Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

zaman

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Just read that you tend to be like your grandpa from the motherside. He was bald Norwood 7 in his mid 30!!!!

Thats would explain my super aggressive Androgenetic Alopecia in the last two years. Norwood 0/1 to diffus Norwood 3 even with finasteride + minoxidil. Im 29 btw.

Yeah I hope this brotzu lotions comes out, but won't help me I guess and its more likely for Q3-4 2017. Just my feeling

Grandfather on mothers side has full head of hairs NW2 at 90. =[ I take after my NW6 father, but all brothers have perfect full hair. WTF
 

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Hi to all members some words from an italian user of lotion replica ....


Hello everyone ... I'm new here, but I want to bring back what I encountered in the use of home-made lotion.
Although it has clear evidence, or rather can not tell you "I have grown new hair and I covered the thinned areas, I can, with a certain safety margin to confirm what has already been said by other users, and Spar in the first place.
- Feeling hot the first applications
from here to 28 days response:
- Seborrheic dermatitis disappeared, so spare me the shampoo nizoral (which I applied 3 times per week.)
- Slight appearance of vellus
- Significant reduction of the fall (there was no drop induced the first applications)
- Sensation of robustness of the hair, which appears less thin

I want to clarify that they are subjective reports. Do not assume another. I cared for with fine and serenoa for a year ... he suspended six months ago.

I read in this forum that a user has found an increase in testosterone in blood tests (correct me if I'm wrong). Here from this point of view, of course it could be of interest to all future users (if it ever comes out), NOT FINDING SIDES. My blood tests do not report values (plasma testosterone to dihydrotestosterone ... etc ..) out of the norm.

Pictures, please! Are you Spanish @Manolo75?
 

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I don't really know if any of you mentioned it before in this thread but: From what I have understood from Brotzu's interview is that he claims AA and Androgenetic Alopecia are actually a vascular malfunction/damage. Which is somehow obsolete as a theory and proven that it was not the case (OK brotzu's theory is not exactly the same but follows same principles)
IF he is right (big if!) then it means that some habits, for example smoking, actually deteriorate a lot the hairloss and there can be a scientific connection between those two. Also, food that improve vascular health should help. But then again,why neither of those foods and supplements, eg gingko biloba, actually helped in hairloss?
Just some thoughts
 

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I don't really know if any of you mentioned it before in this thread but: From what I have understood from Brotzu's interview is that he claims AA and Androgenetic Alopecia are actually a vascular malfunction/damage. Which is somehow obsolete as a theory and proven that it was not the case (OK brotzu's theory is not exactly the same but follows same principles)
IF he is right (big if!) then it means that some habits, for example smoking, actually deteriorate a lot the hairloss and there can be a scientific connection between those two. Also, food that improve vascular health should help. But then again,why neither of those foods and supplements, eg gingko biloba, actually helped in hairloss?
Just some thoughts

It's known that smoking is bad for your hair, and that moderate alcohol consumption is good for hair.

As for foods, there have been no rigorous studies of diet and hair loss. That's why we don't know. Nobody's done the (hard) work of checking, so all we have is speculation.
 

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As for foods, there have been no rigorous studies of diet and hair loss. That's why we don't know. Nobody's done the (hard) work of checking, so all we have is speculation.


The only food I can think of that ccould be bad for hair would be excessive sugar.
Over consumption can actually age your skin badly. It causes glycosylation in the tissues.
That is, it cause the proteins in the skin to bind up and become stiff. This would affect the scalp also. So it could create a bad enviroment for hair to grow healthily.
 
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As for foods, there have been no rigorous studies of diet and hair loss. That's why we don't know. Nobody's done the (hard) work of checking, so all we have is speculation.

I agree with that. It is really a pain in the *** to make an assumption because it takes time,it takes big amounts of that food/supplement and often you can't really distinguish the result because of other topicals/drugs.

But I dont really believe that all we need is a magic combination of certain foods,time and patience. I mean it would have worked at least for SOME people,even if they found it by chance. Anyway...
 

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Also is important, in our case, ask why food, tobacco, etc. only affect to certains hairs, in a defined pattern?
We need a compass to explore common hair loss ;)
 

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I don't really know if any of you mentioned it before in this thread but: From what I have understood from Brotzu's interview is that he claims AA and Androgenetic Alopecia are actually a vascular malfunction/damage. Which is somehow obsolete as a theory and proven that it was not the case (OK brotzu's theory is not exactly the same but follows same principles)
IF he is right (big if!) then it means that some habits, for example smoking, actually deteriorate a lot the hairloss and there can be a scientific connection between those two. Also, food that improve vascular health should help. But then again,why neither of those foods and supplements, eg gingko biloba, actually helped in hairloss?
Just some thoughts

Hmm, never thought of it that way. That sounds like the usual bullshit we got from homeopathists who recommend natural "remedies". These people also claim a huge "success" for their products without any proof. But the reviews we have heard until now sound rather promising. I do not have the scientific knowledge to judge, whether the lotion actually could work at least in theory. In the end it is just some speculation and we will simply have to wait for the actual product.
 

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same boat here...
seb derm + diffused aa

I use zix, helps my Seb Derm big time. I think it's a big reason why I think it's reduced my shedding from lots to little.

It's known that smoking is bad for your hair, and that moderate alcohol consumption is good for hair.

As for foods, there have been no rigorous studies of diet and hair loss. That's why we don't know. Nobody's done the (hard) work of checking, so all we have is speculation.

I tend to agree anecdotally with that, whenever I go though periods where I don't drink much, I tend to shed more. Last night I drank a lot, not sure what impact it had on my hair, all I know is I feel like brain dead zombie today :)
 

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Yes, smoking is bad for the hair but I know a lot of girls that smoke and they don't loose their hair !
It's a factor, not the cause.
Just look at all these Heroin junkies with their thick hair....

It´s genetics, nothing more!
 

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Just look at all these Heroin junkies with their thick hair....

It´s genetics, nothing more!

Exactly.
My friend who is rich as hell is shooting heroin and occasionally doing cocaine and he's still NW1 with thick as river otter hair.
It looks like drugs he's taking didn't affect his hair at all.
 

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Just look at all these Heroin junkies with their thick hair....

It´s genetics, nothing more!
Yes, and the genetics are probably the main reason why people with the gene for Androgenetic Alopecia might be more susceptible to issues which people without Androgenetic Alopecia would not have a problem with. Say the gene lowers the amount of cell damage our follicles can take, it would mean that some things (such as DHT) would affect us more than it would them. All these things (smoking, drugs, certain foods) might be a factor in people who are susceptible because our genetic makeup is different and therefore you cannot really compare these things to other people, since they definitely have a different genetic makeup and therefore will react differently in possibly identical situations.
 

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Doesn't this lotion have a different mechanism to minoxidil? I heard it has some ind of topical DHT inhibitor as well? Can someone explain the different as if I were a child. My science is bad.
 

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Doesn't this lotion have a different mechanism to minoxidil? I heard it has some ind of topical DHT inhibitor as well? Can someone explain the different as if I were a child. My science is bad.

This lotion has three ingredients which they're claiming contribute three different mechanisms.

Equol is the DHT inhibitor, they say it accounts for 45% of the effectiveness, which they assessed by having some people use lotions not including equol. DGLA is supposedly similar to minoxidil. L carnitine supposedly does something else.
 

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This lotion has three ingredients which they're claiming contribute three different mechanisms.

Equol is the DHT inhibitor, they say it accounts for 45% of the effectiveness, which they assessed by having some people use lotions not including equol. DGLA is supposedly similar to minoxidil. L carnitine supposedly does something else.

All conveyed with cationic liposomes.
 

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I agree with that. It is really a pain in the *** to make an assumption because it takes time,it takes big amounts of that food/supplement and often you can't really distinguish the result because of other topicals/drugs.

But I dont really believe that all we need is a magic combination of certain foods,time and patience. I mean it would have worked at least for SOME people,even if they found it by chance. Anyway...

the food and lifestyle make sense for Areata since its autoimmune and usually has a trigger for autoimmune response .
I dont think it would make a difference for Angrogenic UNLESS those Androgenetic Alopecia with inflammation IF the inflammation is coming from some kind of autoimmune response (thats not areata)...im sure better minds then mine know if this makes sense or not.
 

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I wish we could find a lab or chemist in USA to make this up.
 
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