Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[hairloss_user]

Just shave it already you ugly goblin. Save what dignity you have left.

Keep going like this if you want to get banned.

 

[dermrafok]

Just shave it already you ugly goblin. Save what dignity you have left.

Get another job. A PhD for example.

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

Please don't feed the troll. Ignore him and he will feel bored and leave. finasteride really causes mental sides, I will never take 0.000000000000000001 mg.

 

[hairloss_user]

Ok - Is this on their homepage somewhere or the conference website? I must have missed that.

Not sure. Just been mentioned here several times.

 

[dermrafok]

Keep going like this if you want to get banned.

He will be banned again.

 

[Clockwise]

What are the facts at this point?

We know that there is a lotion developed by an older (experienced, reputable?) physician. He is no expert in the field but noticed results while experimenting with patients in a completely unrelated field (diabetes). This is not uncommon - both known medications against hair loss - minoxidil and finasteride - were initially developed for something else as well.

He approached an Italian Pharma company with the results.

It was the first(?) (and only?) company he contacted (that's not really a fact because he didn't say it himself as far as I know).

They bought the rights for the lotion from him and funded further studies. Last year this company anounced that they will bring a product to market in 2018. The studies have been completed and they patented the formula. I think this happened in March 2018. In the patent they describe excellent results. (I could be wrong here and they already patented it after getting the rights).

This week the doctor who developed the original formula is going to present the results of Fidia's studies. (I am not sure if "the results from Fidia's studies" is a fact or some hearsay). He already talked about the mechanics of the lotion at a congress (quote?). So there has to be some new and positive results. The talk this week is specifically aimed at androgenic alopecia.

Fidia hasn't anounced anything beyond that yet - not a release date and not their participitation in the conference. I'd say it's safe to assume that Fidia either wants the doctor to attend or at least doesn't mind. Even if he were not to show Fidia's results but his own, some kind of NDA would prevent him from doing so after he sold the formula.

Another fact is that the doctor has made claims regarding the efficiacy of the lotion in the past in official interviews.

And I think it public knowledge that Fidia had stabilisation problems with the formula that prevented them from already marketing the product. We don't know for a fact that they have solved these problems.

It's a fact that the science behind it is sound but this doesn't mean it's going to work.


That's about it without any speculation. Is this something we all can agree on?

The stabilisation problems are solved.

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

He will be banned again.

Whats the name of his previous account?

 

[dermrafok]

None. I was never here. You can ask a mod, I don’t hide behind vpn like you do when you watch tranny p*rn. I am the savior of this forum and these tortured souls. You seen nobody type like me and certainly the information I presented for Finasteride is unique. Food for thought.

A person who does not know what pearson's chi-square test is, or even the meaning of meta-analysis that is the savior of this forum? Forget it. Finasteride is obsolete. Your time and Finasteride is over. Do not waste your "strength".

 

[Arrade]

None. I was never here. You can ask a mod, I don’t hide behind vpn like you do when you watch tranny p*rn. I am the savior of this forum and these tortured souls. You seen nobody type like me and certainly the information I presented for Finasteride is unique. Food for thought.

When poor Br1 gets banned but not this guy

 

[dermrafok]

When poor Br1 gets banned but not this guy

Don't worry.

 

[d3nt3dsh0v3l]

Just shave it already you ugly goblin. Save what dignity you have left.

Wasn't this retard banned?

Guess you learned nothing, not that I'm surprised. You don't seem like the learning type, or the listening type, or coming to think of it, you don't even seem like a decent human being.

I gleefully look forward to the moment when (not if, but when) you are banned permanently.

 

[Alternative]

Can't you guys see @dangerous_business probably just at a bad time of his life and is yearning to have some dopamine spikes through replies from users.

If this gives him dopamine, he definitely lack experience in life.

 

[acbrantlin]

If you guys think it's bad now, imagine how many scum are going to pop out of the woodwork and start posting their long-winded variations of "I told you so" after the presentation doesn't show any groundbreaking treatment. At least though once that happens, there will be no reason to come back to this thread anyway.

 

[dermrafok]

If you guys think it's bad now, imagine how many scum are going to pop out of the woodwork and start posting their long-winded variations of "I told you so" after the presentation doesn't show any groundbreaking treatment. At least though once that happens, there will be no reason to come back to this thread anyway.

He will be banned anyway.

 

[Ollie]

Just when we thought jumanji was annoying

 

[Jonnyyy]

Why would anyone ban you for being against my saying? You being annoyed by my facts is nothing to be ashamed of. I present information that nobody in this forum has, ever. And nobody cares. People just bash, insult and then go to their daily threads of interest: snake oils, mtf success stories and “how to cope with being a beta”.

Shut the f*** up, your "facts" are you stating that the lotion can't provide results because it's a topical, you're clearly an uneducated batch of c*m. It's a shame that your dads load contained 1 billion cells and the baldest and probably dumbest one came out.

 

[Toby0823]

If you guys think it's bad now, imagine how many scum are going to pop out of the woodwork and start posting their long-winded variations of "I told you so" after the presentation doesn't show any groundbreaking treatment. At least though once that happens, there will be no reason to come back to this thread anyway.

You call them scum, they call you delusional. Once news breakout of another wasted hype, the delusionals will jump on another snake oil hair formula and say sh*t like “well this is different, the science makes sense. The release date will be 2yrs, I will now pay someone’s plane ticket and fly them out to japan for the convention.

 

[Toby0823]

Shut the f*** up, your "facts" are you stating that the lotion can't provide results because it's a topical, you're clearly an uneducated batch of c*m. It's a shame that your dads load contained 1 billion cells and the baldest and probably dumbest one came out.

Haha you’re so mad, I can’t imagine how mad you’ll be once you find out this Italian hair lotion is just another hoax.

You’re mad he doesn’t think this lotion will work. So I assume you think it’ll work. After the announcement in a few days I’ll be sure to come back and see what you think then.

 

[NW2.5372846]

What are the facts at this point?

We know that there is a lotion developed by an older (experienced, reputable?) physician. He is no expert in the field but noticed results while experimenting with patients in a completely unrelated field (diabetes). This is not uncommon - both known medications against hair loss - minoxidil and finasteride - were initially developed for something else as well.

He approached an Italian Pharma company with the results.

It was the first(?) (and only?) company he contacted (that's not really a fact because he didn't say it himself as far as I know).

They bought the rights for the lotion from him and funded further studies. Last year this company anounced that they will bring a product to market in 2018. The studies have been completed and they patented the formula. I think this happened in March 2018. In the patent they describe excellent results. (I could be wrong here and they already patented it after getting the rights).

This week the doctor who developed the original formula is going to present the results of Fidia's studies. (I am not sure if "the results from Fidia's studies" is a fact or some hearsay). He already talked about the mechanics of the lotion at a congress (quote?). So there has to be some new and positive results. The talk this week is specifically aimed at androgenic alopecia.

Fidia hasn't anounced anything beyond that yet - not a release date and not their participitation in the conference. I'd say it's safe to assume that Fidia either wants the doctor to attend or at least doesn't mind. Even if he were not to show Fidia's results but his own, some kind of NDA would prevent him from doing so after he sold the formula.

Another fact is that the doctor has made claims regarding the efficiacy of the lotion in the past in official interviews.

And I think it public knowledge that Fidia had stabilisation problems with the formula that prevented them from already marketing the product. We don't know for a fact that they have solved these problems.

It's a fact that the science behind it is sound but this doesn't mean it's going to work.


That's about it without any speculation. Is this something we all can agree on?

Now this is a constructive post. And everything is correct except that the stabilization issue is solved.

 

[Ollie]

You call them scum, they call you delusional. Once news breakout of another wasted hype, the delusionals will jump on another snake oil hair formula and say sh*t like “well this is different, the science makes sense. The release date will be 2yrs, I will now pay someone’s plane ticket and fly them out to japan for the convention.

Name another topical that was promised that even resembled this situation