Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016
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What? Go do that then, go wait. If that's how you wanna do it, that's fine - but why are you here? Why do you need everyone else here to wait with you and stop posting? Could it be because you're scared, angry, and insecure? We all are man, some of just choose to have hope. If you wanna wait, then go wait! But attacking others for not doing what you want to do is retarded and immature as f***.
You're asking what 7th sense gains from posting - but what are YOU gaining from your pointless comments? You'll probably just cherrypick this reply and say something nonsensical and dumb, I understand that. But follow your own advice - go wait!
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Honestly, I dont even remember why I'm posting on this thread.
You are right.
I really don't need to be here.
Nevertheless, as I've already said, we are just a few months shy of 2018. What's the point in rambling about a lotion we have been provided with no data?
Interestinf post of a HLC Member:
2 things are happening here –
1) It sounds way too good to be true, and I kind of worry that this is going to be the same as Kelopecia crap from Yeditepe Uni. Post great results, claim its the cure, release it to market…aaand snake oil.
The reason I’m saying that is because of the constant delays in getting it to market or showing any kind of pulic photos. With this product, it is all purely cosmetic materials, there is no need any more for safety trials etc. If it was working, they would have launched it.
OR
2) They know this works, have had extremely good results and are now faced with the challenge that in order to capitalise on it, they need to take the market by absolute storm and have enough produced to satisfy the 12Bn euro demand which exists. They need a supply chain that extends accross the world, production facilities etc etc.
They are behind the scenes throwing it all together ready for a massive launch.
1 is the more likely, sadly.
Option 2 is more likely and could really be fidias issue right now. Just think about how many people want to buy this lotion of fidia release it. I don't think that it will take too long until it will be on news worldwide.
2 things are happening here –
1) It sounds way too good to be true, and I kind of worry that this is going to be the same as Kelopecia crap from Yeditepe Uni. Post great results, claim its the cure, release it to market…aaand snake oil.
The reason I’m saying that is because of the constant delays in getting it to market or showing any kind of pulic photos. With this product, it is all purely cosmetic materials, there is no need any more for safety trials etc. If it was working, they would have launched it.
OR
2) They know this works, have had extremely good results and are now faced with the challenge that in order to capitalise on it, they need to take the market by absolute storm and have enough produced to satisfy the 12Bn euro demand which exists. They need a supply chain that extends accross the world, production facilities etc etc.
They are behind the scenes throwing it all together ready for a massive launch.
1 is the more likely, sadly.
Option 2 is more likely and could really be fidias issue right now. Just think about how many people want to buy this lotion of fidia release it. I don't think that it will take too long until it will be on news worldwide.
How is this interesting? Its just mindless speculation and honestly a waste of time. Sorry bro, appreciate your effort to keep us updated, but stuff like this has been posted over and over in what is soon to be 500+ pages of Teh Brotzu lozione.
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This is supposed to be better than Finasteride.
If they can't come up with something safer and more effective than Finasteride in 2018, they can just f*** right off.
I am the first person to bad mouth propecia sometimes, but I mean the stuff flat out works amazingly compared to what came before it. Biggest advancement for male pattern baldness in the last 50 years bar none. Its not easy to match or beat actually because its pretty powerful and good at what it does.
If only it didnt have the sides or inhibit neurosteroids it would be so much easier to recommend to everyone.
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I didn't understand anything of your post, but I read "Banned" under your username, and that's enough for me.
Just wanted to say that OBVIOUSLY I'm not here to sell any lotion (I repeat, I wish I was using Brotzu) but to kill the time in the waiting for the product.
I hope this was also the purpose of Beps...
However, I wanted to let you read an old post from that user, Spiga92: here is what he was saying 2 months ago:
The translation is:
" I give you a fraternal advice: go back to this section in ten years. Let it go, FIDIA, and all the other charlatans. Ignore the optimists and Brotzu/FIDIA fan club, because their hopes are based on nothing (or at most on a company that has decisively decided to stay silent for years without any valid motivation). Be quiet whenever there is something really good on the market you will come to know. This is my sincere advice, you can follow it or not, but that's exactly what I think. "
Then yesterday he wrote what I just translated some posts ago:
Now, what caused this quick shift of ideas? His story on how he managed to see the photos works, but I don't trust a lot BelliCapelli's users in general, except for a bunch of them, but I admit I don't know them very well.
It could be real, even if he said he saw NW3/4 going back to full heads... As forum members, he and all of us surely know what is a Norwood scale, at the end we become Norwood-spotters even in real life. So he surely knows perfectly what is a NW3 and what is a NW1, but... i mean, Estrogens, even at transexual doses, are not everytime able to completely restore the temples. Yes, they do miracles, but inverting the process is freaking hard even for the hormones.
I trust this lotion, I believe in regrowth, but guys... NW3 to NW1/0 is a f*****g huge step...
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How long has this person been registered on the site? Two months isn't all that long to lie in wait and then have a dramatic reversal. Hope he's telling the truth though.
Yes it does sound too good to be truth but somewhere is a cure and maybe it's brotzus lotion. Who knows? Probabely my future me in 1 year but seriously I rather have a lot of products in the pipeline which give me some hope that this nightmare will come to an end in a few years than have nothing and the cure is out of reach. A lot of companys work hard to find a cure or at least better treatments and that's very good because pharma companys like fidia understand, that you could make billions with a cure for hairloss or even just better stuff than finasterid and minoxidil. Even if the Lotion does not replace finasterid and minoxidil, it has the potential to replace at least one of them. I think it has a good chance to replace minoxidil because the vasodliation effect does sound more potent than the one from minoxidil. Maybe it will replace both but i'm very sure that it will at least be a potent addition to the big 3 and I'm exited that there is a product from a respected company which sounds very promising and could be released within a year.
Back to fidia and this turkish "university". First of all it's a very shitty university and has not a very good reputation. What would they have to lose if they scam people? Not a lot. If they scam me i don't go to their university but i wouldn't have anyway because there are thousands of better universitys in the world. And great results? Really? A turkish actor who was as bald as he was before after trying this lotion. They talked so much about this lotion that in the end i think they themself believed that this lotion could work. There where so much red flags and if you don't see this wall of red flags then i am sorry for you and you deserve to lose money. On the other hand there is Fidia which has an established product line and is a respected company which does exist for decades and presents their research at congresses and meetings. They have a lot to lose and could seriously damage their company and their product line. The same goes for brotzu. He and his father are well respected doctors in italy and i believe there is even a hospital named after them in cagliari. Why would an old man throw away his legacy for money he probabely could never spend.
The conclusion that "If it was working, they would have launched it." does somehow sound wrong to me. I'm 99% sure that Fidia knows at this point if the lotion works or not and how good it is. If it's not working they have 2 Options: eighter stop the research or throw a product on the market which does not work. Option 1: They haven't stopped their research by now so it does probabely work. Option 2: Why would they spend another year and spend millions for a product which does not work. The more logical conclusion is that the lotion does work but...... And here we have a lot of Options: The Lotion works but is not stable. The Lotion works but is not suited for massproduction. The Lotion works but does not perfom as they hoped and they try to improve the lotion etc. etc. etc.
Also Fidia is not one of the really big pharma companys and probabely don't have billions to spend for research. Why would they research 2 years and spend millions for a product which is worthless? I think it's a good sign, that they still work on a product because if they where not sure that this lotion does work to a certain point, they would not continue to spend money on researching this lotion.
And yes there are not a lot of data to this lotion. But why is this a bad thing? Of course i would like to see photos and data and see by myself how good this lotion really is but fidia does not have better data at this point, so they don't release anything. That's no sign wether this lotion works or not. Fidia will release their data as soon as they have data to release. Until then we have to wait. A lot of companys in the hair loss industry talk a lot but deliver nothing. Maybe it's time to remain quiet but then deliver. A good example is Tsuij. Besides some interview they don't talk too much about their research and they just release data when they have news like when they grew hair on a hairless mice. So i'm optimistic about Fidia and their silence.
Also about the delays. There is a lot of false information in this forums because actually there are no official delays for the lotion. I know Brotzu said last year that this lotion should be out soon but the whole trials and production is in the hands of Fidia and the only date Fidia ever released is that they ENVISAGE the development of the POTENTIAL product CANDIDATE being completed BY 2018. All the other dates came from users or rumors or whatever.
The amount of faith you should put in completely unsupported anecdotal claims coming from some guy on the internet regarding his exclusive, inside look at a pharmaceutical company's trial results of an unreleased product is 0 or any number into the negatives.
Yeah but we have more evidance than this guy.
Beps, CavalloPazzo who got good results with a copy of fidias lotion and this user who has seen pictures.
3 people lie concerning this lotion and spending so much time... Does not make sense.
This is not the typical troll pattern so it's more logic that we can believe 3 different people who all say that this lotion is working as the doctor says.
Just my opinion.
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And why did he sold his lotion to Fidia if they couldn't manage to bring it to market?
The worst thing about this is it doesn't matter if they lie or not, but we have to wait if the lotion will ever come out..
Even if this is the cure it won't help us until we got our hands on it..
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Not saying this is the case, but what would Fidia or Brotzu gain by paying somebody on some random forum to lie about the lotion there in the grand scheme of things? Otherwise, what would that forum member gain from lying about having seen patient's great results? I really doubt that something fishy is going on and really don't believe this is a snake oil, because the initial sales of the lotion generated by people who would fall for the snake oil would never be able to pay for the research and production costs, nevermind making a profit.
Hopefully what I'm saying makes a bit of sense haha.
Hopefully what I'm saying makes a bit of sense haha.
hahaha the expert is talking
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The thing is this is how it is, there is no proof that this works at all, the only thing we have is trusting brotzu behind what he has created, and the science makes sense and therefore it is believable that this may work. A company has bought the patent and stated they are developing this, that's all we have . At no point has anything been postponed, dates made up by people who don't even know anything anyway, so to come and just say scam, well it could be but at the same time your negativity outshines you stating you trust science, because if you did, then you'd know this lotion has the possibility of working .