Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

Manolo75

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you may want to try adding zinc sulfate to that as well. I mix zinc sulfate and b6 (p5p), and it has kept me from going bald for 12 years.

Im eager to use brotzu's lotion though, to encourage some regrowth.
You have a good résults With this mix ??
If yes why not i çan try ...
One by one or all in the Same lotion ..?
 

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Manolo75, stop your stupid triple and quadruple posts, this is sol fu***** annoying.
 

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A "problem" might also mean that there is some minor delay, nothing more. Maybe they simply don´t have the production facilities to produce a product which is gonna sell about a million times ED......
 

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Il every project we have a lot of unexpected its the Life ...

If the lotion work its ok ... With a small delay or not ...

i repeat again this lotion çan be a good solution for people afraid about minoxidil and finasteride side effects ..

I follow one of the best forum about this lotion if they have any information i take it and i post it here we have the Time ... Before this lotion is available so we çan speak here before ...

Have a Nice day to all positively and negatively people
 

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A summary copied from the Italian forum of the guy who is supposed to be in the Fidia trial:

Usually daily summary on the information so far provided by beps63:

Beps63:
Product speak.
The product was created by chance, taking over a number of years to determine the right proportions to make efficient and effective product. The composition to be used for man was the last to be defined. Know that have been studied different liposomes with different polarities. All this took time.
The lotion acts quickly to stop the fall, the cases treated say that in about 3/4 weeks stops the fall.It engages a hair reinforcement in place, including the vellus that slowly turn into hair (it takes more than one year). The new hair regrowth is slower unfortunately, around the 3rd month are noted on the skin growths; are new hair growing.
Know that there are variables, one is the age of the subject, how long will the hair is lost and the aggressiveness of baldness.
Know that to enter a new lotion you have to respect the legislation concerning the market which unfortunately are long, need some months. They are carrying out these obligations.
I do not know the terms of the marketing.
I've said too much
Greetings

artiglio5825 wrote:
Photos of some Agato you can see?
Beps63:
Here we have focused on AA, the Androgenetic Alopecia have the product at no charge, but not they are cataloged. In any case, confidentiality agreements were signed. In November will be published for the first time on the AA data to the Turin conference.

Account_01 wrote:
you're referring to cases of ALOPECIA ANDROGENETIC MEN?
Beps63:
male Androgenetic Alopecia, considering that I try it on my head every day.
P: S: I imagine that more than one would like to be in my place, I had solved rasandomi

Beps63:
the vellus is the hair of infants (those born bald), which takes about two years to become hair. Many of you have become atrophic hair vellus.

Beps63:
The lotion and do not give me the trial sull'Androgenetic Alopecia, so here sull'Androgenetic Alopecia photos do not exist, with the exception of a study on women two years ago. I recovered more than one degree of baldness, it will recover more.

De Sade wrote:
I understand, by a user, the product of Fidia has been changed since the first version of Brotzu in 2015, this is true?
Beps63:
They added preservatives. the rest is identical

Beps63:
I was killing of questions.
I am 50 years old when I started using the lotion I had a fifth classification. I lost my hair slowly, but by 38 I started to shave. I've never used it Finasteride Minoxidil it. In a nutshell unlike you I had given up the problem.
Currently I have almost reached a classification 4, but considering how I vellus both vertex than the front be able to have a classification within 2 years 3.
My vertex was smooth and had a diameter of 9cm, currently is less than 4cm in diameter, now the vertex is practically covered with vellus which in many cases has the portion close to the dark color of the skin, others are dark for half. Simply put, slowly back my hair.
The declaration on the recovery is real, I too have had similar timing.
The experiments sull'Androgenetic Alopecia male and female, are doing to the northern Italy.
The use of fine or other during the trial is grounds for exclusion.
I initially used the experimental lotion, then recently since I started the trial I went to industrial.
I am not a technician, I have now mastered, but please stop me complicated questions, are not so prepared.
about me and the people who used it, it worked well and without complications.
I thank those who keep giving liar.

Beps63:
to explain what you will hear in mind:
the first few times you use the lotion feel heat, that is the microcirculation You tends to be reactivated.
After a few months They tap the skull, feel growths, to the touch look like pimples, new hair will come from them.
They are very I use this lotion and still feel these growths.
in short, they are one of the guinea pigs on which it was developed the product.
For someone will horns, but they blame and partner instead of lotion.

bridge wrote:
Thanks beps! A key one question ...
Do you know if some testers have reported sexual sides because dell'equolo?
Beps63:
There were no sides.

Dante12 wrote:
Beps, I think, and I sincerely hope you're not a troll, although, as I'm concerned, I did not need further confirmation of the effectiveness of the treatment, after the phone call I had with Dr. Brotzu ...
I would like to ask you some domande..da how long you use it? apply it every day? and from the aesthetic point of view, greasy? dries quickly?
Do you know anything then of possible output in January?
And thank you for the information we're giving ...
Beps63:
not greasy dries in 15-20 minutes. I apply it every day. I started in the first experimental group, but only stopped falling, then it evolved

derix977 wrote:
Beps Sorry, I did not understand what you mean when you say that a trial of Androgenetic Alopecia and that there are not going to make foto.Come understand the degree of improvement and the initial situation if you do not make pictures periodically?
Maybe I do not understand it, someone has the answer?
Beps63:
I have access to the photos of AA, while I do not have access to the photos of Androgenetic Alopecia. I did not say that there are no pictures.
The Prof was not interested Androgenetic Alopecia, then did not do pictures.

snowblack89 wrote:
guys, but if one has atrophied bulbs for years, where do you think they can grow hair? we are talking about a topical, no transplantation or cloning etc. If the bulbs are dead can not be resurrected.
if it blocks the fall of everything and you recover you can think of a transplant that was to remain stable due to the lotion. (all this of course with the benefit of the doubt)
Beps63:
You have it all figured out.
Used to young people.
Use it for those like me 5A need to understand the extent to which the lotion works and how many degrees of baldness can be recovered. The basis of the research is to understand the extent to which the product works.
From 5A to 4 are not 1 2 degrees
Observe the Norwood chart

S7E841 wrote:
Beps we start from the fact that I'm very happy of your availability ..
But if I can afford?! What made you change your mind or way of ports giving us a lot of information that maybe even you could give us?
Someone gave you the green light at least within the limits?
I'm sorry it's my curiosity ..
I thank you anyway :)
Beps63:
You were saying a lot of ..... f*** you.
I literally lost my temper.
I understand that by law the test must last for at least 6 months.
Example: the product expires one year should be kept on the shelf for one year before you can put on sale. There are also exceptions, but do not know them. The rules are a cas ... no.
Imagine that convenience has a firm hold in a product that can give a strong profitability, should not, but it must by law.
For all the conspiracy theorists, thanked the EU laws, I am a disaster .

account_01 wrote:
but it is his invention, however beps, I did not understand a thing, you suffer the Androgenetic Alopecia, and why then you have access to photos of AA?
Beps63:
I make him computer assistance in de dermatoscope software

snowblack89 wrote:
Beps a question that i wanted to make is this, the doctor said at the time that initially the lotion was applied daily after which you could even switch to a weekly maintenance, what do you say about that?
Beps63:
After a period of attack (lotion every day ) it can be estimated that the mass of hair is sufficient. In this case only it serves to prevent our dihydrotestosterone resume to make us lose hair.Maintenance is a set of applications a week for 2 to 3 to avoid losing hair but keep the hair that you have.

Mr.blushine wrote:
After 17 days of application:
1) nn longer feel the slight itching of the first applications
2 ) the lotion tends to slip through the body, it should be spread rapidly (quickly absorbed)
3) every 3 days or so I'm noticing the leakage of a sketch / pimple shed. Nn know if it depends on the lotion.
4) I have many vellus that known nn be changed much
5) sides, nada de nada
Beps63:
The bumps as you call them are new hair. For years, I seem to have pimples on his head, but in the end are always new hair. Before you can call the stuff that grows hair, you will need to wait at least a year

S7E841 wrote:
What do you mean Beps that are years that you feel like pimples? Excuse me how long is that apply?
I have a question a bit 'for all .. who uses fine and are noticing improvements with the lotion?
Beps63:
When the Prof did the first tests, I was hired as a tester.
I saw all the product developments, including the final one (the final one is younger than 2 years)

Jake Chambers wrote:
beps Hello, I have a request, if possible, you describe exactly how to apply the lotion? That is, you do it in the morning or evening, after showering? Or indiscriminately during the day as it happens? Also how much of it applies (how many atomized). And then, now that you are doing the maintenance (I think) how many times a week you put it?
Thank
Beps63:
The lotion that now use is one made by fidia, which is identical to the last Prof. lotion That Fidia has preservatives that of Prof. not.
I put half an hour every night before going to sleep, so it dries.
Do not I wash the hair before, although in theory it would be better. (Marseille soap). I have short hair, most are long more they consume.
I do not have a nebulizer but a drip system. Load the dispenser with approximately 1 ml of lotion and put a few drops and spando his finger.
They are still under attack, I want to retrieve other 2 degrees and then I will only maintain

turiddruzzu wrote:
Beps could you tell us what preservatives are there? Other than beps dinner at this time Let us listen from your lips ahahahahahah a dinner everyone
Beps63:
I do not know. One of the many preservatives that are used for these products, and also in feeding

zimmerman wrote:
it would be nice to know if beps is aware of the type of changes between one version and the other, I mean if substantial sonostate or devices of that type .
Beps63:
the percentages of the other ingredients have been modified to be able to have the most efficient lotion. The ones I never had the interest to know them

canario wrote:
One important thing that so far seems to have escaped:
one speaks of it in the final drafting of photos of Beps there are "women" bottles and "man", then there are at least 2 versions. How do they differ? There is also a difference between the lotion and the AA for Androgenetic Alopecia?
Thanks for answers.
Beps63:
Women have less testosterone than men, so need less equol.
The vascular system is the same

S7E841 wrote:
Beps on a sostenevi intervention had recovered a degree of baldness ... and then always on the same post you said that you would have recovered more ...
Ok, as long as you talk to have recovered a degree we can stay ... but what gives you the retrieve other belief?! It is one thing also tested on others? That is, you know for a fact that this lotion does improve anyone from using it?!? Thanks
Beps63:
Watching the vellus with dermatoscope, you see different types of hair and vellus, are classified by diameter and color:
The vellus I was born transparent, brings forth the "blond" and bigger.
I have many vellus with dark base and the clear part of the terminal.
Those slightly bigger although very thin, they are larger than the vellus "blonde", but totally dark (brown)
This happens in both the Vertex is trai hair of the frontal zone, where there are a piece of hair normal and at least three times vellus at various stages.
When I say blond means that are little darker than transparent ones.
I hope I've explained well what happens

white tuxedo wrote:
Beps but then with the prolonged use of the lotion accounts on regrowth hair lost many years ago?
Beps63:
We are in a phase in which they are trying to figure out how many years you can go back.Objectively, the 5-year estimates of recovery, may be simplistic, but this will evaluate between at least a year.
They are under care for so long, and because it is an extreme case, either because they never sgarro, so they are reliable

zimmerman has wrote:
I imagine you'll be happy
you do not have a couple of photos that show the
change of image?
Beps63:
Pretend that were years that I rasavo.
With or without hair changes little, my life flows equally

Beps63:
http://imgur.com / a / pC8kW
in the picture you see on the top left, a dark shadow. What is the diameter of a normal hair. You see various stages of vellus. Once there was nothing

Jake Chambers wrote:
Thanks Beps!
This is your current situation as part of the scalp?
Beps63:
Vertex, I went from a 10cm diameter 3.8cm

S7E841 wrote:
But the ones that the hair they see there were terminals or have become so through the use of lotion?
Beps63:
I was empty, smooth. Look at those who have dark base and the clear tip, that's why I am convinced that will recover other degrees of balding

white tuxedo wrote:
Beps take this opportunity one last time of your willingness to ask you one thing, when you said that for a optimal use of the lotion would be appropriate to apply it after washing the scalp with mild soap, there is a particular reason why it should be used this soap?
Beps63:
the Marseille soap is a soap without creams and above that which removes grease better.
I the I put in to wash my head without advance
 

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A "problem" might also mean that there is some minor delay, nothing more. Maybe they simply don´t have the production facilities to produce a product which is gonna sell about a million times ED......

Pretty sure they would've taken that into consideration when buying the patent.
 

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I had a dream once where I was in an arena surrounded by bald men and bald antelopes...it was a cold yet sunny November day and it was me against an army of baldies....I was scared and Alone but I had my hammer , I had one chance and I took it, I swung it will
All my might but it wasn't enough, they kept coming and coming...the sun was reflecting on there heads and causing to blind me...so I turned super Sayian...with this power i held them back fighting my way through the masses of hideous bald people...they called in their secret weapon. A 700 ft duel wielding samurai prince...he eventually beat me down and tied me to a tree...I was raped by the prince he's penis was well over 17 metres but I took it like a champion...then the army proceded to follow him and I was raped by this legion of antelopes and bald men...one after the other they would empty there loads into my bum hole....I would just take it, fearless, emotionless, then hope.....dr brotzu came and my ordeal was over he drove the baldies back killing all of them women baldies children baldies....i was saved..I said to him why ??? He replied death to all
Baldies....I said than you and can you untie me please; he said no and proceded to rape me....
 

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I had a dream once where I was in an arena surrounded by bald men and bald antelopes...it was a cold yet sunny November day and it was me against an army of baldies....I was scared and Alone but I had my hammer , I had one chance and I took it, I swung it will
All my might but it wasn't enough, they kept coming and coming...the sun was reflecting on there heads and causing to blind me...so I turned super Sayian...with this power i held them back fighting my way through the masses of hideous bald people...they called in their secret weapon. A 700 ft duel wielding samurai prince...he eventually beat me down and tied me to a tree...I was raped by the prince he's penis was well over 17 metres but I took it like a champion...then the army proceded to follow him and I was raped by this legion of antelopes and bald men...one after the other they would empty there loads into my bum hole....I would just take it, fearless, emotionless, then hope.....dr brotzu came and my ordeal was over he drove the baldies back killing all of them women baldies children baldies....i was saved..I said to him why ??? He replied death to all
Baldies....I said than you and can you untie me please; he said no and proceded to rape me....

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Thank you for summary.

If the lotions works like hes saying it will be huge. But we still dont know if it is better than finasteride+minoxidil. Because he didnt take. But recovering one norwood with 50 is very efficient.

I read everything, but did he say when it could be available?
 

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Don't know if anyone in our forum is proficient with their Italian, but it would be great if someone could ask Beps63 if he has any more knowledge on the progression of the lotion to commercialisation. Are there any hitches in the process or are we just fanning a false fire?

SPECULATION:
I can't exactly remember who, but someone in the blog previously mentioned that the FIDIA androgenic alopecia trials begun around mid-April. So that would mean the 6 month end-trial period is coming up / has arrived. Factor in some time for FIDIA to process, finalise and produce a report on the trial, and we could hope for news in the next couple of months? *best case scenario*
 

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Don't know if anyone in our forum is proficient with their Italian, but it would be great if someone could ask Beps63 if he has any more knowledge on the progression of the lotion to commercialisation. Are there any hitches in the process or are we just fanning a false fire?
Seriously... You are ridiculous.
 

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I can understand the anticipation for something resembling a cure, but the constant badgering of FIDIA won't result in things moving forward any faster. It'ill come out when it is ready to come out.
 

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Thank you for summary.

If the lotions works like hes saying it will be huge. But we still dont know if it is better than finasteride+minoxidil. Because he didnt take. But recovering one norwood with 50 is very efficient.

I read everything, but did he say when it could be available?
2 norwood
 

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A "problem" might also mean that there is some minor delay, nothing more. Maybe they simply don´t have the production facilities to produce a product which is gonna sell about a million times ED......

You know, I actually have my doubts this thing will be a huge seller. At least, not initially.

You can already get some great results with finasteride, minoxidil and transplants, but only 7-10% of men pursue treatment. A lotion that is likely to come with a lofty pricetag, even with little or no side effects, is unlikely to sway most men who are already delusional and believe that balding is no big deal and that their confidence trumps any social bias stacked against them.
 
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