Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[hairblues]

This is just a summation, nothing new / no inside information.

He actually said something that made me realize there was something I am not sure about.

When Brotzu said this works better in young men and people with less than 5 years of hair loss--was that specific to hair regrowth? or continued hair loss as well? I mean is it still an alternative for some of us who cant take Propecia/finasteride who are also older and/or had more than 5 years of loss..(men who are sensitive to the sideband women)

Appreciate if anyone knows. To be honest I have some okay regrowth with Minoxidil to slow down loss as some get with Propecia would be huge for me.

 

[spring15]

The emotional stability of everyone in this thread

 

[DoctorHouse]

The emotional stability of everyone in this thread

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Maybe this might be better example: For some they are acting like this:

And some like this:

And some may be like this:

 

[GiveMeAccessToMyAccount]

I posted the screenshot on the replicel thread... H2 means second half of 2018. This was changed to Q2 which means that they are really confident and to launch this product in mid 2018. This means if everything goes well the product will be launched between April-June 2018.

Great. I just hope no one jinxes it with a "Replicel To Hit The Market in Q2 2018" thread, with 450 pages of people asking when is it coming out and the thread spans into 2019 with no product.

 

[GiveMeAccessToMyAccount]

What bums me out is that even if this does come out soon, and even if (more importantly) it is a legit, powerful treatment, it possibly won't work much, if at all, for old dudes like me who have been balding for a decade and a half. It was said it works better on guys under 30 or guys (or gals?) who've been balding for less than 5 years.

If this thread turns into all you young'ns hooting and hollering in orgasmic glee at your arrested hair loss it's gonna be a bitter pill. I will still be happy for others but the cosmic injustice I would feel would be tough.

Honestly, some are in denial about this, but the reality is that you are the market that matters most. You're the type of hair loss sufferer that if something comes out for you, that would be a cure.

People say a "maintenance" treatment is enough, but for a hair loss treatment to get universal praise it would have to turn an NW7 into an NW1. Not instantly, but with time, from NW7 to 6, from 6 to 5, 5 to 4, etc. gradually.

It's all about perspective though. People with no alopecia areata say f*** aa cures, people that maintenance would be pointless for because there's no hair to maintain, say f*** a maintenance treatment. Finally, people who or low on the Norwood stage and maintaining is enough, will say f*** growing back hair all I need is to maintain what I have.

In every part of the spectrum of hair loss there are people who don't care about another specific group of hair loss sufferers. Just goes to show how selfish people are. Personally I am diffused and NW2 and want a f*****g cure, not maintaining, I want regrowth, I want NW7's to get their god dam hair back because that means that the drug would definitely get my hair back. A legit treatment for an NW7 is the treatment for every Norwood.

 

[hanginginthewire]

Honestly, some are in denial about this, but the reality is that you are the market that matters most. You're the type of hair loss sufferer that if something comes out for you, that would be a cure.

People say a "maintenance" treatment is enough, but for a hair loss treatment to get universal praise it would have to turn an NW7 into an NW1. Not instantly, but with time, from NW7 to 6, from 6 to 5, 5 to 4, etc. gradually.

It's all about perspective though. People with no alopecia areata say f*** aa cures, people that maintenance would be pointless for because there's no hair to maintain, say f*** a maintenance treatment. Finally, people who or low on the Norwood stage and maintaining is enough, will say f*** growing back hair all I need is to maintain what I have.

In every part of the spectrum of hair loss there are people who don't care about another specific group of hair loss sufferers. Just goes to show how selfish people are. Personally I am diffused and NW2 and want a f*****g cure, not maintaining, I want regrowth, I want NW7's to get their god dam hair back because that means that the drug would definitely get my hair back. A legit treatment for an NW7 is the treatment for every Norwood.

Lol, you are exactly right. Even in my post I added the "happy for you" as an afterthought.

I never gave much thought to balding until I realized it was happening to me. I knew balding and bald men probably wished they weren't, but I figured it was a minor, "that's too bad" problem. The fact that so many of us are truly suffering with this disease never occurred to me.

 

[livinginfear93]

Is there any way they can say this lotion at least halts hair loss with such short trials? I mean couldn't it come off as a maintenance treatment but basically be another version of minoxidil?

 

[Royaume]

Is there any way they can say this lotion at least halts hair loss with such short trials? I mean couldn't it come off as a maintenance treatment but basically be another version of minoxidil?

Only fidias trial lasted a year I think. Beps and some others are using this lotion for more than about 4 years if I remember correctly?

Since it is a well known company the will publish their trial results, so it gets very clear in terms of efficacy and maintenance.

 

[livinginfear93]

Only fidias trial lasted a year I think. Beps and some others are using this lotion for more than about 4 years if I remember correctly?

Since it is a well known company the will publish their trial results, so it gets very clear in terms of efficacy and maintenance.

preciate it. so these results will be available at some point no matter how effective it is?

 

[Royaume]

For those of you who didn't read the original patent. It's not new but I think there are still some users who did not see these results:

 

[The 7TH Sense]

preciate it. so these results will be available at some point no matter how effective it is?

We hope so. FIDIA is very professional and I understand its silence. We only have one old leakage of Beps, in case you forgot:

all the subjects of Fidia trial, he stopped losing hair. This month they must control how big is the regrowth

 

[Spanishboy97]

Is there any particular reason for not being shedding in the brotzu results? Both finasteride and minoxidil usually give shedding the first months

 

[GiveMeAccessToMyAccount]

For those of you who didn't read the original patent. It's not new but I think there are still some users who did not see these results:

More like read, there's nothing to actually see there. I mean technically yes, i'm seeing text, but in the context of seeing results, people say that when there's photographic evidence to "see". This is more like "reading" results.

 

[BTW]

Is there any particular reason for not being shedding in the brotzu results? Both finasteride and minoxidil usually give shedding the first months

we have no way of knowing about this and it's useless to speculate

 

[Royaume]

More like read, there's nothing to actually see there. I mean technically yes, i'm seeing text, but in the context of seeing results, people say that when there's photographic evidence to "see". This is more like "reading" results.

Nope, for the majority its better to read results. If you see results, you are the first one who shouts: COMBOVER trick, photoshop, bad quality...

Believe me... It's better for you. Always complaining. We really should be thankful for the information that we already have from beps and other users. We really should accept it and we should stop crying about evidence. Brotzu answered many questions in different interviews. They cannot show you photos... I think we've said that for the 10000th time. NOT P O S S I B L E right now because of rights. What we have are the patent results, doctors interview and beps information.

I am sure that there are users who did not see this page from the patent. If you already read this then it's okay... No problem at all. If this is new for you and you still have the opiniion that it's not really helpful (majority of users here are exactly like that) then I don't really understand you guys.

just be thankful and appreciate the work. The 7thsense informed us about the new interview and what was the reaction?? "AND WHAT ARE THE NEWS" ? Very typical for many users here...

 

[hanginginthewire]

Not to piss you off but it doesn't make sense to me that they can give interviews and publish information but a couple of pictures is verboten? Maybe this document that you provided here was before the lotion was purchased though? (Sigh). I don't know - reading the tea leaves of these prospective treatments is exhausting, and probably pointless. Thank you for posting that excerpt though, I had not seen it before.

 

[GiveMeAccessToMyAccount]

Nope, for the majority its better to read results. If you see results, you are the first one who shouts: COMBOVER trick, photoshop, bad quality...

Believe me... It's better for you. Always complaining. We really should be thankful for the information that we already have from beps and other users. We really should accept it and we should stop crying about evidence. Brotzu answered many questions in different interviews. They cannot show you photos... I think we've said that for the 10000th time. NOT P O S S I B L E right now because of rights. What we have are the patent results, doctors interview and beps information.

I am sure that there are users who did not see this page from the patent. If you already read this then it's okay... No problem at all. If this is new for you and you still have the opiniion that it's not really helpful (majority of users here are exactly like that) then I don't really understand you guys.

just be thankful and appreciate the work. The 7thsense informed us about the new interview and what was the reaction?? "AND WHAT ARE THE NEWS" ? Very typical for many users here...

I read a lot of "you" here. I'm assuming with this post that you have some form of psychological segregation between yourself and "your kind" and other members who ask questions about the product?

It appears to me like you are in some imaginary war against members who aren't 100% convinced about this, but are still interested, and just want to see if this really works.

You mention 7th Sense, he's very hostile and I skip his posts because it appears he gets very emotional about people asking questions about this lotion and male pattern baldness, I know he's some kind of god to you though. You seemed to have been triggered as well. The truth is, you showed a text of a vague study that says "this many people saw hair loss stopped" etc. Very vague and if that study was supposed to be some kind of "booya" moment in your eyes, i'm here as a neutral spectator who wants this to work and be real and i'm telling you, no, that was not a "in your face" moment.

"If you see results, you are the first one who shouts: COMBOVER trick, photoshop, bad quality..."

You, you, you...but what results do you speak of, why do you assume that the "you's" of the forum would react that way to photographic evidence? That's a weak argument. We've seen a picture of like, one girl with alopecia areata get some hair back, and you want to take the reaction to that picture from people with male pattern baldness as a golden opportunity to say that people will always complain about pictures?

"For the majority it's better to "read" results"

Do you have statistical evidence backing up this claim? How did you measure how people prefer to get their results of male pattern baldness treatments efficacy? Why do you say the majority prefer to read text instead of see before and photos?

 

[br1]

Nope, for the majority its better to read results. If you see results, you are the first one who shouts: COMBOVER trick, photoshop, bad quality...

Believe me... It's better for you. Always complaining. We really should be thankful for the information that we already have from beps and other users. We really should accept it and we should stop crying about evidence. Brotzu answered many questions in different interviews. They cannot show you photos... I think we've said that for the 10000th time. NOT P O S S I B L E right now because of rights. What we have are the patent results, doctors interview and beps information.

I am sure that there are users who did not see this page from the patent. If you already read this then it's okay... No problem at all. If this is new for you and you still have the opiniion that it's not really helpful (majority of users here are exactly like that) then I don't really understand you guys.

just be thankful and appreciate the work. The 7thsense informed us about the new interview and what was the reaction?? "AND WHAT ARE THE NEWS" ? Very typical for many users here...

Problem is when the data/result report uses "good", "excellent", "fair" as unit of measurement for the efficacy.

 

[DVXYZ]

Hey guys! New member here but i've been reading through some of the recent stuff. So what do you think are the chances of this being released by Q1 2018?

 

[GiveMeAccessToMyAccount]

Not to piss you off but it doesn't make sense to me that they can give interviews and publish information but a couple of pictures is verboten? Maybe this document that you provided here was before the lotion was purchased though? (Sigh). I don't know - reading the tea leaves of these prospective treatments is exhausting, and probably pointless. Thank you for posting that excerpt though, I had not seen it before.

Lol the defenders are so hostile, that they have people conditioned to start with this in the bold, and treading lightly around the hornets nest, to bring up a legitimate question. Like why do they have to get pissed off in the first place? Is this a forum for discussion and questions or it a gang territory? lol.

Member: Can I see pictures?
Brotzu defender: How dare you!