Is There Any Age Where You're Safe From Hairloss??

[brahmabull117]

My co worker had a perfect NW0-NW1 super dense thick head of hair at 47 and last 10 years (he's 57 now) has gone to a NW3 with massive diffuse thinning all over the scalp. He looks like he's going to be NW6 in maybe 5 or 6 more years


Another one of my friends was NW1 at 34 and he's NW6 now at 44

 

[Divallo]

No there isn't. But in my opinion if you make it to 47 with great hair count yourself among the lucky, Many of us are in our teens and twenties already suffering. That doesn't make your friends struggle insignificant, but understand that they are above average in their ability to keep their hair. I would give up all of my possessions if it meant having fantastic hair until I was 50 or so.

 

[Funkymonk1]

I keep on saying ther's no rules to hair loss. It can start at any age and it can be very quick and aggressive or it can be a slow hair loss over years. Generally though most guys have at least some hair loss by their mid 30s. If you've got a complete full head by 40 you're lucky.

 

[Chromedome1990]

Before puberty

 

[BetaBoy]

For ΑGΑ you are protected from it pre-puberty. Post-puberty your chances of onset only increase as the years progress.

 

[Mandar kumthekar]

If you can make it up to 50 then you will be safe for life unless age releted senescent alopecia hits you .

 

[BetaBoy]

If you can make it up to 50 then you will be safe for life unless age releted senescent alopecia hits you .

Not true, my father had a full head of hair by the age of 60, but it is only now that male pattern baldness has taken grip, admittedly it is very mild.

 

[Mandar kumthekar]

Not true, my father had a full head of hair by the age of 60, but it is only now that male pattern baldness has taken grip, admittedly it is very mild.

Really. Senescent alopecia follows a male pattern baldness like pattern sometimes. There is conflict between researchers about is there really such a thing a such senescent alopecia or it is late male pattern baldness.

 

[recedingornot87]

It can start at any age but from all of the posts ive seen online the most aggressive cases (guys destined to end up at nw6-7) onset at 16-23. I think if you reach late 20s with 0 loss than you will most likely not have the ability to go nw6-7 in your life but you can still have pattern hairloss. The thing is, people here are saying that oh my dad had thick nw1 hair until he was 38 then by 42 he was nw6.

That I know for sure rarely happens. Most likely he started losing it years ago but the process can be so slow for some people that there wont be any cosmetic difference for decades. So they are thinking that they have no hairloss but in reality they just havent lost enough to notice it yet and sometimes have been losing hair for over a decade very slowly but still be able to maintain the appearance of a full head of hair.

 

[BetaBoy]

Really. Senescent alopecia follows a male pattern baldness like pattern sometimes. There is conflict between researchers about is there really such a thing a such senescent alopecia or it is late male pattern baldness.

I think the community are going to need to see some supporting material for these claims tbh. I personally have never seen any article in recent times proposing that cellular senescence could cause patterned alopecia. In fact this study (SciHub link) thoroughly challenges the notion that senescence plays any part in alopecia, from their findings they make the conclusion that the "most significant hair loss in the elderly is androgen driven".

 

[abcdefg]

I think the community are going to need to see some supporting material for these claims tbh. I personally have never seen any article in recent times proposing that cellular senescence could cause patterned alopecia. In fact this study (SciHub link) thoroughly challenges the notion that senescence plays any part in alopecia, from their findings they make the conclusion that the "most significant hair loss in the elderly is androgen driven".

I agree. There is a huge piece of informal casual evidence all around us. Women. Look at the amount of women at 50 or even 60 years old with amazing Norwood 1 hairlines and a lot of times even almost no density loss. How could this even be possible if it was some kind of cellular aging? Women are immune to cellular aging in their hair? Nonsense. Its specific to men and hormones are a pretty big difference. Its hormone driven - androgens. Its one of the biggest most obvious pieces of evidence there is. Why do men lose so much hair at older ages? Women arent! (most anyway)
If only we could safely actually stop androgens without screwing up neurosteroids or all this other crap.

 

[abcdefg]

If you can make it up to 50 then you will be safe for life unless age releted senescent alopecia hits you .

I think its nonsense. The issue is we dont have an answer to the very fundamental question of why does hair become sensitive to androgens in the first place? Sensitivity increases with age hamilton proved this. Androgen levels dont matter its the sensitivity that changes and causes male pattern baldness to start even at older ages. It could be anything.
Whatever causes sensitivity it certainly doesnt effect women to the same extent it effects men which makes me doubt its some inherent cellular aging that everyone would experience

 

[Mandar kumthekar]

What about cellular aging or DNA damage by androgens over time? Few people cannot stand in storm of androgens ,some can for a good amount of time.some can stand for entire life.