Immune system and hairloss!!

[Jack_the_Lad]

Hi all
just wondering weather anyone had any information here about the correlation between the immune system, DHT and hair loss. I read in an article that DHT attaches itself to the receptor of a hair follicle and then the immune system attacks the hair follicle, I was wondering if some one could clear this up for me.

Cheers Jack

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Hi all
just wondering weather anyone had any information here about the correlation between the immune system, DHT and hair loss. I read in an article that DHT attaches itself to the receptor of a hair follicle and then the immune system attacks the hair follicle, I was wondering if some one could clear this up for me.

Cheers Jack

I'm not sure either. :freaked:
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[joe_mama]

Hey

I think that's a theory that hasn't been totally proven, but there is evidence to suggest that's what happens. But it makes a lot of sense. That would also explain a lot of the inflamation and scalp issues a lot of people with hairloss have.

I have heard about cases where people with hairloss on immune system repression drugs have had positive hair results.

 

[The Gardener]

I personally don't think any of those doctors know what the f*** they are talking about when it comes to hairloss. They know how some individual pieces of the process work, but are clueless as to how it all fits together in the bigger picture.

Dr Lee is probably among the few who know the most, and even he admits that much of male pattern baldness is a mystery.

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

I've also heard of parasites attacking the hair follicles. Does this have any connection to the immune system and DHT?

 

[The Gardener]

It's true. Now, why can't they genetically modify microscopic hair parasites to eat DHT? It's about time they start using GM for something useful for a change.... and while they're at it, they can start by GM'ing bananas so a batch will ripen one at a time, sequentially, instead of all at once. Is that too much to ask for? I question the priorities of some in research and engineering... they can put a man on the damn moon but still can't produce a fax machine that reliably faxes ONE page at a time for faxes over 20 pages or so.

 

[lentara]

Right on, Gardener.
ALL this technology and the sh*t that they still can't treat, fix, or make at least tolerable is mind-boggling!
I agree about questioning the priorites of many in research and engineering. Think if they find a cure for baldness how much money will be lost from various treatment industries. On and on ad nauseum. :/

 

[The Gardener]

Very true, Lentara. In the process of deciding how to address my own condition I've done a lot of webbing and reading, and incidentally discovered this MB. Pattern Hair Loss has turned out to be an extremely complicated process, far more complicated than straight genetics or ageing or hormones. It is all of these factors combined.

If I had to predict what the ideal cure is in the future, and this is complete fiction, I would think it would come in the form of some kind of pill that would alter receptors on hair follicles to prevent them from being bound to by malicious enzymes and substances that cause pattern hair loss. Kind of like what immuno-suppressant drugs do now for transplanted organs.

 

[lentara]

Thank goodness for the web! I What I find sad is the folks that are dealing with this condition sometimes seem more knowledgable than the physcians we have to go to. :grrr: I think it's just as frustrating for you guys as it is for us gals!
Hey, your idea sounds as good as any! It seems plausible but then I know jack about science!

 

[ShedMaster]

Thank goodness for the web! I What I find sad is the folks that are dealing with this condition sometimes seem more knowledgable than the physcians we have to go to. :grrr: I think it's just as frustrating for you guys as it is for us gals!
Hey, your idea sounds as good as any! It seems plausible but then I know jack about science!

You have found exactly what I found out when I went to a dermatologist.. The guy wrote me a prescription for propecia in 5 minutes and left the room. I felt robbed and every question I asked, this was before I became educated from this website, he couldnt really answer.

Whats sad is that here is this a**h** with a million dollar practice in a huge brand new office and he didn't his a**h** from a hole in the ground when it came to hairloss. What a joke!

 

[Dice_Has_Hair]

Can we kill the parasites that attack the follicals? :? :freaked:

 

[Jack_the_Lad]

Right on, Gardener.
ALL this technology and the sh*t that they still can't treat, fix, or make at least tolerable is mind-boggling!
I agree about questioning the priorites of many in research and engineering. Think if they find a cure for baldness how much money will be lost from various treatment industries. On and on ad nauseum. :/

When they do find the once-off cure for baldness, it will cost as much as something like 15 years worth of medication, either way they'll reap the money

 

[The Gardener]

Can we kill the parasites that attack the follicals? :? :freaked:

I don't think those parasites are harmful... it is my understanding that they don't eat the hair, but actually eat dead skin cells. (somebody step in if not the case and correct me??) There are a lot of parasites that live in and on the human body that are benign and actually necessary for the body to work properly.

 

[Paladin_X]

lol

Its funny how people here are saying exactly what i did.. But i got totally ridiculed lol. I definitely questions research and development. You will get a hairloss cure after they are done bleeding the markets with drugs. My guess is that the next step in hairloss will be a divider between pharamseuticals and hair transplant companies. This will only occur once the big dogs bleed the market to their satisfaction. When they are finished, the limited donor source of hairtransplants will no longer be a problem. This is my theory, my opinion, and only time will tell.. keep the hate down to a min please.

 

[The Gardener]

:stupid:

 

[Jack_the_Lad]

Cures

I don't rthink that the big companies will purposely hold back innovation. When they do find a cure though, I think it's cost will probaly be matched to the equivalent of a good many years on medication. It's like when most new inventions come out they're very expensive, and gradually get cheaper as the market penetration diffuses.

 

[Paladin_X]

"I agree about questioning the priorites of many in research and engineering. Think if they find a cure for baldness how much money will be lost from various treatment industries. "

DAMN STRAIGHT.. Big companies with billions wont allow it :wink:

 

[Cassin]

"I agree about questioning the priorites of many in research and engineering. Think if they find a cure for baldness how much money will be lost from various treatment industries. "

DAMN STRAIGHT.. Big companies with billions wont allow it :wink:

you should move to oneof those hippie farms where they grow there own food an be done with dealing with normal humans.

 

[Guest]

Re: lol

Its funny how people here are saying exactly what i did.. But i got totally ridiculed lol. I definitely questions research and development. You will get a hairloss cure after they are done bleeding the markets with drugs. My guess is that the next step in hairloss will be a divider between pharamseuticals and hair transplant companies. This will only occur once the big dogs bleed the market to their satisfaction. When they are finished, the limited donor source of hairtransplants will no longer be a problem. This is my theory, my opinion, and only time will tell.. keep the hate down to a min please.

No, you are right. It is a conspiracy and they are all out to get us!

 

[Guest]

"I agree about questioning the priorites of many in research and engineering. Think if they find a cure for baldness how much money will be lost from various treatment industries. "

DAMN STRAIGHT.. Big companies with billions wont allow it :wink:

Your proof for this is what?