It Is Ridiculous That Dutasteride Is Not Approved For Hair Loss

[BaldyBalderBald]

2 years left and still not feeling it.

You're talking like it's a FACT that everybody gets depression on finasteride.

"Mean age of the subjects was 25.8(± 4.4) years. At baseline, mean BDI and HADS depression scores were 12.11(± 7.50) and 4.04(± 2.51), respectively. Finasteride treatment increased both BDI (p < 0.001) and HADS depression scores significantly (p = 0.005). HADS anxiety scores were increased, but the difference was not significant (p = 0.061)."

Almost.

Ironically finasteride CAN lead to depression, maybe we should take both

Oooh i choose my words wisely Persian, perhaps you should have done the same

Those 5AR inhibitor lovers...

 

[itsjustsimon]

Ironically finasteride CAN lead to depression, maybe we should take both

Oooh i choose my words wisely Persian, perhaps you should have done the same

Those 5AR inhibitor lovers...

At least you CAN hate those 5AR inhibitor lovers with your hair.

 

[BaldyBalderBald]

At least you CAN hate those 5AR inhibitor lovers with your hair.

Yeah with my NW3 finasteride saved hair, feeling like sh*t everyday, having hard times to maintain erection and no morning woods in 13 years, listening to people throwing biased datas to cope on the fact they sacrifice 70% of the most potent male hormone saying it's safe for a poor/moderate result.

Those 5AR are garbage from 30 years ago anyway, i'm just here to get off it with safer products, if you love so much 5AR and it kept your full head of hair, what are you even doing here ?

 

[nir7699]

Not every emotional problem can be fixed with psychiatric drugs and psychotherapy. low self esteem is a great deal, and if someone has it even before he starts to lose his hair, just imagine how it is after.
Transsexuals, for example, have a similar issue like some of us - they are not comfortable with their bodies. Today they get a chance to change it, and are not given psychiatric drugs anymore due to their self image. (Still, sadly, they go through heavy bureaucracy, i hope this bureaucracy and control over people bodies will end.)

 

[BaldyBalderBald]

Not every emotional problem can be fixed with psychiatric drugs and psychotherapy. low self esteem is a great deal, and if someone has it even before he starts to lose his hair, just imagine how it is after.
Transsexuals, for example, have a similar issue like some of us - they are not comfortable with their bodies. Today they get a chance to change it, and are not given psychiatric drugs anymore due to their self image. (Still, sadly, they go through heavy bureaucracy, i hope this bureaucracy and control over people bodies will end.)

40% suicide rates amoung transgenders MtF and FtM US citizens in the last 15 years, and unfortunately this data cannot be biased, it's from a national census report.Gender dysphoria is a severe psychiatric state.Even after they undergo their surgeries and hormone replacement therapies, nearly half of them still commit suicide.I'm not sure science have taken this issue the right way

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf

 

[itsjustsimon]

Yeah with my NW3 finasteride saved hair, feeling like sh*t everyday, having hard times to maintain erection and no morning woods in 13 years, listening to people throwing biased datas to cope on the fact they sacrifice 70% of the most potent male hormone saying it's safe for a poor/moderate result.

Those 5AR are garbage from 30 years ago anyway, i'm just here to get off it with safer products, if you love so much 5AR and it kept your full head of hair, what are you even doing here ?

You think I really love to be on Propecia for the rest of my hairy days? Nobody here does.

 

[nir7699]

Gender dysphoria is a severe psychiatric state.Even after they undergo their surgeries and hormone replacement therapies, nearly half of them still commit suicide.I'm not sure science have taken this issue the right way

What you're saying is enraging, considering that you haven't gone through this. The social humiliations, the need to prove what they already know about themselves, constantly coping with laughter and being mocked. Did it occurs to you that this is a great reason that wasn't taken into consideration when calculating the percentages of suicide among them? Suggesting so clearly that it's a psychiatric state that's even rude.

 

[BaldyBalderBald]

What you're saying is enraging, considering that you haven't gone through this. The social humiliations, the need to prove what they already know about themselves, constantly coping with laughter and being mocked. Did it occurs to you that this is a great reason that wasn't taken into consideration when calculating the percentages of suicide among them? Suggesting so clearly that it's a psychiatric state that's even rude.

I didn't invent this term personaly, neither those datas.Despite being in a PC ruled society, i have the right to express myself.
And to me, giving hormone remplacement therapy to childs who didn't even undergo puberty is what's truly enraging.How come a child can be able to judge any irreversible changes that this decision will produce on his life.I didn't mean to trigger anyone, just to express that 26% suicide rate increase from cis to transgenders people, whether its from humiliations or not, is alarming, i don't know.

Just know that amoung gay population during 60's,70's,80's,90's, never the suicide rate was so high, and they were having a tough humiliating life

 

[nir7699]

I didn't invent this term personaly, neither those datas.Despite being in a PC ruled society, i have the right to express myself.
And to me, giving hormone remplacement therapy to childs who didn't even undergo puberty is what's truly enraging.How come a child can be able to judge any irreversible changes that this decision will produce on his life.I didn't mean to trigger anyone, just to express that 26% suicide rate increase from cis to transgenders people, whether its from humiliations or not, is alarming, i don't know.

Just know that amoung gay population during 60's,70's,80's,90's, never the suicide rate was so high, and they were having a tough humiliating life

I was speaking about adults, of course children should be dealt differently (but not ignored and dismissed as having a mental problem either).
The data doesn't differ the reasons, it can not, because social rejection is a part of their whole life. Cannot be compared to gays who over go much less social rejection.

 

[BaldyBalderBald]

I was speaking about adults, of course children should be dealt differently (but not ignored and dismissed as having a mental problem either).
The data doesn't differ the reasons, it can not, because the social rejection is a part of their all life. Cannot be compared to gays who over go much less social rejection.

Didn't say dismissed, the opposite actually, followed by specialists in psychiatry and helped, not by endocrinologists
Gay males where chased and beaten to death, thrown by rooftops, their dicks choped off and stuffed in their mouths, still are in some countries actually.Anyway that's a never ending debate and this will trigger many people, i let it go

 

[Zoro]

How are you now? What norwood...

Hairline is at a NW1.5 but I have really bad diffuse thinning, my hair loss is stopped though. The regimen I'm on is probably as far as I'm willing to go, I don't want to inhibit testosterone so I'll probably get a hair transplant in the near future.

 

[LocoRoco]

Hairline is at a NW1.5 but I have really bad diffuse thinning, my hair loss is stopped though. The regimen I'm on is probably as far as I'm willing to go, I don't want to inhibit testosterone so I'll probably get a hair transplant in the near future.

I don't think inhibiting T would do anything either way... I heard, the variation in regrowth is limited at max limited to 2.5mg dutasteride anyway.
Won't be getting too much better than your current state anyway. Unless you opt for prp and stem cell (I think). Though even then I believe they might be limited solutions, what if their effect ran out? Would being on dutasteride be of any use? No idea :/

 

[LocoRoco]

Controlled substances like pain meds/opiates, ADD/ADHD meds like adderall, etc. basically drugs that are illegal to have without a prescription.

Why would it be considered illegal? Prescribing drugs for off-label use is done all the time, if you really can't find a doctor to prescribe it there was a website posted here called medical wellness center or something like that, you fill out a form and pay some fee and they'll send in a legit prescription to any pharmacy

Does this work worldwide? Cause I am in New Zealand and I don't know if their prescriptions would work here.

 

[Zoro]

I don't think inhibiting T would do anything either way... I heard, the variation in regrowth is limited at max limited to 2.5mg dutasteride anyway.
Won't be getting too much better than your current state anyway. Unless you opt for prp and stem cell (I think). Though even then I believe they might be limited solutions, what if their effect ran out? Would being on dutasteride be of any use? No idea :/

I don't know, I think my hair loss is so aggressive even testosterone causes some shedding, hence the added RU, but who knows. I highly doubt I will start losing again on dutasteride/RU though, although there's not a lot left to lose.

 

[Zoro]

Does this work worldwide? Cause I am in New Zealand and I don't know if their prescriptions would work here.

Not sure, haven't been on that site in a while.

 

[LocoRoco]

I don't know, I think my hair loss is so aggressive even testosterone causes some shedding, hence the added RU, but who knows. I highly doubt I will start losing again on dutasteride/RU though, although there's not a lot left to lose.

Hmm but T doesn't bind to androgen receptors on the hair follices... Strange

 

[LocoRoco]

I had an amazing transition until my hair loss started and depression set in as a result. I did in fact put myself in the hospital as a result of an attempted suicide and thankfully I failed. Had I known only a few years later, a switch to Dutasteride along with a minor hair transplant would have totally reversed it all I wouldn't have even tried. I had an amazing rebound after Dutasteride and honestly wouldn't be here right now had it not been for this drug. I once again have strong locks and a norwood 1 female hairline.

Can you please show us a pic of your NW1 hairline? As you know we sufferers are very curious

 

[Zoro]

Hmm but T doesn't bind to androgen receptors on the hair follices... Strange

Why wouldn't it? I haven't seen any evidence that says it doesn't (not saying you're wrong but I'm open to new information)

 

[michel sapin]

@ForeverLacey how much of your result do you attribute to dutasteride?
no minoxidil?

 

[michel sapin]

wow that is crazy regrowth !
finasteride fail for you ?