Keeping up treatments? For the rest of your life?

cxcasca

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So I am reading all these success stories of people going from half-bald or worse to nearly a full head of hair. They do so one regimes consisting of the big three, vitamins, RU, spironolactone, fluridil, etc.

There is just one thing I can't understand: how the hell do people cope? Throwing the kitchen sink at the hair loss and getting results - that must be really exhausting.

Are you honestly saying that it doesn't bother you one bit? Putting sh*t on your head two or more times a day, messing with your bodys hormones, taking all kinds of suspicious pill. EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE! I wll not even touch the subject of hair transplants - that i a whole different bag of crazy.

I can probably see the motivation for the ultraresponder - but what about all the rest? People with shitty hair obsessively buying expensive treatments while applying liquids, lotions and creams. What do your girlfriends say? What do your friends say? How about your family? "You see, I put all this sh*t on my head and digest these hormone-altering drugs so that I can keep my diffuse hairloss for years and years".

Do you put this in perspective? The life-time commitment? It's not just what other people think - what about your own sanity? Spending the rest of your lives watching your hairline or crown in the mirror, checking for any improvements or detoriation.

I say this as a diffuse NW4. I cannot see me obsessing over this sh*t anymore. I constantly feel the pressure of jumping on meds (even though I've lost relationships to the satans drug called Finasteride). There must be a way of accepting hair loss. I see it all the time! People under 30 without a single hair on their head living fulfilling lives without being super fit or incredibly handsome. Average people. The thing that seems to unite them though is this: happiness. They are comfortable int their own skin.

I realise that this is the wrong place to post a thing like this. And I admit - I am not comfortable in my own skin. My sole motivation for treating hair loss is peoples perception of me.

All this could be because I live in Sweden. Bald people left and right. This country i getting more and more americanized though.

I will not make a goodlooking baldie. I am 5.8, skinny and have a nose like a crooked hawk. But what is the alternative? Taking sh*t that can mess up my body, f*** with my mind and that - most of all - is a constant reminder of my hair loss. "Well, being bald is a constant reminder as well". I know, I know. But honestly, what is the point in having hair if all you do is worry whether or not it will fall off. I do that already! Without treatments!

The problem must be nostalgia. Like old people reminiscing about how everything was better in the old days. "Oh, my life was so much better with hair!". "I remember I used to do this when I had hair and it was so much better then!".

Do you people travel? See the world? Meet interesting people? Or do you sit around sulking over how you no longer can go out and pull an 18 year old hottie? Honestly? Is that what life is about?

I've read multiple posts on this section and it depresses the hell out of me. I am depressed already and hair loss will not make it easier. But posting messages where the whole world is against you because of hair loss is just disturbing for the mind.

I'll give you my story: I was seeing a girl (a beatiful girl with whom I could have had a wonderful life with). I was concerned about losing my hair so I started taking finasteride. That sh*t lead to me diffusing like a b**ch, getting brain fog so that I could not keep pace in conversations and constant, agonizing fatigue. Needless to say - that is not the kind of guy a girl sees a future with. Her boyfriend before me was bald and the guy she is seeing now (who happens to live in the building right across the street) is bald. So I am fairly certain that my balding was sort of insignificant. But my vanity lead to my downfall. Isn't it nice? It is all about accepting change.
 

cxcasca

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I AM one of the ones who can't accept baldness!

But what choice do I have? I am sorry to say this, but you won't be able to beat balness either. I am sure you have the mindset of "I doesn't matter if I lose my hair when I am thirty!". But you will feel like sh*t when ever it happens.

Hair system? Really? Tell me about this wonderful life you will have with the system. Please do! It will come out that you wear a system. And the girls you attract that are only interested in you because you have hair will not keep their mouths shut about you wearing one. Laughing stock of the community!

I am not talking about being sly as some sort of statement. But I obviously don't look at the world like most of you do. I look at people like Moby and Pep Guardiola and I see goodlooking men. But you people say that they look like sh*t. And you tell me that Statham and Vin Diesel are goodlooking. Those guys look like absolute sh*t in the face.

You are brainwashed by society. And you will only attract women who are as brainwashed as you are.

I say "you", but I am as brainwashed as all the rest. I just don't like the hypermasculine ideal sh*t you guys do.
 

HairPieceMan

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THEY ALL LOOK LIKE sh*t I DONT WANT TO BE ANY OF THEM.

+ statham is in 40s bald, its still wierd to be like this NOW in 20s.
 

sylent

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I kind of agree with you, but I'm only 19 and NW2. I'm holding out to see if my hairloss progresses further. If it does, I will have a more valid opinion on the matter. The only reason I would consider not going on finasteride are the sides. The idea of having a limp dick for the rest of my life is scary. But like I said, when I hit NW3 I may be more desperate, willing to try anything.
 

cs2

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I will quit finasteride after I have children.

Taking drug that change the internal hormone can be harmful to you in long run.

And no one know what will happen to your body, if you takes finasteride for over ten years.

I need my hair to get a girl, family and children. After that i will quit.
 

Agahi

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Its not anywhere near as bad as you are ranting about. Bottom line

10 minutes a day for rogaine foam, and 5 seconds for a pill. The cost is low, and I keep my hair a decent while longer.
 

deadlocks

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What Agahi said. Though, I do get the point of this thread. Kirkland Minoxidil especially is puttin me through this sh*t the OP said, cause my hair becomes too messy to do anything while it's drying.

I feel it's also unrealistic in some way to keep on with heavier regimes, as in RU and ect. But a simple regime just to keep your hair is quite easy (think the Big 3). It's mostly all in the mind really. Yes, being dependable in any way sucks... But if you can do it, and feel better through it, you should do it.
 

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Agree with the last two posts. No different to brushing your teeth or washing your hair in terms of commitment, just slightly more expensive. Worth it provided you don't get sides or do any damage to yourself imo.

Plus most of the guys on here still have a lot of their hair, have spotted the signs of where their hair is headed and are looking to maintain, perhaps regrow a little. Look at the success stories page. A lot of it is pretty legit, hardly guys trying to cling to the last few hairs on their heads.

I agree with you about the guys who let balding destroy their confidence, but let's be real here
 

cxcasca

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Well, the difference is that when I'm brushing my teeth I usually don't check whether my cavities have reduced or gotten worse! And I sure as hell don't take pictures of my teeth every week and show them to people on the internet.

The thing is that I have come to realize that most of the guys here are either narcissists or co-dependents.

You judge yourselves harshly, thinking that you look like sh*t with your bald/balding head. Then you ask others what they think about your hair (and not uncommonly - your looks). And then you extend your harsh, critical view of yourself on to others: "look at Prince William, what a complete wreck he looks like!".

Narcissism and co-dependence are closely linked. Most of you guys are in the co-dependent category (like I am). And here is the real kicker: it is a trait mostly seen in women.
 

cxcasca

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Just to add: I can see that someone with a nearly full head of hair could be happy with just popping a pill. That is if it is working and without side effects. But when you throw the kitchen sink at your shitty hair, using minoxidil, copper peptides and topical AA's with just maintenance as a result, well then I see a real danger of developing OCD. And that could cripple your life more than a slick nw7-dome ever could.
 

Agahi

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Still overeating. 5 seconds for a pill, 15 mins a day for some rogaine foam and a comb through. No stressing, no obsessing.

The goal for anything other than the pill (rogaine copper peptides ect) is to regrow, not maintain. You maintain fine on just finasteride.

I don't see anything wrong with wanting to look how you want to look.

I don't understand why you are on a hairloss forum just to tell us we are crazy or something? You don't see me making topics saying that anyone who doesn't get treatment, and is fine with balding, is wrong. Hell I think that is great.
 

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Most people are just trying to buy some time. I am 29 and I know that one day I will drop the treatments, but definetly not before I am 50. Who knows, maybe there are better treatments in a few years (yeah, I know, we are hearing this for years, but the hope is still remaining).
 

cxcasca

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Again: I am not apposed to people treating their hair loss.

I am just trying to figure out if it is healthy to obsess about with the kitchen sink approach when you have the mindset of "my life will be over if the treatments don't work!". Then you are really setting yourself up for clinical depression.

If you can keep a level head and view any maintenance or regrowth as an added bonus then I am all for it.

Oh, and I am not calling anybody crazy. People can have narcissistic or co-dependent traits without actually having the diagnosis. It's just interesting to think of the fact that that those two personality types tend to attract each other.

No hate! :)
 

Michael84

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cs2 said:
I will quit finasteride after I have children.
Taking drug that change the internal hormone can be harmful to you in long run.
I need my hair to get a girl, family and children. After that i will quit.

Creating something based on something that you intend to quit later, will fail "in the long run". Be natural from the beginning. A girl, family and children may quit you after you quit your hair.
 

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Taking treatments allows you to take control of your hairloss so that you can at the very least slow it down and slowly grow to accept it naturally over a longer period of time.

This is very important psychologically because there are plenty of guys on here who in their early 20s have gone from NW2 -NW5 in the space of a few years without the protection of any treatments and you can see by the negative sh*t they post on here every day that it has seriously traumatised them and caused irrepairable damage to their confidence.

Before treatments I stressed out daily about my hair and what it would look like a few years down the line, but now thanks to the regimen I no longer have to do this because I know for certain now it's not all going to fall out overnight. This is very helpful mentally and allows me to actually enjoy life.
 
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