Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016
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Typical end of the year panic attacks.
What? Did you expect Christmas presents early this year?
FIDIA is not Santa. Santa is not real.
And yet people today started losing their sh*t after Janko's post.
Get a f*****g life boys, instead of 100 posts why you think that it'll suck because no trial results yet, no statement by FIDIA, etc. We heard enough of this same sh*t for over 2 years. By get a f*****g life I also mean stop planning your time according to the realease of this lotion, you're crazy, stop putting all of your hopes into this, it makes you a desperate bald f***. Are people on Italian FB that dense not to ask the Placebo/nonplacepo trial group person if the trials are over?
I suggest moving on with your life instad of crying, weeping and making any crazy predictions about this product.
Its ok I confronted him privately about this, and his lack of balls to say whats on his mind but just hides behind the dislike button.. not much more to say he just gets more childish when you confront him.. just don't waste your time or energy pal. But keep questioning and doubting the lotion he loves that!!
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Sorry but you guys are ridiculous. First of all I think disliking a post is a stupid functionality, its just provoking others and I think no one should use it. Reporting or replying is enough imo.
Second, I can't even count how many times @The 7TH Sense has stated his opinion with a huge text. These texts sometimes just get ignored or he gets insulted with zero points made. He is one of the most reasonable guys in this forum imo. He is not hiding or scared, I think he is just tired of repeating himself.
However this is just my point of view. Feel free to think what you want. I wouldnt dislike posts but I would also be tired of replying and repeating myself.
Second, I can't even count how many times @The 7TH Sense has stated his opinion with a huge text. These texts sometimes just get ignored or he gets insulted with zero points made. He is one of the most reasonable guys in this forum imo. He is not hiding or scared, I think he is just tired of repeating himself.
However this is just my point of view. Feel free to think what you want. I wouldnt dislike posts but I would also be tired of replying and repeating myself.
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OMG Brotzu Lotion just released!
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Thank you for your intelligence, that's exactly my point, you understood perfectly.
Now since @Janko had some likes about my "hiding" behind dislikes, I will disclose publicly what I sent to him straight after I read his comment. He will confirm it is exactly what I've sent him, some hours before this post:
Hello I write here for the simply reason that I'm sick to get trolled by the same guys. Plus, everything I could write is heavily debated on the thread already.
I already said multiple times that for me there is not a single reason to be upset of the lack of photos and informations, since the official statement, which that's the only one that counts, already said that FIDIA will be back in 2018. I just can't understand why a lot of people lose hope over this treatment for these reasonings when we have still not met FIDIA's deadline. It's just illogical for me. Before January's official update a lot of people were hyped, posted memes and stuff and today everything is the opposite... Just because they said they need more time? I just don't understand this lunatic mood, it's beyond my logic.
Also, as I said in one of my most recent posts, the argument "if they had something they would already advertised it" is totally invalid: starting from the fact that this lotion is not going to be "the cure" and that's for sure, it is safe to say that at least we are expecting an effectiveness on the level of finasteride / minoxidil or a combo of them, maybe even slightly better (in this realistic view); now, as you know well, and as the doctor said, the treatment, since it does not address the cause of Androgenetic Alopecia, is going to have a totally subjective efficacy: this varies in a lot of ways, just like the actual treatments. Brotzu formulated some "requirements" for its effectiveness, but at the end our personal body reacts differently for each of us. I guess you agree on this one.
What you are not getting is that, given this highly variable response, a seriouscompany can't leak any data about this effectiveness; what should they tell you? "The trials are going good/bad" ? What does scientifically mean good or bad? Because if they did not end their studies they can't be more specific. But in this field - science - a scientific approach is required. Everything they could tell you right now can't be accepted because would be extremelygeneral/vague and not scientific; also they could raise or lower expectations by saying that, which is not correct. A proper "serious" company does not do that. In the hairloss world, a world which is extremely unexplorated, for which the cures work differently for everyone, cannot begeneralized in such words.
I can't really explain why you and the others who think that way struggle to comprehend this simple fact.
I had a lot of rumors recently, after moving the entire forums and FB groups, and had confirmations that trials are still going. FIDIA itself said that they gave this task to a third-party company, which will further evaluate the results and conduct the studies. Those studies will be strictlyfollowed, and will be formulated in probabilistic and statistic terms, which can not be predicted as of now and surely can't be summarized in "good/bad". Subjectivity can not be summarized scientifically in the way yiu are thinking, and surely not when it comes to advertise a product in a world fool of mad people that are ready to rape your entire family if you promise that your treatment grows 2 hairs and it really regrows only 1 on them. It's not possible to say that as of now, I repeat, because the hairloss treatments do not work the same for everybody, and a serious company, which will put in the market a product, can't say anything without backing it up with scientific facts and demonstrations, because they would overhype or underhype people, and they can't lose their reputation in this way.
I can't really explain it in any other ways, if you still think differently it's ok and you can discuss with me your point, but if it is the same "if it was so good, they would already have marketed it" I will keep disliking each of these affirmations I see on the thread.
On a side note, this is to say that I am not protecting the lotion itself - which can completely and possibly be a total dud - but my logic. I don't have nothing against you, but since I am sick of getting trolled by the same users or be forced to post and say the same things, I decided to just like/dislike the posts based on my logic, and since I receive a lot of requests and PMs by a lot of users who ask what I think about this lotion, it's easy for them to find my feedbacks. I try to limit my posts to the strict necessary because I do not want to add more thrash (aside from memes, lol, which are always good) to the thread and to be an anchor when it comes to discuss seriously or to have useful informations in every thread, not only Brotzu's.
If I find that I disagree with a post and I do not intend to reply, i have surely a reason to just dislike - I don't think I'm going against the rules on this one. Don't think I have something against you, absolutely not, but as you can see I like and dislike everybody in various threads following a logic, not only to you or to protect this lotion (for which I am fairly skeptical too).
Hope I clarified
So with that said, I did read again the rules of the forum and I didn't find anywhere that I'm obligated to write a post everytime I hit the dislike buttons. That's exactly what @paxis said, I'm getting tired of getting trolled and doing catfights over and over and repeating the same things ad nauseam just to be trolled again.
As you can see, I think I'm a honest and fair guy and I immediately provided to him another editorial to explain my dislike because he asked. I will do it again only if I can provide any real new contribution to the thread, because this is what a forum should be and not a nest of pathtic c**** who troll each other because they believe in another treatment, like they're fighting a war or religion.
To that c*** @Recon_s that is really becoming annoying and provoking, I would provide directly the screenshots of the stupid conversation after he sent me his PM where he made me cry as the hideous f** that I am and showed his incredible maturity
I omit the rest of this stupid conversation.
I would also suggest to the user that I am not an "easy target", and out of 3 people who picked a keyboard fight with me after trolling, 3 of them are now banned. It's obvious that if you start trolling and insulting me you are probably not in the side of the reason - since I never start fights with anyone. I am a calm user who likes to give advice and news and some randoms love to pick fights with me. I don't know why, but to me it seems the butthurt are you and not me.
And that's another useless post I am wasting for another catfight to defend my reputation......
EDIT: I would also say that, if anybody has any issues with my dislike, to send me a PM and I'm perfectly fine to provide my opinion and the reasons why I disliked the post. What I am afraid is not that people are invested in knowing more, but they just don't want their dislike counter to go up. This would be pretty sad, and I also would like to remark that I don't give a f*** about brotzu, follica, shiseido, finasteride and GourmetStyleWellness, I just f*****g want my hairs back, and I'm ready to shoot each of you in the face if that's needed. I really hope a good treatment will come soon so I can forget about this load of crap and move on with my life.
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I do confirm your message. I did not want to start any hate flow against you. You contributed a lot in getting the informations about the lotion a lot. I just wondered what you have against and how do you back it up. If you look through this thread I am a dank memer and kind of tried to objective and add some infos here too. Right now I just stand behind idea of this lotion being good just for weak Androgenetic Alopecia people and not the velus to hair changer. Overall I dont get the hate on you and your kind of butthurt reaction either. All I wanted was to know,What makes you think, that having just claimes without pictures for 2 years and complete silence from fidia is not a sign of a weak or bad results.Thank you for your intelligence, that's exactly my point, you understood perfectly.
Now since @Janko had some likes about my "hiding" behind dislikes, I will disclose publicly what I sent to him straight after I read his comment. He will confirm it is exactly what I've sent him, some hours before this post:
So with that said, I did read again the rules of the forum and I didn't find anywhere that I'm obligated to write a post everytime I hit the dislike buttons. That's exactly what @paxis said, I'm getting tired of getting trolled and doing catfights over and over and repeating the same things ad nauseam just to be trolled again.
As you can see, I think I'm a honest and fair guy and I immediately provided to him another editorial to explain my dislike because he asked. I will do it again only if I can provide any real new contribution to the thread, because this is what a forum should be and not a nest of pathtic c**** who troll each other because they believe in another treatment, like they're fighting a war or religion.
To that c*** @Recon_s that is really becoming annoying and provoking, I would provide directly the screenshots of the stupid conversation after he sent me his PM where he made me cry as the hideous f** that I am and showed his incredible maturity
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I omit the rest of this stupid conversation.
I would also suggest to the user that I am not an "easy target", and out of 3 people who picked a keyboard fight with me after trolling, 3 of them are now banned. It's obvious that if you start trolling and insulting me you are probably not in the side of the reason - since I never start fights with anyone. I am a calm user who likes to give advice and news and some randoms love to pick fights with me. I don't know why, but to me it seems the butthurt are you and not me.
And that's another useless post I am wasting for another catfight to defend my reputation......
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f*** you man!
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Where did the ''lauch in March'' rumor come from again? Does it have any merit whatsoever?
Some guy had a Linkedin conversation with a FIDIA employee. Maybe the same one we had here and sent the full conversation with March release date screenshot to IESON admin who verified it. But, as I said everything could be faked. Not only March, but also February statement too.
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Yeah dunno, here are few people with an attitude. Just hit the ignore button rather than waste your free time on people like that.
The Brotzu potion is likely to become a comercially castrated solution. They should have invested into real pge1.
The Brotzu potion is likely to become a comercially castrated solution. They should have invested into real pge1.
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Thanks, Tommy.
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https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/threads/the-big-bad-awesome-brotzu-lotion-faq.100452/
Here is all the info so far.
days ago, i got info from 'someone' that the lotion stabilty was resolved a months ago by brotzu which confirm this post,
the person prefer not to share this but i can't hold,
now it seems that everything is under control of this shitty FIDIA, i don't know what the hell they are F***** doing,
i'm F**** pissed my hair situation become worst by time, and personally if they don't give us info in December i'll give a shot to finesteride.
no more BS,
This stuff isn’t coming out in March and people would be doing themselves a huge favor if they could step outside of their desperation and denial and realize that fact. Fidia has said NOTHING and no ‘insider’ is going to give you that kind of information. Just because you have fairly realiable leaks pertaining to your next iPhone doesn’t mean it’s a universal occurrence whenever ‘someone’ says something. Some anonymous FIDIA employee ‘verified by the IESON admin’: give me a f*****g break. Half the reason this thread is so depressing is because some people are so gullible.
All of a sudden no one remembers how this lotion was said to be coming in February from sources that ‘can’t be named’. Glad to know we’re doing the same thing this year, but using March instead.
