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As I suggested, go through his timeline from a year ago and see the difference for yourself. It's really up to you if you want change. There is no such thing as an overnight cure. That's just stupid to buy in to. But are there new options with new technology? Hell yes! You don't wanna then don't. Stick to what hasn't worked bit continues to cost out your *** but maybe one day you'll finally get results... maybe.

Sorry y'all don't mean that as bitchy as it soinds but damn! Wake up!!! At least try... I don't give a flying f*** if you order from me (and I might get kicked out for this comment) but at least open your mind to the new technology out there that can possibly help you.

That's all. Kick me out if you must, sh*t... you can lead a horse to water... y'al do what's best for you. Lots of luck

Can you please tell me more about this product? What makes it as effective as it is?
 

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Can you please tell me more about this product? What makes it as effective as it is?
Lol. I hope you are joking or trolling. The women is selling the product and trying to take advantage of desperate guys out there. There is no miracle cure for baldness. Especially no “natural cures” like this women is claiming. Rogaine and propecia are the only medicines proven to be effective against fighting baldness.

It’s snake oil if it worked every Doctor and store would be selling it. It’s snake oil.

FYI if you are trolling please stop don’t encourage these types of people to post. When I first started balding got taken advantage of and bought products that claimed to restore hair. Let me tell you most don’t work. I would hate to see it happen to others
 

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I am sad for you; that you'v been used and taken advantage of to the point of being bitter. Don't misunderstand me, I do relate. I might be a woman but I've also struggled with my own hairloss issues. I know of two products that have actually created results. Yes, they are new on the market, one I represent (by accident) the other I don't. What I do know is how it feels to be promised results, you invest, you see no change. I also know how it feels to hide the thinning areas and pray the wind doesn't blow so you'r not outed.

I'm not here to dupe any one or scam anyone. I'm simply sharing my results. New products, new technology, new opportunities... it's up to you.

I apoligize if I've offended you, that was never my intent. I'm just so happy with my results, especially after 20+ years of hairloss and feeling insecure, why wouldn't I share with everyone? Wouldn't you???
I am sad for you; that you'v been used and taken advantage of to the point of being bitter. Don't misunderstand me, I do relate. I might be a woman but I've also struggled with my own hairloss issues. I know of two products that have actually created results. Yes, they are new on the market, one I represent (by accident) the other I don't. What I do know is how it feels to be promised results, you invest, you see no change. I also know how it feels to hide the thinning areas and pray the wind doesn't blow so you'r not outed.

I'm not here to dupe any one or scam anyone. I'm simply sharing my results. New products, new technology, new opportunities... it's up to you.

I apoligize if I've offended you, that was never my intent. I'm just so happy with my results, especially after 20+ years of hairloss and feeling insecure, why wouldn't I share with everyone? Wouldn't you???

It’s one thing to share a product you think is great and quite another to get on a website designed to help people with a genetic condition they are desperate to cure and push a product YOU MAKE MONEY off of.

Honestly you’re responses and posts don’t even seem that sincere they sound like they were copied right out of the sales manual.

Every snake oil company has before and after pictures and yours are some of the worst. The guy you keep mentioning, Jason, took the before/after pictures in different lightings. And with longer hair length to make the “after pictures” look better. Not to mention I can see the concealer on his scalp in the “afters” also

Please consider your ethics. I know you must not be in the best financial situation yourself but that is not an excuse to take advantage of desperate people
 

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It’s one thing to share a product you think is great and quite another to get on a website designed to help people with a genetic condition they are desperate to cure and push a product YOU MAKE MONEY off of.

Honestly you’re responses and posts don’t even seem that sincere they sound like they were copied right out of the sales manual.

Every snake oil company has before and after pictures and yours are some of the worst. The guy you keep mentioning, Jason, took the before/after pictures in different lightings. And with longer hair length to make the “after pictures” look better. Not to mention I can see the concealer on his scalp in the “afters” also

Please consider your ethics. I know you must not be in the best financial situation yourself but that is not an excuse to take advantage of desperate people

Well spoken. She got banned now, got no new customers and just had her time wasted. Probably even a dude lol
 

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Well spoken. She got banned now, got no new customers and just had her time wasted. Probably even a dude lol


Lol thank god she was annoying. She did write like a women so not so sure if she was a dude. But everything she wrote looked pre-written so could just be a guy copying a pasting stuff from a script.
 

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Wtf? At what point did I say that balding men should give up? All I'm saying is that not everyone looks as good bald as they do with hair. And that's a fact, wether you decide to refute it or not.

Yes, he has improved his life, he has kids wife etc and that's good. But do you seriously believe that you'll be seen as good without hair than with? Just think logically

My point is that there are options. The guy states medications as extremely dangerous blabla and refuses to talk about them whatsoever.

And to answer your question, I'm 18, and I've gotten laid more than all of your fingers combined. So stop with that bullshit. ''hurr durr ure whining about balding u must be such an insecure guy''. Firstly, no one knows that I'm balding, and I've never brought it up to anyone irl. Everyone thinks I am extremely confident. But balding does actually make you depressed, believe it or not.

Spoken like a true gentlemen. Your getting laid so much why are you so worked up? Good for you. Did I say that a shaved head looks better than hair? Again, Im not really sure why your getting so worked up squirt. And if you want to treat your thinning go for it. Everyone is entitled to use whatever treatments they see fit. It's a personal choice and if it's working for you great..The reason I approached you the way I did is because there seems to be a nice collection of nancies on this site that get off on bashing guys that choose to shave or not treat hairloss. It's so self defeating and ridiculous.
 

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Spoken like a true gentlemen. Your getting laid so much why are you so worked up? Good for you. Did I say that a shaved head looks better than hair? Again, Im not really sure why your getting so worked up squirt. And if you want to treat your thinning go for it. Everyone is entitled to use whatever treatments they see fit. It's a personal choice and if it's working for you great..The reason I approached you the way I did is because there seems to be a nice collection of nancies on this site that get off on bashing guys that choose to shave or not treat hairloss. It's so self defeating and ridiculous.

Can't tell if you're being serious with the first statement, but the main reason why I got worked up is because there are so many people that I've know irl/read about online/etc that have been told to just ''shave it off'', but it doesn't suit everyone, certainly not me. But ye, you're right, at the end of the day everyone's entitled to their own decision of what to do.

My brother is one of those guys who have decided to not do anything about it, and I'm completely fine with that. It's just the fact that this guy addresses treatments as if they're insanely stupid to take. Why? Because just shave it off bro! Grow a beard, go to the gym and wear nicer clothes. It's like coping in a way. I just feel like you should be able to hear every side of the story before you make your decision. There are so many people that are balding that are simply clueless about treatments. I were one of those exactly 6 months ago. Hell, the only thing I thought MIGHT WOULD'VE worked were snake oils and such bs. Also, the only thing I've heard that youtuber recommend is rosemary oil (?). Why not just minoxidil? It is FDA-approved and a much better choice for treating hairloss.

But yeah, overall I agree with what you said. It's true that too many bash people for shaving off, but not everyone pulls off that look. Especially if you're at my age where you can't even grow a proper beard lol. It's easy for the 40 year old to talk about ''shaving it off'', because he's at a stage in life where it won't affect anything for him.

If I decided to shave my hair off entirely tomorrow, at the age of 18, do you think the reaction of my school, my friends, gf, etc would be positive? Would they see it as ''bold'' or would they see it as if I have some kind of disease? That's atleast what the guy advocates, to shave it off. But he's at an age where it doesn't affect him as much as it would affect some of us that are younger.

All in all I think he should atleast address that there are ways to stop thinning/male pattern baldness if you're looking to go the medical route. Instead, he's just advocating for the same mentality of so many others that AREN'T EVEN BALD yet, like himself. Even though he's NW3 at 37, he's got very good leverages to hide it and style it in a way that it doesn't make him look balding to the unexperienced eye.
 

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Fair points. I started experiencing hairloss at a young age like yourself. And it's especially hard when this happens. Im now 37 so Ive been around the block a bit. Ive been on and off treatments for years but probably spent more time off than on. Ive never been on the most potent weapons at once (finasteride + minoxidil)..Im just again trying to make the Foam a consistent part of my routine. Thinking about Finasteride but who knows. Ive never shaved my head for many of the reasons you state. I was convinced I would be bald by now when I was your age. Im not but suffering from extremely diffuse thinning.

I really got alot of attention from females when I was younger. I worked out all the time and looked pretty good. The hairloss really impacted my self esteem for a long time. Honestly, I think that was the biggest issue over anything else...That and I knew what it was like to get all that attention before. But at a certain point it stopped bothering me. It never completely stopped but today its not really much of a concern. The truth is that I got more play after my hairloss than before. Some of that is just maturing and learning how things actually work. Before I just depended on looks 100% of the time. My point is I get why this other guys points come into play. Nobody should waste much time worrying about hairloss. I get your points as well. The shaved head thing isnt necessarily for everyone and you need to do what makes sense for you...My cousin told me last summer to get on Propecia because one of his friends takes it and it works. He said the guy is a player and hasnt missed a beat since taking it. However, he doesnt realize that there are risks involved as with most drugs.
Listen, Im now married and my wife is pretty hot. I have a kid and another on the way. My point is I ended up exactly where I wanted to in life. I just wish I didnt let the whole hairloss thing dampen so many years of my life. Im telling you this because you shouldnt let it do that either. If you want to treat it go right ahead. Do your research and understand the risks as well as fet checked out by a doctor every year. As you get older you need to understand and let healthcare professionals know you are on Propecia. The reason is it can mask test results for certain cancers. There is a rule in thumb about how to judge tests for someone on this drug. You want to make sure something isnt overlooked because of the drug. Otherwise, do not look back. What you think is so serious I assure you is not. I ve been successful with women and so many others have as well.
 

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Never seen a 8+ girl go for someone that's bald. I'm not looking for 5/10 girls lol. My point is why not fix your hair with current medication? I've legit never seen anyone that can go from ugly to beautiful by shaving their head. And that's from NW1 to bald, not some nw4 to bald, that's another thing

I’m not saying you shouldn’t fix your hair, on the contrary in fact.

However, I’m saying it’s a minor, minor detail not worth obsessing about/guys being down on themselves about.

No idea what you’d call an 8/10 but there are loads of women I know who’d fall into that. Here’s some famous ones though:

Salma Hayek
Ashley Olsen
Amber Tamblyn

Google can find you a lot more but I see it all the time. If a guy is successful in whatever they do in life, that is 10x as attractive as a full head of hair will ever be, at least in terms of more than the most superficial of attractiveness as judged by 15YO high school girls.

Btw I’ve no doubts that you believe what you’re saying but it’s pretty well established that whenever someone holds a strong view, they see and remember evidence to support that view and filter out anything opposing it.

Because seriously, it’s one of the most commonly accepted “complaints” by guys who are poor that ugly/old/bald guys with money get all the hot chicks but on this forum it’s more like all the good looking guys with full hair get all the girls. Then, if you go to a fat guys forum I’m sure everyone is saying all the guys in shape get girls etc etc. I’m sure there are forums for guys with small dicks where everyone is saying it’s the guys with 10 inch dicks who get all the hot chicks lol.
 
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I’m not saying you shouldn’t fix your hair, on the contrary in fact.

However, I’m saying it’s a minor, minor detail not worth obsessing about/guys being down on themselves about.

No idea what you’d call an 8/10 but there are loads of women I know who’d fall into that. Here’s some famous ones though:

Salma Hayek
Ashley Olsen
Amber Tamblyn

Google can find you a lot more but I see it all the time. If a guy is successful in whatever they do in life, that is 10x as attractive as a full head of hair will ever be, at least in terms of more than the most superficial of attractiveness as judged by 15YO high school girls.

Btw I’ve no doubts that you believe what you’re saying but it’s pretty well established that whenever someone holds a strong view, they see and remember evidence to support that view and filter out anything opposing it.

Because seriously, it’s one of the most commonly accepted “complaints” by guys who are poor that ugly/old/bald guys with money get all the hot chicks but on this forum it’s more like all the good looking guys with full hair get all the girls. Then, if you go to a fat guys forum I’m sure everyone is saying all the guys in shape get girls etc etc. I’m sure there are forums for guys with small dicks where everyone is saying it’s the guys with 10 inch dicks who get all the hot chicks lol.

Personally @Athlete1987 and @Alphalete I find both your arguments ridiculous. Having been balding since a young age I can say without a doubt that it definitely effects dating life especially when you are younger. I am about to turn 24 and even in my mid twenties many of my female friends who are in my dating range 23-27 describe wanting a man with a full head of hair, or described being lucky that boyfriends/ husbands still have a full head. Many who date or married bald men make the occasional jest about how great their boyfriends are it’s just that they are bald. So blading is not the end all be all of dating but it is definitely a plus to have hair. Most studies support that women of any age find men more attractive who are not balding.

I support doing everything you can to stop hair loss but after you have tried and done everything you can do rogaine, propecia, and transplant. You should stop obsessing over something you can’t change. I see a lot of bitter Norwood 6 and 7 on here who would be better off focusing on something else rather than; balding makes my life suck and there’s nothing I can do about it.

Honestly I really can’t stand the people who say “just shave it and workout”. Working out has a lot to do with genetics also. I tried tracking my macros multiple times since I was young and never gained any significant improvement even after a year of consistently going to the gym. A guy at the gym told me I was a hard gainer.

Basically save your hair if you can because it does matter in dating and life in general. But if you can’t it’s better to get on with life rather than focusing on something you can’t change.
 
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Personally athlete1987 and alphalete I find both your arguments ridiculous. Having been balding since a young age I can say without a doubt that it definitely effects dating life especially when you are younger. I am about to turn 24 and even in my mid twenties many of my female friends who are in my dating range 23-27 describe wanting a man with a full head of hair, or described being lucky that boyfriends/ husbands still have a full head. Many who date or married bald men make the occasional jest about how great their boyfriends are it’s just that they are bald. So blading is not the end all be all of dating but it is definitely a plus to have hair. Most studies support that women of any age find men more attractive who are not balding.
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1. Never trust what a woman says.
2, Believe what they do

In the post you make you actually back up their view cos while they may say they want a guy with hair the facts are they do date or marry bald mend.

FWIW, I dont think alphalete or athlete have denied women prefer a man with a full hair. What they are saying instead is it is a minor thing, easily looked past if you bring other things to the table. I mean check out the dude whose with Salma Hayek. She'd be an 11/10 so if she can look past hairline (and looks), I am sure other women can. The difference is the guys who pull the hot chicks don't complain and moan on forums about how unlucky in life they are.
 

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I’m not saying you shouldn’t fix your hair, on the contrary in fact.

However, I’m saying it’s a minor, minor detail not worth obsessing about/guys being down on themselves about.

No idea what you’d call an 8/10 but there are loads of women I know who’d fall into that. Here’s some famous ones though:

Salma Hayek
Ashley Olsen
Amber Tamblyn

Google can find you a lot more but I see it all the time. If a guy is successful in whatever they do in life, that is 10x as attractive as a full head of hair will ever be, at least in terms of more than the most superficial of attractiveness as judged by 15YO high school girls.

Btw I’ve no doubts that you believe what you’re saying but it’s pretty well established that whenever someone holds a strong view, they see and remember evidence to support that view and filter out anything opposing it.

Because seriously, it’s one of the most commonly accepted “complaints” by guys who are poor that ugly/old/bald guys with money get all the hot chicks but on this forum it’s more like all the good looking guys with full hair get all the girls. Then, if you go to a fat guys forum I’m sure everyone is saying all the guys in shape get girls etc etc. I’m sure there are forums for guys with small dicks where everyone is saying it’s the guys with 10 inch dicks who get all the hot chicks lol.

Hey man I get that you are trying to help but the “ tough love” approach isn’t really a good way to help here.

IRL the majority of responses you get from normies are things like “just shave it and forget about it” or “wtf you complaining about you don’t have cancer”.

I started noticeably balding at a young age 16 junior year of high school and the amount of sh*t people gave me junior/ senior year for being bald made my life hell. It’s funny I remember freshmen and sophomore year being some of the happiest carefree years of my life and junior/senior year being just an isolateing lonely experience. Honestly, it’s one thing to say forget about it and move on quite another when you are being constantly reminded of something by other people.

I’m much older now and realize a lot of that was HIghschool BS. But even so try to have a little sympathy. Balding is tough especially for young guys. IRL all people are going to tell them is tough luck, no sympathy, and just deal. Please try to be a bit more understanding
 

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1. Never trust what a woman says.
2, Believe what they do

In the post you make you actually back up their view cos while they may say they want a guy with hair the facts are they do date or marry bald mend.

FWIW, I dont think alphalete or athlete have denied women prefer a man with a full hair. What they are saying instead is it is a minor thing, easily looked past if you bring other things to the table. I mean check out the dude whose with Salma Hayek. She'd be an 11/10 so if she can look past hairline (and looks), I am sure other women can. The difference is the guys who pull the hot chicks don't complain and moan on forums about how unlucky in life they are.

Guy read my whole post next time. Bc nothing you wrote is in line with what I said.

Women are socially conditioned to be nice. If you ask a women “does having hair matter?” And she knows you are coming from a place of insecurity obviously she will tell you hair doesn’t matter.

What I am talking about is what my female friends have said is passing or things I overheard them say to other women. Which in my opinion makes it more genuine .

I’m actually taking a middle view between the two people I mentioned. They are taking two opposing views of the spectrum.

Also I clearly state hair matters but it’s not so bad to end your chances of dating.

Salma is a bit above my age range but I do see your point it’s definitely possible to get girls without hair.

I do think hair maters less with age though. I have a lot of sympathy for guys <20years old who are significantly balding; hair loss will definitely effect their social life.
 
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The whole Shave it of approach might appeal to some , but it depends on the persons face shape etc ...
The just hit the gym etc approach is annoying also ...
As I know alot of girls in there 20z etc who Think the guys with a shaved head and hitting the gym to much intimidating and non attractive,
I’ve friends who have shaved there head most there lives and ended up balding but no one really notices it as much in my opinion as opposed to being used to someone with hair then one day seeing them bald , it goes on an individuals confidence level
Also , This guy on YouTube is married and late 30z at least Wouldn’t even devote any time to watching someone’s video like that
, I always advise people to do what makes them happy personally I take meds as I don’t like the fact of loosing my hair and if that fails hairpieces are quite good nowadays though unfortunately lots of the companies charge crazy prices , and there’s hair transplants also If I’d the cash personally I’d get a transplant
 

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The whole Shave it of approach might appeal to some , but it depends on the persons face shape etc ...
The just hit the gym etc approach is annoying also ...
As I know alot of girls in there 20z etc who Think the guys with a shaved head and hitting the gym to much intimidating and non attractive,
I’ve friends who have shaved there head most there lives and ended up balding but no one really notices it as much in my opinion as opposed to being used to someone with hair then one day seeing them bald , it goes on an individuals confidence level
Also , This guy on YouTube is married and late 30z at least Wouldn’t even devote any time to watching someone’s video like that
, I always advise people to do what makes them happy personally I take meds as I don’t like the fact of loosing my hair and if that fails hairpieces are quite good nowadays though unfortunately lots of the companies charge crazy prices , and there’s hair transplants also If I’d the cash personally I’d get a transplant

I've got the same plan. Gonna be on meds (holding off on propecia atm due to age), but once I get on I'll use them til they are no longer working. After that, I'll be heading the hairpiece route.
 

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You should see how it looks the next day after sleep that you gotta sleep like a fetus. Or ten days later when the sun will have transformed the “hypoallergic-strong” glue into a green, leaky mess. Fun times, grab your ear buds we are going to war.

What if you sleep with a beanie on? Won't that keep your hair in place? :D

Got any videos/pics you can show me of how it looks after a couple of days?
 

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The back part is hitting the pillow and feels like it’s gonna push forward. It automatically makes u sleep like h3h3 does when he cringes. Say hello to neck problems. I can’t show you cause I don’t wear one but when I used to lmao that glue man... when you had to get paper to get it off and reapply or push the base to the skin with no glue on, this sh*t is so f*****g ridiculous but one thing I can tell u is that the feeling u get during the placement and haircut is far better than having sex. It’s the ultimate happiness, I still remember it. Futile tho.

So what ultimately made you quit using yours? Was it because of the pain or just that you perhaps felt like you were ''stuck to it?''
 
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