Is There Any Hope For Future Hair Loss Treatments?

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I think something new will make it eventually, but I mean stuff like CB is like 5 years away. That is a pretty long time if you dont live forever. So the issue of how long its going to be to actually get something is up in the air.
There were many articles after PGD 2 discovery saying male pattern baldness will be cured in 2 years which was more then 2 years ago. Its hard to take any news seriously after a while when this forums has news from 10 years ago about the latest oil or potion that was a big breakthrough to cure male pattern baldness.
 

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As long as money can be made with temporary solutions, and Hair Transplants (also temporary), than no.

People are just too greedy. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking with it!

I would have thought that hair transplant surgeons would do more business if they could:

1) Find a way to get more grafts (cloning?) -That would result in more business, no graft restriction/don't need to turn patients away
2) Stablise hair - gives people the confidence to go ahead with a transplant knowing it won't look out of place in the future.

Therefore, if greed is the motivator, then there's plenty of reasons to find better treatments. It's a win win for everyone.
 

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I suppose feeling like a eunuch for the better part of the year to move back to almost NW1 would even be worth it if there was no permanent (or severely unhealthy) side effects.

This is almost where I'm at, but it's a big risk of permanent sides with no guarantee that it will work. At least we should be able to maintain without sides in a few years between CB and replicel.
 

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This is almost where I'm at, but it's a big risk of permanent sides with no guarantee that it will work. At least we should be able to maintain without sides in a few years between CB and replicel.
Or brotzu's lotion.
 

Ashkan63

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hair loss is an auto immune disorder how do you expect a cure out there while more important disease in this category like asthma ,MS ,etc have not been cured yet,immune system is the most complicated sustem in the body and just recently some progress have been done in understanding them ,personally i think there will be a cure but not as soon as some of us think
 

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This is almost where I'm at, but it's a big risk of permanent sides with no guarantee that it will work. At least we should be able to maintain without sides in a few years between CB and replicel.

Maintenance "in a few years" isn't going to mean much to me, because if my hair deteriorates much more it will look too shitty to have it unshaved, and at that point I don't really care anymore. I need maintenance right now (and some regrowth).

Unfortunately I don't maintain on finasteride and I get sides from it so I'm limited as far as treatments go.
I would take the risk on estrogens and CPA but I already get mild gyno from finasteride.
 

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Regarding hair cloning/replication, like what Dr.Tsuji is working on: I wonder if the hair germs will carry with them the ageing and damage characteristics of the original hair, or if they will start life again? Dolly the sheep was cloned from an adult sheep but did not inherit aged characteristics if you get what I mean.

I wonder if there's anything from medical literature and cloning of other organs which could tell us more.

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On Dolly the sheep:

On 14 February 2003, Dolly was euthanisedbecause she had a progressive lung disease and severe arthritis.[14] A Finn Dorset such as Dolly has a life expectancy of around 11 to 12 years, but Dolly lived 6.5 years. A post-mortem examination showed she had a form of lung cancer called Jaagsiekte,[15] which is a fairly common disease of sheep and is caused by the retrovirus JSRV.[16] Roslin scientists stated that they did not think there was a connection with Dolly being a clone, and that other sheep in the same flock had died of the same disease.[14] Such lung diseases are a particular danger for sheep kept indoors, and Dolly had to sleep inside for security reasons.

Some in the press speculated that a contributing factor to Dolly's death was that she could have been born with a genetic age of six years, the same age as the sheep from which she was cloned.[17] One basis for this idea was the finding that Dolly's telomereswere short, which is typically a result of theageing process.[18][19] The Roslin Institute stated that intensive health screening did not reveal any abnormalities in Dolly that could have come from advanced aging.[17]

Hmm so it seems a bit up in the air. But the fact that Dolly was born a normal calf might suggest that cloned hairs would break through as 'young' hairs. Whether they would age normally or faster remains to be seen I guess. Would like to know others thoughts.
 
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Maintenance "in a few years" isn't going to mean much to me, because if my hair deteriorates much more it will look too shitty to have it unshaved, and at that point I don't really care anymore. I need maintenance right now (and some regrowth).

Unfortunately I don't maintain on finasteride and I get sides from it so I'm limited as far as treatments go.
I would take the risk on estrogens and CPA but I already get mild gyno from finasteride.

I know the feeling. I'm in the same boat. No gyno, but I have put on wait. I'm hoping that is transient.
 

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I've noticed that it's harder to lose weight on finasteride. Not impossible, but harder. I have to eat maybe 50-100 kcal less per day to even it out. Maybe the lack of DHT and rise in estrogen causes a slowing of metabolism. I believe estrogen has a negative influence on thyroid function, so that could be a possible explanation.

My first course of action will be RU and then TM30089 (CRTH2 antagonist). If all that fails, then, uh... well I hope it never comes to this point!
 

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I've noticed that it's harder to lose weight on finasteride. Not impossible, but harder. I have to eat maybe 50-100 kcal less per day to even it out. Maybe the lack of DHT and rise in estrogen causes a slowing of metabolism. I believe estrogen has a negative influence on thyroid function, so that could be a possible explanation.

My first course of action will be RU and then TM30089 (CRTH2 antagonist). If all that fails, then, uh... well I hope it never comes to this point!

haha Get hair or grow tits trying.
 

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The future of male pattern baldness is spending 200 a month on 4 different over priced products that each work a little at keeping or growing some hair just to maintain what you have. Or maybe we will all be on finasteride 20 years from now and nothing at all ever progresses or changes. Its certainly possible ask the guys starting propecia 20 years ago if they predicted in 2016 we would still have minoxidil and propecia as only 2 things still.
 

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The future of male pattern baldness is spending 200 a month on 4 different over priced products that each work a little at keeping or growing some hair just to maintain what you have. Or maybe we will all be on finasteride 20 years from now and nothing at all ever progresses or changes. Its certainly possible ask the guys starting propecia 20 years ago if they predicted in 2016 we would still have minoxidil and propecia as only 2 things still.

You are basically talking about me.

TBH I did suspect (not predict, but suspect) there would be no major breakthrough.

Wanna know why?

Because, immediately after minoxidil and finasteride came out, it was visible to everyone that they were not "the cure" and that a real cure must be far far away if those two were the best they sold as a cure.

Why do I say it was apparent they were not the cure?
- because only a tiny fraction of the people I knew who started using min or finasteride improved their hair. Not my father, not my cousin (unrelated to my father), not my early 20s friends;
- because only a fraction of the people I knew who were using min or finasteride at least stopped hairloss (including the people I mentioned above)

We felt as if we had been dealt such incomplete products by the industry that we knew better then trusting them again soon...
 

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The future of male pattern baldness is spending 200 a month on 4 different over priced products that each work a little at keeping or growing some hair just to maintain what you have. Or maybe we will all be on finasteride 20 years from now and nothing at all ever progresses or changes. Its certainly possible ask the guys starting propecia 20 years ago if they predicted in 2016 we would still have minoxidil and propecia as only 2 things still.

:D Some of us already do that. I've spent thousands already.

Anyone who doubts we will have better treatments 20 years from now is the ultimate pessimist. Stem cell and genetic breakthroughs are happening at a rapid pace. Barring some sort of global catastrophe that halts medical progress, we will have a cure by 2040, no doubt.
 

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I agree there would not be a cure soon unless we are super lucky and something is discovered by chance while they are trying to treat asthma or cancer patients,but we might have better treatments like Jak inhibitors,i personally think they can be potentially a good treatment
 
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