It Is Almost 2017! Comment What You Guys Are Most Looking Forward To

Follisket

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The only thing I'm looking forward to is seeing what excuses balding men will come up with once everything falls through and what false hopes they'll cling to next just to avoid having to take action and break the taboo.

Anything to get through another year of looking like a diseased beta, amirite?
 

Folliman

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Why hasn't anyone mentioned Setipiprant phase IIA trial results in September?

There isn't too much happening in 2017, but I'm definitely hyped for 2018-2020. There will be follicular miracles, gentlemen! :D
 

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The only thing I'm looking forward to is seeing what excuses balding men will come up with once everything falls through and what false hopes they'll cling to next just to avoid having to take action and break the taboo.

Anything to get through another year of looking like a diseased beta, amirite?

LMAO And I thought I was a pessimist.
 

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The only thing I'm looking forward to is seeing what excuses balding men will come up with once everything falls through and what false hopes they'll cling to next just to avoid having to take action and break the taboo.

Anything to get through another year of looking like a diseased beta, amirite?

Bro get off this thread with that. Honestly.
 

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Nobody about follica? For me the most promising treatment...

No one knows what they're doing.

Cotsarelis is a weird one, I think his problem is that they keep discovering all this hair regrowth stuff, and he can't figure out what works and what doesn't and he's still tossing up what to put in the RAIN system.
 

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I'm not going to share it here as I have shared those articles probably about a half a dozen times on this site, but it was stated that Aderans' treatment could maintain hair but did not achieve the regrowth they desired. They stopped funding their hairloss research, but were willing to continue it if it were funded on someone else's dime.

Nobody ever did, though.

In some of those articles I shared, it had pointed out that the first successful hair regeneration experiments (in mice) were done in the 1970s. Many of the newer, promising treatments are promising not because they present tons of new information, but because they are actually being put to use.

I found the article. The weird thing is according to Aderans' presentation they did see hair growth of roughly 15% in the majority of patients and said that patients were still regrowing hair since the end of the trial.

The thing for me is that we barely know anything about how these companies tried to culture the dermal papilla cells, and as we've seen in studies, one wrong move can screw the whole thing up and next thing you know you've got dermal papilla cells that can't grow hair any more. I think you're right that they are trying something that's very similar and that can give us some information about future treatments, but I think it's difficult in a world where all most of the time all they tell us is that they're cloning one or two types of hair stem cells.
 

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The only thing I'm looking forward to is seeing what excuses balding men will come up with once everything falls through and what false hopes they'll cling to next just to avoid having to take action and break the taboo.

Anything to get through another year of looking like a diseased beta, amirite?

I'm looking forward to you being wrong and then seeing what excuses you defect to since you won't be able to blame baldness anymore.

Also, why are you even here?

I found the article. The weird thing is according to Aderans' presentation they did see hair growth of roughly 15% in the majority of patients and said that patients were still regrowing hair since the end of the trial.

The thing for me is that we barely know anything about how these companies tried to culture the dermal papilla cells, and as we've seen in studies, one wrong move can screw the whole thing up and next thing you know you've got dermal papilla cells that can't grow hair any more. I think you're right that they are trying something that's very similar and that can give us some information about future treatments, but I think it's difficult in a world where all most of the time all they tell us is that they're cloning one or two types of hair stem cells.

If they had continued their work and improve it, more than half of us wouldn't even be here right now.
 

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In 2017 I will be passively waiting news about SM, Replicel, Histogen ..(all the current casting). And I will be actively saving more money for a hair transplant that could happen in a few years, Just in case. You know what I mean..
 

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I found the article. The weird thing is according to Aderans' presentation they did see hair growth of roughly 15% in the majority of patients and said that patients were still regrowing hair since the end of the trial.

The thing for me is that we barely know anything about how these companies tried to culture the dermal papilla cells, and as we've seen in studies, one wrong move can screw the whole thing up and next thing you know you've got dermal papilla cells that can't grow hair any more. I think you're right that they are trying something that's very similar and that can give us some information about future treatments, but I think it's difficult in a world where all most of the time all they tell us is that they're cloning one or two types of hair stem cells.

Too bad the fat slugs that funded the project gave up and decided to sell wigs. Pathetic.
 

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Nobody about follica? For me the most promising treatment...

I am actually excited to hear news on this one personally--he's here in the States--only few hours from where I live.
My hair loss is not super bad and I am a woman and I wear my hair long--so something like this can be a good realistic option instead of a hair transplant in Japan in year 'god only knows when'.

The other thing I am looking forward to is Brotzu--I will fly to Italy and buy it myself if I have to.

Histogen--also..but more 'tentatively' excited because logistics..sounds like you have to fly to Mexico 3 times in 3 months. But if any of the guys on here have good results I would jump on that as well.

So
Foliica
brotzu
Histogen

In that order.
 

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Im waiting news from Takashi and Loreal next year, in Europe Loreal is a important company so im optimistic with them

I am interested in seeing how L'Oreal pans out as well, but I wouldn't expect any news from them next year. They said that they don't expect to achieve their goal of actually making a follicle for at least 2-3 years. I hope I am wrong, but it seems likely they won't have much to say.

I also do hope that Follica gives us an update on exactly what is going on with this "RAIN" stuff.
 

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My nightmare is that growing hair will become so prohibitively difficult that the industry refocuses on simply retarding and maintaining hair. Under that scenario, most never lose their hair (or lose very little) after intervention, and those of us who have lost hair are out of luck. Sure, most people would never know significant hair loss, but the rest of us would die bald.

Based on research like Jahoda's and Tsuji's it doesn't seem like there is any reason growing new hair would be prohibitively difficult. The epithelial cells are the biggest problem, but Organ tech said they have discovered potential solutions to this problem.

That being said, there will always be a bigger market for maintaining. I predict it will go in this order:

1. Cellular injections prevent balding men from balding further.
2. In 20 - 30 years, teenagers getting such treatments done before they start balding is commonplace.
3. 50+ years, genetic engineering eradicates Androgenetic Alopecia entirely.

I really think that the irony of these treatments we've been waiting since the dawn of time for is that they will be remembered as a flash in the pan in 100 years from now.
 

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Really? more than 50 years to take my hair back. I hope you are wroung hah

If you're referring to my comment, then no. With what I'm talking about it would not be practical for anyone already born (and balding) to receive that treatment.

My point is that treatments like Tsuji's (in developed countries) would likely be rendered largely obsolete after a few generations due to genetic engineering, unless that gets cockblocked by prudes in the government.
 

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hey fred , sorry to hijack the thread , but i have read on another forum that you got a drug induced gyno ( not by propecia) , was it because of an SSRI like seroplex ?
 

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It has been 20 years that we have been waiting for a treatment that can be deemed efficacious as "the big three".

I hope that the big three become the big four by the end of 2017. It would mean having 33.3% more power against hairloss. I could definitively be fine with that.
 
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