Lol?? Finasteride WTF??!

[BrianP]

So i decided to give finasteride a go once again and well im on day 4 of finasteride and having pretty awful sides??

This is not in my head cuz last time i tried i did notice a small decrease in my libido but nothing that would affect me a lot..

Well this time im on day 4 and today i decided to jerk off and i gave up after 15 mins, had to make real effort just to keep it hard even though i wanted to masturbate..

Before you say anything, im a steroid user = inject testosterone every week so my test lvls are at least 5 times higher than anyone who is natural... Im usually HORNY AS **** and always masturbate like 2-4 times/day average and now even when i try its hard to do it..

This is ****ed up how finasteride can **** u up in 4 days only lol

Today was the last time im taking this ****, quitting tomorrow and hopefully my dick will be a bit better by saturday at least so i can enjoy the weekend --'

 

[JZA70]

I got ED after about a week of use, never encountered anything like it in my life.

I took the pill and forgot about it but when it was time to play with the eggroll, things weren't working so well.

Try alternatives like CB or RU. Hellouser has a RU log that's really helpful.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

Jeez! It is amazing that a drug this dangerous, has been around for 25 years. A drug that now is giving sides to everybody who takes it. How could it have been in use for such a long time and be this dangerous? I just don't get it. You would think that we would have heard about all of this stuff 20 years ago and Merck would already be out of business from all of the law suits. Where did all these people go that took the drug 25 years ago? Have they all been killed off to hide Merck's secret? There should have been millions of guys walking around for years talking about their terrible sides. Why is all of this just coming out now? Why is it mostly guys in their late teens/early 20's that are having all these horrible sides? I am not saying that finasteride cannot cause sides. That is definitely not what I am saying, but this crap is getting way beyond ridiculous. THIS IS NOT A NEW DRUG! This is your classic snow ball effect and it is so out of control, it is not even funny. So many dudes are going bald because of all of this misinformation.

 

[JZA70]

I'm sorry that we got sides ?

We only learned about finasteride inhibiting neurosteroids in the late 2000's. More and more evidence is stacking against this "safe drug."

 

[BrianP]

JZA70 - Did u quit fina or kept using it?

Notcoolanymore - I guarantee u its not in my mind cuz the first time i took it for 3 months my libido was just down but nothing like now and i already knew the side effects...

Its not just coming out now, the thing is that 20 years ago.. even 10 years ago or 5 years old internet wasnt used as much as now then how would u know if John from another country was having ED from fina?? John didnt use internet a lot so he wouldnt even bother finding a forum and posting about it... he would just quit fina and move on..

Either way im thinking about continuing with 1 mg EOD.. Some people say that once your body gets used with the low DHT levels then ur libido and other sides diminish or go away for good.. Others say it only gets worse lol

Not sure what im gonna do :// and Notcoolanymore, If u had taken injectable testosterone as much as i have then u would know what im going throught.. how it feels to go from a ****ing 13 year old virgin libido 24/7 to a 70 year old man in a matter of days lol

 

[JZA70]

Of course I quit, I threw that sh1t in the garbage. I suppose you do the same and seek alternative treatments.

It's like we're not allowed to have sides, it's always in our heads. So delusional.

Let's not start another finasteride war.

 

[Ptrt]

Don't you think it's kind of silly to take finasteride when you're taking roids?

 

[JZA70]

Don't you think it's kind of silly to take finasteride when you're taking roids?

It's pretty common for bodybuilders to use finasteride when they're on a cycle.

OP, this link might help you - http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...hypogonadism-help-hormon-status-included.html

 

[JHCL1990]

I'm on day 3 of finasteride and have only noticed INCREASED sex drive and BETTER mood, but I'm also taking many other supplements, including DIM-Plus and ZMA.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

i already knew the side effects...

the thing is that 20 years ago.. even 10 years ago or 5 years old internet wasnt used as much as now

Exactly!!!

Again, I am not saying that sides do not exist. But the incidence of sides is just ridiculous on the internet. You don't need the internet during clinical trials. I find it hard to believe during clinical trials only a hand full of guys(if even that much got sides), now everybody is getting them??? Just sounds like BS.

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I'm sorry that we got sides ?

We only learned about finasteride inhibiting neurosteroids in the late 2000's. More and more evidence is stacking against this "safe drug."

I get what you are saying about every thing we are learning about neurosteroids and everything, but sides should show up whether or not you know about it or not. It shouldn't be: "I have been using the drug side free for years, oh now I learned about the hormones and neurosteroids and now I am impotent." Just doesn't work that way. I am not saying that you in particular did not get sides but all these guys are not getting sides. Even if you believe this is all just one big Merck conspiracy, it just doesn't make sense that before the internet fear mongering people were tolerating finasteride just fine. Now that you have people spreading their experiences or other experiences all over the internet, now we are all getting sides.

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I'm on day 3 of finasteride and have only noticed INCREASED sex drive and BETTER mood, but I'm also taking many other supplements, including DIM-Plus and ZMA.

If you are having success with finasteride, I would recommend you stay away from threads like these. They will get you second guessing your decision to use finasteride.

 

[cheesy_86]

finasteride and sides is a funny one. I personally don't believe that interfering with your endocrine system in the long term is a good idea. Drugs containing finasteride were intended to be used for a short period to combat the symptoms of benign prostate hyperplasia in old men. Not to be used constantly for several decades by young men at their sexual, physical and mental peak. In fact nobody has any idea what the long term impacts are. I am not aware of a single finasteride study which goes beyond 5 years, most of which are 1 year. I believe that taking a drug for years on end, every day will permanently alter the body's functioning no matter what drug it is, even paracetemol.

But then I am not promoting any fearmongering either. Each person should make their own choice, its their life, their hair and their bodies.

I am highly dubious of any Merck studies into the drug, but acknowledge there have been independent studies that show sides to be relatively low, although again these are not long term studies. I presume people have heard of Rofecoxib?! If not then Google it, a drug which lead to over a hundred thousand cases of serious heart disease and of which Merck have been convicted of lying to doctors and patients about its impacts, of which they were fully aware.

I'm not saying this is the case of Propecia, but those who think drug companies have morals when hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake are just kidding themselves.

 

[xRedStaRx]

Study on Finasteride + Nocebo http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17655657/ 122 patients

10-year study using 1 mg http://www.haargroeispecialist.nl/resources/product-files/files/Finasteride-10-year-follow-up.pdf 118 men, only 4 had erection problems

7-year study using 5 mg http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17596576/ 17,313 men slight increase in sexual dysfunction score comparable to normal aging

4-year study using 5 mg http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12639651 3,040 men, incidence of SEs was double placebo in the first year, same as placebo after that

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15262698 No side effects

And I didn't even post the studies relating to the unimportance of DHT to erection and libido.

 

[JZA70]

And I didn't even post the studies relating to the unimportance of DHT to erection and libido.

So why do so many men suffer ED ?

 

[xRedStaRx]

So why do so many men suffer ED ?

How much more men don't suffer from ED?

How many men suffer from ED naturally? 2-3%? And how many suffer from ED on finasteride?

You are asking the wrong questions.

 

[JZA70]

How much more men don't suffer from ED?

How many men suffer from ED naturally? 2-3%? And how many suffer from ED on finasteride?

You are asking the wrong questions.

Very true.

 

[Grammaton Cleric]

What Dr. Broscience fails to show is a study to follow up on men who stopped taking finasteride, hence POST finasteride syndrome

 

[JZA70]

I notice a lot of the time everyone always throws the guys with sides under the bus and forgets about them.

I understand that it may be a subset of guys who get sides, but I still want to know WHY they get them.

If DHT is completely irrelevant for sexual function, WHY do these healthy young men suffer from ED ?

Redstar, take a couple minutes and read through this and let me know your thoughts - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4064044/

 

[Quadzilla99]

This belongs here:

 

[JZA70]

Yeap guess everyone is just going to ignore my link and pretend it's not there.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

I notice a lot of the time everyone always throws the guys with sides under the bus and forgets about them.

This is true. I know sometimes I may be guilty of it myself, but I really mean no disrespect. These sex sides are serious stuff and should not be treated lightly. I honestly feel for the dudes that are really suffering. I just don't believe that everybody who is claiming to get sides, is actually getting sides. I am not saying all, but many of the guys that claim sides are mainly suffering from paranoia.