another guy from an old post on haresite

"belgian Mon Jun-02-03 02:59 PM


#5108, "RE: galeatomy ?"
In response to Reply # 0




the surgery (galeatomy) was made one year ago and my hair are thicker.
it works for me, and for others. I don't take proscar anymore, just minoxidil and zinc/b6 lotion.
"

 

[Gilgamesh]

i should note, this isn't a dangerous procedure

"Dont forget removing the Galea is a relatively simple procedure for any
doctor to perform, so why would they pay big bucks to learn how to do
transplants when they can do a simple procedure for little or no cost.

Farrel

Hair Loss Help "

 

[S Foote.]

I thought a study was recently posted showing that there is already a relative hypoperfusion in areas of male pattern baldness as shown by lower tissue pO2 (capillary oxygen pressure)... If the areas of balding are already selectively relatively hypoperfused how is decreasing bloodflow more going to help? It didnt prevent the balding... Just a thought.

I you think about this in terms of scalp edema and tissue fluid pressure, all these factors make sense.

I am suggesting that hair follicles evolved to adjust their size in response to the pressure in the surrounding tissue, and DHT can change the local fluid pressures. In male pattern baldness DHT increases the fluid pressure in the individual in the male pattern baldness area, leading to smaller follicles through normal contact inhibition.

The low oxygenation reported in the balding scalp is consistent with edema. In edema the stagnation of fluid turnover reduces the oxygen supply. The immune sensitivity and fibrosis in male pattern baldness, is also recognised in edemous tissue. http://www.lymphoedema.org.au/

The arterial ligiture procedure reduces the blood supply that is `feeding' the scalp edema.

When there is edema in an area of tissue, this is reduced somewhat by dispersion of fluid through the surrounding tissues. The galea membrane would restrict this passage of fluid, and would encourage the fluid retention in the male pattern baldness area.

It is `ONLY' scalp edema that makes sense of the factors being debated here!

S Foote.

 

[d_umberly]

W

When there is edema in an area of tissue, this is reduced somewhat by dispersion of fluid through the surrounding tissues. The galea membrane would restrict this passage of fluid, and would encourage the fluid retention in the male pattern baldness area.

It is `ONLY' scalp edema that makes sense of the factors being debated here!

S Foote.

S. Foote

What known effective treatments are there to treat this scalp edema?

Thanks

 

[Cornholio]

sleep in a lazy-boy? compressive wraps for your head when recumbant : ) ?

more important would be "is there any evidence that attempting to manipulate scalp edema/ pressure effects hair growth.."

 

[d_umberly]

"is there any evidence that attempting to manipulate scalp edema/ pressure effects hair growth.."

Yes, you guessed it, that is my question. So any one know of an effective treatment? Any clinical trials or findings?

 

[Guest]

Alopecia-Nate:

Anyone who regularly starts unprovoked attacks on the discussion forums of a 'Hairloss Website' fits the Old English Dictionary's definition of a "c***".

Maybe one day you will be able to socialise with people on a face-to-face basis through speech and body language. But for the time being, you just concentrate on your 'internet' social skills.

Regularly? I've got less than 300 posts, you're pushing 800, and I regularly start unprovoked attacks? As far as I can tell, there's nothing indicating I regularly post here, period. Maybe one day you will be able to pull yourself away from the computer long enough to tutor me in social skills. Until then, keep the advice coming, and the self-quotation flowing, tool.