Is It Too Late Too Medication?

[Illusions]

I see. I'm ok with the money it costs, the downsides for me would be the pain from the procedure and the amount of time I will have to shave/be bald after the procedure until the hair grows out. But apart from finasteride and dutasteride, is there anything else to try?

There isn't much pain since it's obviously done under anesthetics, maybe a bit of pain afterwards when it's swollen but nothing major. Also it could be done without shaving the top of your hair as long as you can maintain the hair that you haven't yet lost with finasteride. As far as treatments go there's only really finasteride/dutasteride and rogaine that work effectively.

 

[Templanoid]

There isn't much pain since it's obviously done under anesthetics, maybe a bit of pain afterwards when it's swollen but nothing major. Also it could be done without shaving the top of your hair as long as you can maintain the hair that you haven't yet lost with finasteride. As far as treatments go there's only really finasteride/dutasteride and rogaine that work effectively.

Always thought that most doctors want your current hair to be shaved, or cut very short, to do the procedure, if not that I would definitely consider it. I don't want scars of the implants to be too visible. Thanks for the info.

Not trying to be mean. Your hairline is good.. compared to your vertex, yes (relatively speaking).

Honesty has always been my policy. Aggressive treatments are a must if you want to go back to
a Norwood four. As you get older, our DHT/Testosterone levels drop, so you can taper off.

Some guys can make really big gains. But those are men in their twenties/or who just recently
lost their hair.

As for the hair you lost over a span of years ago, it may or may not grow back. But recently lost
hair probably will.

If you want to take the safer route, and not do dutasteride, I recommend the following for you. Some men have had success
on this, and it might work for you as well.

Use 1.25 mg Finasteride (Proscar/cut up in quarters. Maybe in thirds). Take every day. And use five percent Minoxidil
(Foam, because it's going to dandruff, cause major shedding in your case). Take the Foam three times a day (5% Minoxidil).

You're really going to have to do both at this point.

Who knows, maybe you will gain fifty percent of it back. That would be a good gain.

Here is my current regiment:
Finasteride - 1mg, once a day. (Started 6 months ago)
Minoxidil - topical, twice a day (one morning and one evening)
Ketaconazole - once a week.

If I was to go with stronger, what do you suggest? I thought my foctor wont prescience me more than 1mg Finasteride pills, if i need more, where can I get them from?

 

[alexpie2]

Definitely get a buzz or shave it off; it is to the point of no return in my opinion. The chances of regrowing a suitable amount of hair that will make you look like you are not balding are close to zero. You are not losing your hair in the typical male pattern baldness pattern, so blood work might be beneficial. Maybe do some tests on zinc, testosterone, dihydrotesosterone, progesterone, candida, biotin, and cortisol levels.

 

[needwisdom101]

Might as well shave it man

 

[Templanoid]

It depends on where you live, customs (people who might take it away, going to your country and away).

Some people order it online (Propecia). As for he US, Minoxidil is very easy to get. In fact, it will cost the
same amount for a lunch, or maybe two meals.

Would recommend Minoxidil foam, and use it at least three times. Make sure you get your temples, and the
top hair as well (all of it, yes, use more than a half capful).

Just supplement your Finasteride (script + something online).

Minoxidil isn't dangerous at all, in my own opinion. Personally, I use both foam and 30% concentrated, with
topical Finasteride/Progesterone. Which I supplement with five percent as well. (and use higher than I should..).

Don't want you to have ED, so if the Finasteride is too high, better to save your libido. Without that, what's the
point of having hair?

But I would try to take 1.5mg or 1.25.

Maybe you can get the Proscar (Finasteride tablet for prostate cancer dosage).

Look at Bernstiens (dr. bernsteins) link for people who are only on medication. A lot of them are doing much better, and he always (except for one guy) prescribes 1.25 mg Finasteride. You'll see what I mean. The results are usually excellent (at least eighty percent are). There's over
fifty guys there.

Dr. Bernstein? Can you give me the link to it? I am in the US. And yes, i currently do use the Minoxidil foam - 5%.

Definitely get a buzz or shave it off; it is to the point of no return in my opinion. The chances of regrowing a suitable amount of hair that will make you look like you are not balding are close to zero. You are not losing your hair in the typical male pattern baldness pattern, so blood work might be beneficial. Maybe do some tests on zinc, testosterone, dihydrotesosterone, progesterone, candida, biotin, and cortisol levels.

Hmm I'll try to get blood tested for those things. What about hair transplant, is it too late for that as well you think?

 

[Templanoid]

Ok, took some newer photos today after hair just washed and dried and from more angles.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

So you guys think I should continue Finasteride (1mg per day), Minoxidil (foam) and Ketaconazole (once a week), eventhough I don't see any improvements after 6 months? Are there any other better options?

If you're not getting side effects, consider switching from finasteride to dutasteride, or just adding in dutasteride once a week.

Maybe use a higher dose of minoxidil, and nizoral twice rather than once a week.

Consider dabbling in experimental stuff like castor oil, RU, or stemoxydine.

 

[Templanoid]

If you're not getting side effects, consider switching from finasteride to dutasteride, or just adding in dutasteride once a week.

Maybe use a higher dose of minoxidil, and nizoral twice rather than once a week.

Consider dabbling in experimental stuff like castor oil, RU, or stemoxydine.

I wouldn't mind trying dutasteride, but I'm not sure if I can get a prescription for it in the US?

 

[Templanoid]

Oh, another thing I should note is that I have eczema on facial skin, and I apply hydrocortisone for that. Not sure if it's related in any way.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I wouldn't mind trying dutasteride, but I'm not sure if I can get a prescription for it in the US?

It's up to your doctors. Tons of americans are using dutasteride.

 

[Dench57]

mirin that hairstyle

 

[alexpie2]

What about hair transplant, is it too late for that as well you think?

Not too late for a hair transplant, but make sure to do your research if you are planning to go that route. If you do opt for a transplant, it would be beneficial to continue finasteride to avoid losing more hair and botching your transplant. In my opinion, the people who get transplants get even MORE paranoid about their hairloss and cannot accept their fate. If you buzz/shave and get used to it, a huge relief will be put off your shoulders.

 

[abcdefg]

Yeah at that point just accepting it might be better then bothering with the life time of drugs. The drugs are mostly for maintenance not really regrowing vast amounts of hair. Id say buzz it and just forget about it or get a hair transplant. If you get the transplant that id say keep the drugs to help maintain, but if you buzz/accept id say drop the drugs too
Also buzzing/accepting it isnt a wrong choice sometimes. You can always keep in mind 10 years from now maybe a significant new treatment shows up that can regrow vast amounts of hair so its always a remote possibility.

 

[Funkymonk1]

Definitely get a buzz or shave it off; it is to the point of no return in my opinion. The chances of regrowing a suitable amount of hair that will make you look like you are not balding are close to zero. You are not losing your hair in the typical male pattern baldness pattern, so blood work might be beneficial. Maybe do some tests on zinc, testosterone, dihydrotesosterone, progesterone, candida, biotin, and cortisol levels.

This is important, listen to what people are telling you. Judging by the pictures ther's a chance this may be caused by something other then male pattern baldness in which case Finasteride or dutasteride would be a waste of time. If you're serious about this you should get blood tests done to find out the cause of your hair loss then make a decision about what you are going to do. finasteride and dutasteride can be very effective but if you're taking them when you don't actually have male pattern baldness all you're doing is messing with your hormones and potentially risking side effects for nothing (and not to mention wasting a lot of money).

 

[Templanoid]

Not too late for a hair transplant, but make sure to do your research if you are planning to go that route. If you do opt for a transplant, it would be beneficial to continue finasteride to avoid losing more hair and botching your transplant. In my opinion, the people who get transplants get even MORE paranoid about their hairloss and cannot accept their fate. If you buzz/shave and get used to it, a huge relief will be put off your shoulders.

Yeah at that point just accepting it might be better then bothering with the life time of drugs. The drugs are mostly for maintenance not really regrowing vast amounts of hair. Id say buzz it and just forget about it or get a hair transplant. If you get the transplant that id say keep the drugs to help maintain, but if you buzz/accept id say drop the drugs too
Also buzzing/accepting it isnt a wrong choice sometimes. You can always keep in mind 10 years from now maybe a significant new treatment shows up that can regrow vast amounts of hair so its always a remote possibility.

This is important, listen to what people are telling you. Judging by the pictures ther's a chance this may be caused by something other then male pattern baldness in which case Finasteride or dutasteride would be a waste of time. If you're serious about this you should get blood tests done to find out the cause of your hair loss then make a decision about what you are going to do. finasteride and dutasteride can be very effective but if you're taking them when you don't actually have male pattern baldness all you're doing is messing with your hormones and potentially risking side effects for nothing (and not to mention wasting a lot of money).

Thanks for the replies. I think this warrants enough reason to get blood tests. Apart from the ones already mentioned in this thread. What blood tests do you recommend? (I updated the original post with new pictures of my hair).

Here's a list of ones already mentioned in this thread:
- total testosterone
- free test levels
- estrogen levels
- zinc
- dihydrotesosterone
- progesterone
- candida
- biotin
- cortisol levels.

Anything else that's required?

 

[mitch1211]

Strange pattern of hair loss. Your hairline is looks intact and I don't see much temple recession at all.

 

[Templanoid]

Even with a hair transplant, the hair on your vertex is still going to shrink/die eventually. So, you
will need meds/or a second transplant after that.

Just up the finasteride a little bit. Order Proscar online.

Where can I order it online? From that bernstein site, it looks expensive, eventhough the price is not mentioned.

 

[Funkymonk1]

Thanks for the replies. I think this warrants enough reason to get blood tests. Apart from the ones already mentioned in this thread. What blood tests do you recommend? (I updated the original post with new pictures of my hair).

Here's a list of ones already mentioned in this thread:
- total testosterone
- free test levels
- estrogen levels
- zinc
- dihydrotesosterone
- progesterone
- candida
- biotin
- cortisol levels.

Anything else that's required?

I wouldn't like to say to be honest, your doctor is the best person to speak to. He's the expert and also he can examine you properly and tell you exactly what you need to be tested for. Good luck!

 

[AlwaysRock]

Just give meds a year..... In the worst case they wont do s**t.... in the best case you will get a full head of hair (dont expect it though..... there have been some miracle responder though)

 

[CopeForLife]

just SHAVE it really... this pube hair don't work...