Just seen a trichologist - NOW I am scared...

[donkdidonk2]

He got a device that magnified my hair so he could see my follicles. This is sehat he said:

1. He said that those with a black dot in the middle were 'blocked' by DHT and not getting enough blood. He said he thought that about 75-85% of blood was getting through in my case.

2. He also got this device on the crown and he said there were some affected follicles here, and I may notice thinning when I am about 32-33, in 5 years time. BUT he said the major concern was my hairline. He said that follicles had the black dot up to an inch away from my hairline.

3. It may go quite rapidly in the next few years at my temples

4. But he DID also say that as most of the blood was getting through, that loss would be slow? I also pointed out that most of the loss had occurred age 18 - 19 and it hadn't really gone much since, so how could he say it would go quick?

5. On a positive he said that the follicles where there was no hair were still alive but dormant and that the laser treatment he was trying to sell me I would be a prime candidate for. I would need 6 months treatement and that would be it for life.

6. He said that DHT attached at the dermal papillaie. He then said that it was becuase the top of the hair follicle was blocked with DHT that no new hairs can break through the blocake. Surely this is rubbish?

7. Is laser therepy any good anyway?

8. Will those follicles affected by DHT up to now ALL die?

God, I am depressed.

 

[drinkrum]

He got a device that magnified my hair so he could see my follicles. This is sehat he said:

1. He said that those with a black dot in the middle were 'blocked' by DHT and not getting enough blood. He said he thought that about 75-85% of blood was getting through in my case.

2. He also got this device on the crown and he said there were some affected follicles here, and I may notice thinning when I am about 32-33, in 5 years time. BUT he said the major concern was my hairline. He said that follicles had the black dot up to an inch away from my hairline.

3. It may go quite rapidly in the next few years at my temples

4. But he DID also say that as most of the blood was getting through, that loss would be slow? I also pointed out that most of the loss had occurred age 18 - 19 and it hadn't really gone much since, so how could he say it would go quick?

5. On a positive he said that the follicles where there was no hair were still alive but dormant and that the laser treatment he was trying to sell me I would be a prime candidate for. I would need 6 months treatement and that would be it for life.

6. He said that DHT attached at the dermal papillaie. He then said that it was becuase the top of the hair follicle was blocked with DHT that no new hairs can break through the blocake. Surely this is rubbish?

7. Is laser therepy any good anyway?

8. Will those follicles affected by DHT up to now ALL die?

God, I am depressed.

Take everything your trichologist told you and chuck it in the toilet.

Now, procure some finasteride and start using it. Most likely much of your hair will come back, and you will be able to maintain it without problem. Here's a Web site where you can buy Proscar: http://www.111drugstore.com. Remember to buy a pill splitter at your local drugstore and use it to split the Proscar pill (5 mg) into 4ths or 5ths (1.25 or 1 mg) and to take one split portion a day.

D.

 

[Juan Carlos Mederra]

:lol: ..hehe...now that was insightful. geez. really forget everything this wiseguy said. his theory on blockage and blood not getting through sounds sweet but is a bunch of BS.

 

[pbz]

Wow. He really managed not to make any sense at all. You should congratulate him before forcing him to drink Vodka mixed with Rogaine.

 

[Pirate Commander F.B.]

Sheesh how useless are these people? DHT doesn't block your follicles. It tells your immune system to attack your follicles. They get inflamed and shrivel up and die. male pattern baldness has nothing to do with blood supply.

 

[drinkrum]

Sheesh how useless are these people? DHT doesn't block your follicles. It tells your immune system to attack your follicles. They get inflamed and shrivel up and die. male pattern baldness has nothing to do with blood supply.

Actually, blood supply is important. That is how minoxidil works. But still, the guy is useless.

D.

 

[stax]

Hey drinkrum, sorry if i sound like a rookie but im pretty new to this. So there is no difference between name brand Propecia and Proscar? Why is it that places are charging $59.99 for brand name Proepcia which consists of 28 1mg tablets and Proscar is only $70 for 30 5mg tabs? I mean that is dirt cheap compared to Propecia. Is there a quaility difference in the Finesteride or something? Any difference at all? Also how do you equally cut 1 Proscar tab into 5th's? Can you do it exactly into 5th's and is it accurate? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Vin Diesel Brother]

donkdidonk2 how much did this guy charge you? i would like to see the areas where i need to focus on but not too interested in his advice or products he is selling.

 

[Thinning]

Actually, blood supply is important. That is how minoxidil works. But still, the guy is useless.
D.

Actually minoxidil works by extending the growth cycle of the hair folicles. Its a pure chemical reaction and the reason why oral minoxidil users often grow hair all over their body.

Minoxidil does increase circulation, thats why it was originally a heart medicine drug, but thats not why it grows hair.

The increased circulation theory on hair loss has been disproven in studies I beleive, the scalp of balding men has plenty of blood supply. In fact it may aggrevate hair loss to increase circulation by bringing the hair folicle in contact with more DHT.

 

[Hotlegs]

Sheesh how useless are these people? DHT doesn't block your follicles. It tells your immune system to attack your follicles. They get inflamed and shrivel up and die. male pattern baldness has nothing to do with blood supply.

Actually, blood supply is important. That is how minoxidil works. But still, the guy is useless.

D.

First up, minoxidil does not work by it's vasodialation effect (thia theory has been dissproved many time) minoxidil does not work by effecting blood supply.

Minoxidil extends the follicle growth cycle by keeping the hair in anagen for an extended period.

Pretty much everything that Tricologist said was wrong, some of it just horribly out of date, some laughable and the rest is good old fashioned bullshit designed to extract money without comeback.

 

[Guest]

He got a device that magnified my hair so he could see my follicles. This is sehat he said:

1. He said that those with a black dot in the middle were 'blocked' by DHT and not getting enough blood. He said he thought that about 75-85% of blood was getting through in my case.

2. He also got this device on the crown and he said there were some affected follicles here, and I may notice thinning when I am about 32-33, in 5 years time. BUT he said the major concern was my hairline. He said that follicles had the black dot up to an inch away from my hairline.

3. It may go quite rapidly in the next few years at my temples

4. But he DID also say that as most of the blood was getting through, that loss would be slow? I also pointed out that most of the loss had occurred age 18 - 19 and it hadn't really gone much since, so how could he say it would go quick?

5. On a positive he said that the follicles where there was no hair were still alive but dormant and that the laser treatment he was trying to sell me I would be a prime candidate for. I would need 6 months treatement and that would be it for life.

6. He said that DHT attached at the dermal papillaie. He then said that it was becuase the top of the hair follicle was blocked with DHT that no new hairs can break through the blocake. Surely this is rubbish?

7. Is laser therepy any good anyway?

8. Will those follicles affected by DHT up to now ALL die?

God, I am depressed.

f*****g hell! Your Trichologist is almost certainly not qualified.

Virtually evrything he told you was complete shite and it sounds very much like he is rip-off merchant.

How much did he charge you?

Did he try and sell any hair-loss products?

I'm not a genius by any means but I could basically make the guy look like a dick with proof that he is liar.

I would go back there make a mockery of his so called trichology qualifications.

Anyone can call themselves a Trichologist and start up a business, ripping-off vulnerable guys.

f*****g c***.

 

[drinkrum]

Sheesh how useless are these people? DHT doesn't block your follicles. It tells your immune system to attack your follicles. They get inflamed and shrivel up and die. male pattern baldness has nothing to do with blood supply.

Actually, blood supply is important. That is how minoxidil works. But still, the guy is useless.

D.

First up, minoxidil does not work by it's vasodialation effect (thia theory has been dissproved many time) minoxidil does not work by effecting blood supply.

Minoxidil extends the follicle growth cycle by keeping the hair in anagen for an extended period.

Pretty much everything that Tricologist said was wrong, some of it just horribly out of date, some laughable and the rest is good old fashioned bullshit designed to extract money without comeback.

Sorry guys -- you're absolutely correct. As you may well know, I do not use minoxidil so my knowledge of the substance is quite dated, to say the least. I do, however, keep abreast of current news regarding finasteride.

D.

 

[drinkrum]

Hey drinkrum, sorry if i sound like a rookie but im pretty new to this. So there is no difference between name brand Propecia and Proscar? Why is it that places are charging $59.99 for brand name Proepcia which consists of 28 1mg tablets and Proscar is only $70 for 30 5mg tabs? I mean that is dirt cheap compared to Propecia. Is there a quaility difference in the Finesteride or something? Any difference at all? Also how do you equally cut 1 Proscar tab into 5th's? Can you do it exactly into 5th's and is it accurate? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

The chemical, finasteride, is the same in Proscar and Propecia. The difference is that Proscar contains 5 mg whereas Propecia only contains 1 mg. For male pattern baldness, you only need to take 1 mg/day so chopping up a Proscar pill would give you the same benefit as taking one Propecia.

The company, Merck, that makes both Propecia and Proscar charges differently for both drugs -- vanity always comes at a premium. So to save money, most of us just buy Proscar and split it using a sharp blade or pill cutter, both of which can be found at your local drug store. You do not need to be perfectly exact with your pill splitting. In fact, just cutting the pill into 4ths or 1.25 mg (which is easier to do than 5ths) and taking the pill everyday for four days, skipping the fifth, is perfectly fine.

D.

 

[maintainence1]

Do you need to ask your doctor to write you a prescription for Proscar instead of Propecia? Also, can anyone else verify that taking 1.25mg of Proscar for 4 days and then skipping the 5th is the same. Also, can cutting the pill affect the composition at all?

 

[donkdidonk2]

Cheers, fellas. He didn't charge but he is trying to sell me a laser treatment at £1250.

What about the magnification showing DHT in the follicles where there is a black spot at the base? Is this true? And will those follicles automatically affected DEFINITELY die out?

Give me some questions to ask him - I am going for a proper consultation with him just to see what he says. Give me questions to bamboozle him.

 

[donkdidonk2]

Come on guys, gimme somethings to show him up!!

 

[SSM23]

Sounds like the guys a salesman from advanced hair studio. If he is, then tell him to f*** himself!!

 

[pbz]

What about the magnification showing DHT in the follicles where there is a black spot at the base? Is this true? And will those follicles automatically affected DEFINITELY die out?

The black spots are, most likely, hairs in development.

 

[donkdidonk2]

Come on technical folk - give me some Qs. I want to f*** this shyster up!

 

[donkdidonk2]

No, why...?!