m3sturbation, Thirst, and insomnia

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I saw someone ask on another topic if the guy suffering from hair loss had a problem with...

excessive m3sturbation, thirst or insomnia...

Well i suffer from all 3!

I put the 1st down to high sex drive and lack of sex lol!
Thirst has always been a problem i've had since i was young but probably worse now and i always have a drink of water with me as always dying of thirst!

Insomnia... well i cannot sleep and go through spells where i am ok but even if i sleep i wake up loads of times during the nite.. maybe up to 6 or 7 times.

I'm concerned that maybe these are linked to my hair thinning for the last couple of years round the front and crown area...

Am currently taking dutasteride 0.5mg and nizoral 2% to try and combat this. However i'm now worried after seeing the above questions asked if i'm not suffering from male pattern baldness and something else... this is making me a bit nervous so if anyone could offer any advice i'd be really gratefull!

Thanks!
 

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It's a hard fact that M-3-sturbation is associated with hairloss. Maybe if you M-2-sturbated a little more to counter the 3 then you might get results.

Or you can turn AOL off, grow up, learn to spell words without embarrassment (such as Masturbation), and not use crappy pop-culture acronyms in your posts then people would probably be more apt to help you.

I'll bite though. There is no clinical proof, nor any reason to believe that touching of the penis is in any way linked to losing your hair. Male Pattern Baldness is genetic. If you're genetically predisposed to lose your hair, no amount of sexual deprivation will save what you got. In essence I'm telling you to whip it out and beat the b**ch like it owes you. You're gonna lose your hair anyways.

Thirst, however, can be a symptom of low sodium levels in the blood stream. In the Army, we drink LOTS of water, and eat food with high salt contents. Table salt is one of the main sources of Iodine, which is the nutrient that causes the Thyroid to operate properly. In it's extreme, low Iodine intake can cause LOTS of problems, including hair thinning and low energy levels. And I know personally that low energy can cause sleeping to be a chore as well. (With emphasis) DO NOT ASSUME THIS IS THE PROBLEM, but if you want to rule this possibility out, go to a local clinic and get blood work done. Ask them to include a TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone). A high TSH reading could very well indicate an underactive Thyroid (Hypothyrodism), and the converse indicates, well, the converse (Hyperthyroidism). Both can really rain on your parade. Get it checked out. Take it from me... Water without electrolytes is like drinking air. It does you little good.

Insomnia... I don't think this would cause any problems with your hair, but it can cause other problems. Try to find the cause of your insomnia, could be diet, atmosphere, emotional, or physical.

My recommendation to you is to go see a physician and get yourself evaluated. It couldn't hurt.

And never buy in to what scared people post on this site about possible theories of why they are losing their hair. 99.999999% of hairloss is genetic in nature, and no amount of dodging the cause will save you.

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

And if you want proof of my thyroidism claims, just do a google... it's all out there. I don't feel like citing my sources.
 

ajax

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Hey!

Thanks for the advice! I only didnt spell masturbation correctly as the person in the other post didnt and i wasnt sure if it would get censored, so theres yer explanation for that!

Can't help using crappy pop-culture acronyms, i'm 25 and thats part of my culture... not everyones cup of tea i guess but were all different at the end of the day... dont even realise i'm doing it but i'll try to control it in future posts!

I drink lots and lots of tap water... as i dont know much about water, is this rich or void of electrolytes?

I think i'm probs a genetic hair loss sufferer, but i guess we all cling to the hope theres a reason and easy cure for what ever is causing it... i'm not hopefull its anything else, but i appreciate the advice and i'll check out the thyroid info on the web.

Much appreciated mate!
 

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I'm only 23, so you can't use being young as an excuse yo ;). Anyways... Tap water is devoid of anything except chlorine, flourine, and random other minerals they throw in the water to make it taste less like the copper pipe it runs through. So yeah, electrolytes don't really come from water. Gatorade and powerade are chock full of them though. Sodium, Potassium, and other such elements are what you need.

Yeah, no problem for the advice, I'm usually not that nice when posts such as your first one come around. So count yourself lucky ;)

And on that note, good luck in the future.
 

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Gatorade is a very poor drink choice, it is full of HFCS that will almost certainly cause an insulin spike, you don't have to poor sh*t down your neck to get your electrolytes.
 
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It's possible you could have a thyroid problem or diabetes. Go to your doctor and get your blood tested and stuff.

Do some searching on this site or on the net about symptoms of both.

The wanking should not be a problem but if you want to extra cautious, do it under a dirty blanket and your hair will be fine.
 

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I've never heard of it. Therefore it's fake. Drink more gatorade you balding b****s :)

Where's your clinical proof tynan? ;)
 

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HFCS = High Fructose Corn Syrup

Gatorade = Sugar + Chemicals + Water
 
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Gatorade Raspberry Lemonade

Ingredients: water, sucrose syrup, glucose-fructose syrup, citric acid, natural and artificial flavors, salt, sodium citrate, monopotassium phosphate, ester gum, sucrose acetate isobutyrate, red 40, blue 1

Nutrition Facts: serving size: 8 fl oz; calories 50; total fat 0g; sodium 110mg; potassium 30mg; total carbs 14g; sugars 14g

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Gatorade Lemonade

Ingredients: water, sucrose syrup, glucose-fructose syrup, citric acid, natural and artificial flavors, salt, sodium citrate, monopotassium phosphate, ester gum, sucrose acetate isobutyrate, yellow 5

Nutrition Facts: serving size: 8 fl oz; calories 50; total fat 0g; sodium 110mg; potassium 30mg; total carbs 14g; sugars 14g
 

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And doesn't Insulin spikes only occur in those of us who are SUSCEPTIBLE to damage from said sugar increase?

I'm fairly sure your average soda has 40 times more fructose or sucrose or latose, or whatevercrose you want to argue with me about, than any bottle of gatorade.

People b**ch about the worst things these days.

A link to the label of a typical 8oz serving of Gatorade.

Compared to-

An 8oz can of Pepsi.

Sure that's not a very GOOD comparison... But even still. Most people drink more soft drinks than any other form of liquid... and I've yet to hear of an "insulin spike" of sufficient magnitude to cause alarm.

Give me gatorade any day.
 

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Looks like I got beat to the comparison.. but I still made my point.
 

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I just love Gatorade for the garish colours. I am a sucker for any consumable that comes in electric blue. f*** the insulin spike. Worrying about sugar content in foods is some pussy-*** bullshit.
 

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iamnaked said:
I just love Gatorade for the garish colours. I am a sucker for any consumable that comes in electric blue. f*** the insulin spike. Worrying about sugar content in foods is some pussy-*** bullshit.

Not really dude... I use to eat sweets and sugars like there was no tommorow. In the last few years I have been noticing some things. The doctor told me all the sugar has taken a toll on my body and as of right now I'm at risk of developing Diabetes. So yes, sugar intake is something to worry about.
 

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md2002 said:
iamnaked said:
I just love Gatorade for the garish colours. I am a sucker for any consumable that comes in electric blue. f*** the insulin spike. Worrying about sugar content in foods is some pussy-*** bullshit.

Not really dude... I use to eat sweets and sugars like there was no tommorow. In the last few years I have been noticing some things. The doctor told me all the sugar has taken a toll on my body and as of right now I'm at risk of developing Diabetes. So yes, sugar intake is something to worry about.

Hmm okay, point taken. I wasn't advocating guzzling all sugary foods, I just think common sense is the only thing one really needs in a diet. Everyone has an inkling about how to eat healthily; as long as you're not overdoing it on the old sugar front (and deep down one ought to know) then a bit of blue whatever-you-fancy isn't going to do you much harm.
 

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iamnaked said:
f*** the insulin spike. Worrying about sugar content in foods is some pussy-*** bullshit.


edit: I am Naked-Hmm okay, point taken. I wasn't advocating guzzling all sugary foods, I just think common sense is the only thing one really needs in a diet.[/quote]

You are a perfect examp of many Many americans lacking the common sense you speak of when relating to their diet, and have the same attitude of... f*** the insulin spike. Worrying about sugar content in foods is some pussy-*** bullshit.That comment is the farthest thing from common sense. That is why America is digustingly fat and becoming the land of diabeties.
 

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norain said:
iamnaked said:
f*** the insulin spike. Worrying about sugar content in foods is some pussy-*** bullshit.


edit: I am Naked-Hmm okay, point taken. I wasn't advocating guzzling all sugary foods, I just think common sense is the only thing one really needs in a diet.

You are a perfect examp of many Many americans lacking the common sense you speak of when relating to their diet, and have the same attitude of... f*** the insulin spike. Worrying about sugar content in foods is some pussy-*** bullshit.That comment is the farthest thing from common sense. That is why America is digustingly fat and becoming the land of diabeties.[/quote]

I agree about America being so fat and disgusting!! It's rather embarrassing really. I had no idea about sugar and sweets and now I am in a bad position.
 

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Stingray said:
And doesn't Insulin spikes only occur in those of us who are SUSCEPTIBLE to damage from said sugar increase?


Every healthy person has a insulin reaction from a sudden rise in blood sugar, it is the insulin that carries the sugar out of your blood to your cells or to be stored as glycogen. You don't have to be susceptible in any way, infact if you did not have an insulin spike in reaction to a sudden high sugar load (especially with simple sugars like High Fructose Corn Syrup) you would be, to use a medical term, fucked.

Stingray said:
I'm fairly sure your average soda has 40 times more fructose or sucrose or latose, or whatevercrose you want to argue with me about, than any bottle of gatorade.

This is very true, but this is like saying smoking 12 cigarettes a day is better than smoking 40 cigarettes a day.

Stingray said:
Sure that's not a very GOOD comparison... But even still. Most people drink more soft drinks than any other form of liquid...

Maybe in the USA!! but certainly not in the outside world.

Stingray said:
and I've yet to hear of an "insulin spike" of sufficient magnitude to cause alarm.

Give me gatorade any day.

An insulin spike is unlikely to cause alarm as such, but after weeks and weeks and months and years and decades of filtering this sugar solution through your body the reults will be all too obvious adiposity, adult onset diabetes, renal failure etc.

It is precisely this kind of attitude that is seeing many western countries and especially the US in the midst of a diabeties and obesity crisis.
 

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Breathing can be equally hazardous to your health over the course of decades yo... EVERYONE knows that not moderating oneself with ANY form of ANYTHING can be a crux for your future. I'm sorry Tynan, but your argument is too open ended to be valid in this conversation. While it's not FALSE, it's just asinine to blame humanity's tendency to be stupid on products that MAY OR MAY NOT be hazardous within the next quarter century.

And I was unaware that there was places OUTSIDE of the United States... So again, booyah.

But all fun and games aside... I do agree with you. However, moderation is the key. Smoking 12 cigarettes a day isn't "healthier" than smoking 40 a day, but comparing toxins to carbohydrates is like comparing apples to the swiss alpes. You are probably not going to f*** yourself up if you drink gatorade in moderation daily over the course of many years. Your body can process high sugar concentrates.

And obesity can't be blamed on foods. It can only be blamed on the human tendency to be gluttonous. Whether it's intentional or not, it's still caused by improper diet and exercise. A normal healthy human won't plump up like a ballpark frank in boiling water when they follow a healthy daily diet and exercise regimen. It's just hard truth.

Gatorade isn't at fault, it's humans. Ban humans from stores and we'll solve the obesity problem.
 

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Stingray said:
Breathing can be equally hazardous to your health over the course of decades yo...

This is very true, oxidization and free radical damage certainly does it work to help you into the grave, but we must draw a line somewhere and consider somethings 'par for the course' or 'natural' and somethings unatural and avoidable, let's be honest here breathing is a difficult one to avoid.

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EVERYONE knows that not moderating oneself with ANY form of ANYTHING can be a crux for your future. I'm sorry Tynan, but your argument is too open ended to be valid in this conversation.

My argumet is closed.

Drinks rich in simple sugars, consumed for years cause severe physical problems, amongst them failure of major organs, adiposity, diabetes (specifically type 2 or 'adult onset') and so on.

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While it's not FALSE, it's just asinine to blame humanity's tendency to be stupid on products that MAY OR MAY NOT be hazardous within the next quarter century.

??

Sorry you have lost me here, I am not sure as to the point you are making.

What does "...to be stupid on products.." mean ??

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And I was unaware that there was places OUTSIDE of the United States... So again, booyah.

No really, my point may have been a little bit 'pointed' I apologise for that, but it reamins true that the vast majority of the world (outside of the USA) does not consume soft drinks 'more than any other liquid'. Really !!

Stingray said:
But all fun and games aside... I do agree with you. However, moderation is the key.

I agree with your sentiment, certainly, but in all reality I believe moderation is very hard to stick to, I would advocate education above moderation.

Stingray said:
Smoking 12 cigarettes a day isn't "healthier" than smoking 40 a day

...er...it is.

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but comparing toxins to carbohydrates is like comparing apples to the swiss alpes.

Toxins cause chemical reactions to take place in that cell, these changes can cause problems in the body.

Carbohydrates cause chemical reactions to take place in that cell, these changes can cause problems in the body.

Stingray said:
You are probably not going to f*** yourself up if you drink gatorade in moderation daily over the course of many years.

This is very true, but coupled with the other sh*t we ingest, everything starts to become an issue in the long term, and when I say long term, sometimes this can be just a few years.

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Your body can process high sugar concentrates.

In the short term, yes you are right, and especially if you are young or very active.

Stingray said:
And obesity can't be blamed on foods. It can only be blamed on the human tendency to be gluttonous.

Gluttonous means to excessively eat food. (???)

Obesity is a reult of eating the wrong kinds of food for your body type and being sedentary.

Stingray said:
Whether it's intentional or not, it's still caused by improper diet and exercise. A normal healthy human won't plump up like a ballpark frank in boiling water when they follow a healthy daily diet and exercise regimen. It's just hard truth.

LOL !!! I have not got a clue what a "ballpark frank in boiling water" is (remember what I said about the outside world) :)

Yes again you are correct, but returning to the original point, I would not consider decades filtering sugar solution through your kidneys and liver to be an essential part of a healthy diet.

Stingray said:
Gatorade isn't at fault, it's humans. Ban humans from stores and we'll solve the obesity problem.

It is hard to apportion blame by your standards, maybe we should give gatorade the benefit of the doubt, all they are trying to do it sell product and make money regardless of long term health issues, they are hardly the first with this bussiness model. But this is missing the fundemental point, Gatorade is bad for you.
 
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