Low DHT caused chronic prostatitis

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Hay guys

I was wondering if anyone could help me out with my problem.

I've been taking propecia for about 5 yrs (26) with no worries.. in the last 2 years it started to lose its effectiveness so on advice from forums I upped the dose from 1 mg (recommended) to 2 mgs..

Everything seemed fine except for the fact that I could feel that the drug was hitting me way more intensely..

To summarize I developed chronic prostatitis as diagnosed from a urologist..

I immediately stopped taking the drug and over a period of 1-2 months my prostate started getting better..

But because I don't want to go bald I started taking a quarter dose (0.25mgs), first two days nothing but now as it stands I have the prostate problem again..

I really don't want to mess with my hormones in case of causing permanent damage, it sounds stupid but I also don't want to go bald..

My cousin was really into bodybuilding and messed with a lot of stuff, he had a similar prostate problem not from propecia and what he did is masturbate repeatedly (clear out prostate) and took a shot of T.. It worked out for him

Any help/advice would really be appreciated

 

[Chris87]

Hay guys

I was wondering if anyone could help me out with my problem.

I've been taking propecia for about 5 yrs (26) with no worries.. in the last 2 years it started to lose its effectiveness so on advice from forums I upped the dose from 1 mg (recommended) to 2 mgs..

Everything seemed fine except for the fact that I could feel that the drug was hitting me way more intensely..

To summarize I developed chronic prostatitis as diagnosed from a urologist..

I immediately stopped taking the drug and over a period of 1-2 months my prostate started getting better..

But because I don't want to go bald I started taking a quarter dose (0.25mgs), first two days nothing but now as it stands I have the prostate problem again..

I really don't want to mess with my hormones in case of causing permanent damage, it sounds stupid but I also don't want to go bald..

My cousin was really into bodybuilding and messed with a lot of stuff, he had a similar prostate problem not from propecia and what he did is masturbate repeatedly (clear out prostate) and took a shot of T.. It worked out for him

Any help/advice would really be appreciated

Could anyone explain how finasteride could possibly cause prostitis? I mean..if it reduces the size of the prostate..how could it cause it to become inflamed or enlarged?

 

[damielmillo]

I had the similar experience like you.
I developed Prostatitis due to Propecia 1 year ago... it is due to low DHT.
The only solution is not take anymore this poison...you can have permanent damage, not only in your prostate, also in your brain and obviously in your sexual performance for life.
Take care...

 

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Jeez you got me worried..

I made the mistake of going back to it as you see in my post..

Hoping this hasn't caused further damage.

how long did it take for you to get back to health?

Was there anything you did to increase/speed up the healing process?

 

[Wuffer]

I had the similar experience like you.
I developed Prostatitis due to Propecia 1 year ago... it is due to low DHT.
The only solution is not take anymore this poison...you can have permanent damage, not only in your prostate, also in your brain and obviously in your sexual performance for life.
Take care...

First of all, don't listen to this guy; he's just trying to scare you and is not offering any useful advice.

Now if you noticed that finasteride was hitting you harder at 2mg it was likely just in your head. The systemic effect of 0.5mg, 1mg, 2mg, 5mg are all almost identical in terms of DHT inhibition. During the FDA trials for Proscar, men were even given 80mg daily doses for weeks with no issues.

To my knowledge, there has been absolutely no causal link made between finasteride and prostatitis. In fact (fun fact of the day) finasteride has been shown helpful in actually treating the symptoms of the condition!
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 4705627152

How did your doctor diagnose this issue? Was it a result of a run-up to diagnose some symptoms you were having, or just found during a routine examination? I recall reading one study (trying to find it) that showed 5-20% of all young men actually have asymptomatic prostatitis, so it is definitely possible that you have had it all along.

As was said, prostatitis is inflammation of the prostate. Finasteride atrophy’s the prostate, which doesn’t exactly make sense. I’m not saying it’s entirely impossible that the drug has caused the problem, but science hasn’t shown any sort of a causal link. And there is a lot of strong data behind the drug; there was a long-term study for prostate cancer that involved almost 20,000 men. This showed no increased incidence rates of prostatitis that I recall.

 

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I disagree

Just because there was no scientific study linking finasteride and prostatitis it doesn't mean it doesn't occur.

In fact its largely unknown what the actually function of DHT is.

Men with hair and bald men are found to have the same amount of DHT.

Here's a drug thats limiting DHT, something that occurs naturally in us and is found in the prostate, hence the reason finasteride decreases the size of the prostate but that doesn't mean that DHT is bad and in fact there is a study that says that DHT is actually essential for the health of one's prostate.

In addition initially I believed exactly what your saying "how can finasteride cause prostatitis when it decreases the size of the prostate".. but when i went back onto finasteride my prostate symptoms came back..

In other words its directly related to my prostatitis problem..

By the way the guy who diagnosed it was a professor of urology ..

 

[Wuffer]

That is a valid argument, and you are correct; studies have not yet ruled this out as a possible side effect. However as I mentioned, there exist several long-term studies done on finasteride that involve tens thousands of men. If prostatitis occurred to an increased frequency, it would have been reported by the participants. Especially since the pharmaceutical effect of finasteride acts primarily on the prostate, I believe researchers would be particularly concerned about any detrimental effects that may occur as a result of this atrophy. Lack of evidence does not necessarily rule it out, but based on the number of studies and patients involved, it certainly indicates there is no relationship.

The full systemic effect of DHT has up until quite recently been quite poorly understood. However, newer studies are shedding some light on its true lack of function, and are finding more and more that it is of little value when men reach adulthood. Certainly, it's criticality during developmental stages cannot be understated, but studies are showing that it serves little function to an adult male. It probably has an effect on libido and erectile function to some degree, but not nearly as much as Testosterone does.

Are you able to post a link to the source that shows DHT is essential to the health of one's prostate? I don't recall reading this before, so I would appreciate if you could kindly provide a source.


Back on topic, you didn't answer any of my questions. What were your symptoms, and how exactly did your urologist diagnose the condition? What tests were used and what samples were analyzed? Also, of what type and what class is your prostatitis? I assume (and hope) he didn’t simply listen to your symptoms then diagnose you with prostatitis on the spot.

 

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First of all thanks for the reply, I appreciate you taking the time.

I read the report about DHT's function on the prostate on T-nation, i'll take a look an see if I can find it.

If you wouldn't mind posting the studies indicating DHT's lack of function, I would appreciate it..

My symptoms:

Initially I had testicular ache which lasted two weeks before i saw a urologist who told me everything was fine after doing an ultra sound and feeling my testicles. He also did a urine test which showed a small percentage of blood in my urine

Then after double dosing on propecia one night, I woke in the middle of the night and it felt like I had a headache in my prostate, a tingle feeling. In addition I had some serious back pain in the area where my kidneys are located.

My urine flow was also somewhat hesitant even though I felt like I needed to pass urine and after passing urine there was always spillage.

When I went to the prof of urology I had been on 2-3 weeks of anti-biotics (3 relapses in this period) and the problem had subsided somewhat.

He did a urine flow test through a machine that you piss into, from that he told me that my prostate wasn't infected, then he checked my prostate (unpleasant experience) asking me when pressing on the prostate whether it hurt or not.

From this he diagnosed me with chronic prostatitis, subscribed me an alpha blocker, told me I had it for the rest of my life and ushered me out his office (prick)

I believe the fact that I was messing around with propecia dosages caused my prostate to flare up even if the urologist didn't pay much attention to it.. Which I find disturbing since propecia has such a huge role in dealing with the prostate.