life is over :[

[The Rake]

That's the biggest BS ever!!!

You are saying, just because a man thinks of a girl as a long term thing, she's supposed to open her legs and shut up? What century do you live in?

I'm not as old as The Dude, but I have been around the block a few times. If she finds out you were pretending to be someone you aren't, she'll be out of the door in a flash. Especially at the beginning of a relationship, where both sides find out things about each other, trust and respect are very important. I mean, would you trust a girl who wears "chicken fillets", would you? Chicken fillets would be a huge turn off for me, I'd rather go out with a small breasted girl who is genuine.

However, if you get a hairpiece after you meet her, and she agrees to it, then it's a different story.

Open her legs and shut up? Who the hell is saying that? You have to talk to her about it. But if she's a girl who you think loves you, who accepts you for your all your flaws, and you admit to her that you wear a hair piece that she's simply going to run out the door?! Just because I'm going out with a girl and I like her, I'm not going to sit her down and pour my guts out by spilling every secret, insecurity, and abnormality (physical, emotional, or otherwise) within the first week of going out with her. Trust me, there are far worse secrets a lot of guys have that they've confessed to long-time partners. Just because a girl wears make-up or dyes her hair, it doesn't make her insincere if she's not quick to admit it to her partner. No one wants to look vulnerable, so if you expect a girl to confess her own "dark past" or whatever the hell you want to call it within the first few months of going out with you, you're delusional.

 

[follicle84]

Here's a couple of pics with someone with a hair peice. What you guys think? I think it looks pretty good.

 

[Thinneritgoes!]

Dudemon - I'm really not trying to rag on you, but wow...

You talk about just forgetting hair transplants, meds, pieces, and accept baldness? You certainly haven't. I made that post either last night or earlier, and I spent my Sunday out having an awesome day. And it looks like you spent it arguing on this post with other guys about what they shouldnt do because you've accepted your baldness? I don't think so.

You act as if you know every woman in the world and their reaction. Forget the fact that they can get emotionally involved with a guy. The second she finds out his hair isn't real, shes gone? Come on. That's just sad. My gf even said she wouldn't mind me getting a piece eventually if I lost all my hair. She said she wants me to do what i want to feel good about myself.

I have real life examples of guys who have worn pieces, told their girls after they were together, and are in fact still happy and together. Check out toplace forums and look at the pics of some of those guys. They can look amazing. So can a lot of hair transplants. But to each his own. All I know, is that I do not want to spend my time on these forums reading guys arguing about what they should and shouldn't do about something that destroyed their lives (male pattern baldness).

 

[Thinneritgoes!]

oh and my girlfriend noticed my toppik one day. I was terrified. I applied it really shitty while she was in my room. i came out and she was looking at me real weird. "whats in your hair? it looks like dust". I told her what it was and why I used and she said "oh, well it looks good" and still compliments my hair some days. SHE DIDNT RUN FOR THE DOOR FOR THAT.

 

[The Rake]

And every time they mention a hair transplant, it's "hair plugs." Point being, why would you go ask a group of women for hair loss advice?

 

[Thickandthin]

dudemon, where did you get your hair transplants done? and when?

There are some amazing results these days. Hasson and Wong in particular. Look up NicNitro, Jotronic, London Lad, etc. All NW5+ who are no longer even in the vicinity of being considered bald. Other doctors are doing top notch work too.

Of course not everyone is a perfect candidate, and if the conditions aren't right you might end up with a fine dusting of hair on your head - but there is still hope for a lot of guys out there.

 

[Thickandthin]

good story dudemon.

do you think if you had gone to a better clinic for your first hair transplant, you would be in a better position now?

was your lack of hair transplant success due to that, or poor donor density/scalp laxity?

also, can your hair be "toppiked" and look acceptably full?

 

[DonaldAnderson]

It is a terrible thing. My hairline was made fun of when I was young. Also I was not very good looking. :shock: I never had hair in my temples ever. :dunno: It impacted me terribly trying to make friends. Somehow the hairloss did not get much worse and years later I am at a nw2-3. I have learned to be confident in myself and thats the most important thing, right? uke:

 

[ClayShaw]

Dudemon, if this is too personal, feel free to tell me to f*** off...
That said, I have a question for you.
I see myself going the "hermit" route that you took. How do you deal with not getting laid for long periods of time (5+ years)? Drugs? Alcohol?

 

[Gboy2k8]

I didnt get lay for 22 years
birthday on september

 

[ali777]

I didnt get lay for 22 years
birthday on september

You are not ugly... If you can't get laid, that means you are doing something wrong. Change the way you approach girls, or make an effort to socialise a bit.

 

[ClayShaw]

I didnt get lay for 22 years
birthday on september

I hope those years were ages 0-22.

 

[Gboy2k8]

I didnt get lay for 22 years
birthday on september

You are not ugly... If you can't get laid, that means you are doing something wrong. Change the way you approach girls, or make an effort to socialise a bit.

Not ugly, but also not that un ugly.
adding the wrong attitude
=
0

 

[uncomfortable man]

My heart is feeling torn between what Dudemon and the rake are arguing about. I want to get an hair transplant, however many it would take to get me back to normal and if after having a detailed consultation with more than one clinic, it is obvious that I'm too far gone for hair transplants then I would want to get a good hair system. I just want to have hair again and feel complete. Do you think that accepting baldness and all the crap that comes with it a victory?

 

[ClayShaw]

My heart is feeling torn between what Dudemon and the rake are arguing about. I want to get an hair transplant, however many it would take to get me back to normal and if after having a detailed consultation with more than one clinic, it is obvious that I'm too far gone for hair transplants then I would want to get a good hair system. I just want to have hair again and feel complete. Do you think that accepting baldness and all the crap that comes with it a victory?

UM, I remember you posted a pic of you drinking a fat tire on here a while back. Your hair loss didn't seem to extensive for an hair transplant, especially if its not progressing further. I mean, it's pretty stable, right? And if you have thick donor hair, you could get some work done. Maybe not a thick, low hair line, but I don't think you have to be bald.
I'm against transplants for me because I'll never f*** with Propecia. If you're no longer losing hair, you don't even need it.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Although my hairloss hasn't changed much in the last three years, I would have to have uncharacteristicly thick donor hair to give me that same edge that Jotronic or London Lad had. I've been told my donor is average at best. I just need to sit down with Feller and H&W and see what they can do. Although the dude may scare me about hair transplants, I try to keep in mind that his experience (as well as SAF's) were exceptionally bad ones and if I go to the best from the start and use my donor wisely, then chances are I would come out better than the both of them. I have no problem using toppik, granted I have enough hair on top to make the illusion believable. Once my head donor is gone and depending on the results, I would pursue BHT to finish the job. I appreciate the input that the dude and SAF give, but I need to hear from a licensed professional if I am beyond hope or not.

 

[s.a.f]

From what I've seen UCman is already a NW5 and has been for a few years, I believe (purely a non scientific judgement) that he's probably not going to lose much more hair maybe he'll eventually hit NW6 when he's an old man. But if I had to guess I'd say that if his donor is average he could probably get a thin NW2 appearance. Jotronic's donor characteristics were rated by H&W as only 3/10 and with less than 8000 grafts he's got a result that even without concealers I'm sure UCman would be ecstatic about, definatly happier than he is now.
As to how the donor scar looks thats abit of a gamble it depends once again on your own charateristics. But going to one of the top clinics put you in a decent starting position.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Fwiw, I would want to have already been on Propecia for at least a year before I get any work done- for the obvious reasons, prevent as much shockloss as possible and to maintain my "at risk" hairs around the edge of my horseshoe. But to be honest, I don't think I have alot more hair to loose which could be good from an hair transplant point of view. :dunno:

 

[Thickandthin]

Dudemon, any chance of us seeing a picture of your hair?

It might not be as bad as you think, and letting us see it might give you some perspective on how others view it.

 

[ali777]

Dudemon, any chance of us seeing a picture of your hair?

It might not be as bad as you think, and letting us see it might give you some perspective on how others view it.

I asked him a few times, he won't post a pic... Frankly, I don't believe him. He might be below average, but that doesn't mean he's ugly....