Is there a difference with past promises and present?

[boss510]

My question is basic, and to all those that have heard about promises in the past by companies on elimating baldness.


How is the present potential breakthroughs different from past?




My understanding is that presently there are companies actually conducting trails or phases, that have experienced some positive results.

Was this present in the past, with other companies?



I know one thing for certain, whomever owns the company that first comes to market with a viable product that regrows hair; he or she might as well become the richest person in the world.



Iam getting a hair transplant in a month, so if HM was to come out in 4-5 years, it would be amazing.

 

[Boondock]

Yes, there were trials in the past.

By all means get a hair transplant, but don't base your decision on future technology that may not emerge. Dudemon did that, and it totally screwed him over.

 

[BitchBoy]

This whole hm thing has only been going on since like 2000. The tech's going to get here sooner rather than later. It's just how soon.

 

[Boondock]

This whole hm thing has only been going on since like 2000. The tech's going to get here sooner rather than later. It's just how soon.

Exactly, but people are getting deluded with optimism once again. It could well take another 20 years until you can go and get this stuff done.

Read this subforum from 2003 and look at the deluded optimism that many posters here had. Nothing has changed.

 

[Vanzzzz]

Well for ppl like Gho, there were never anything to back up his claims. Not sure abt other HM claims though.

 

[crashul]

With all due respect to all the skeptics, i went back to the 90's in some forums and i can tell you there were never this many professional approaches to HM. Today we have presentations at international annual meetings. Like this year http://www.ishrs.org/PDF/18ASM_ProgramM ... -03-10.pdf

Aderans will be presenting. So are others.

We have peer-reviewed magazines and serious articles reviewed by specialists in the field.

We have photographic evidence as well.

I challenge any skeptic to look through the forums and archives and pull out something similar earlier than 2004.

good luck. :innocent:

 

[BitchBoy]

This whole hm thing has only been going on since like 2000. The tech's going to get here sooner rather than later. It's just how soon.

Exactly, but people are getting deluded with optimism once again. It could well take another 20 years until you can go and get this stuff done.

Read this subforum from 2003 and look at the deluded optimism that many posters here had. Nothing has changed.

OK, but the point is it COULD take 5 years and we all want it as soon as possible. But it taking 100 years is alot less likely then it taking 5. People seem to think the further you project it into the future the more likely you will be right. Which is just wrong.

 

[Matt Skiba]

I think it's definitely going to come, and possibly pretty soon at that.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem like it's going to be an end-all be-all, the results are there, but they're far from a full head of hair.

So it doesn't seem like it's going to put propecia, rogaine, or hair transplants out of business, at least not in the beginning. I still think people are gonna get the best results when they use a combination of everything thats available.

Kind of a shame since I refuse to touch finasteride ever again. Seriously if I could have continued taking that stuff when I first tried it 3 years ago, my hair would probably be looking very acceptable right now, and I would be much more patient about this HM stuff coming out. It's a shame it gave me the libido problems that it did.

 

[somone uk]

what kinda past hm companies were there then,
did any of the past failures deliver hair growth at all in trials?
i find it quite contrary for science itself if we have made no progress in the last 7 years

thinking about it actually the most high tech hairloss product on market is propecia and that is 13 years old

 

[Innermind]

The numbers with the two current main treatments(histogen and aderans) are much higher than any other numbers presented in the past, with actual documented evidence that shows results, and were actually entering phase III with these technologies. These past 2 years have been the most promising of any other time.


No numbers from follica yet, but they are our trump card so lets stay positive. The more products that work, the better the prices for the consumer.

 

[somone uk]

i have just browsed through from page 15 to 1 and in 2004 people were talking about FUE (which is prevalent now), intercytex then adreans
they talked about dr gho's magic FUE but the professional board has condemned dr gho as incompetent at best, fraud at worst
intercytex as we all know lost all their money and adreans who are still going
the really early posts also talk about HM exclusively as a concept but since there was no backing body funding R+D they were far from making HM a reality

the idea of HM has existed since the 1980's (http://www.baldingblog.com/2006/03/28/i ... r-cloning/)

however ARI and histogen are the first people to have hair multiplied in vivo rather than in vitro which is the big difference between then and now, so i do think we are progressing forward in the right direction however i think i would be a fool to predict how long it will be before it's on the market