Masturbation Frequency

[Hoppi]

6 people out of 9 though noticed improvement. SIX. I read through the whole thread on the other forum, the thing about prolactins and inflammation seems fairly sound. Nutrients, yes that too but many people often notice immediate sensations in their scalp like discomfort, redness, inflammation etc.

It's proper bad news! heh

Possibly even as bad as beer!

 

[mpbsux20]

I guess there is rapid circulation of blood after sex/masturbation and serum DHT finds its way to the scalp,accumulating near the follicles and when this keeps occurring regularly,the follicles sensitive to DHT slowly begin to deteriorate and therefore fastening the process of hair loss

 

[Hoppi]

Well, possibly that too (although usually increased circulation is good), but why aren't you considering prolactin, DHT spikes and neurogenic inflammation?

 

[mpbsux20]

Of course DHT spikes and inflammations are the big two culprits in case making the hair loss process a lot quicker.I kinda have mixed thoughts about Prolactin's role in AA....On one hand it regulates/decreases sex hormones and stress levels.While on the other it is capable of messing up your hormonal levels.In the end I feel it might not have as big a role as the other two in AA.

 

[slipy]

I beat it off 3 times today and all of sudden the itching got 3 times more severe.
, i haven't actually monitored shedding levels but i've noticed one thing - the itch is never this severe if i abstain, although it never goes away completely.

 

[Hoppi]

I hear ya Slipy! =D (that was a Starfox reference lol)

If you want to reduce inflammation even further, then I would recommend cur and res (combats neurogenic inflammation, etc), and maybe vitamin D (antimicrobial and T level increase, watch out for that), brewer's yeast (sebum reduction).. hell they all help

 

[Hoppi]

my shedding is still very tame today lol


damn my youthful horniness rofl xD

 

[Brains Expel Hair]

Yet, you experience the highest levels of prolactin during REM sleep, not orgasm. So only cutting out masturbation would be pointless as if prolactin had a major effect on it then you'd still be experiencing most of your hair loss during the night time anyways.

One thing a lot of people miss when they start making claims of "oh, but my scalp started itching after I orgasmed!", is that sexual stimulation has a numbing effect on pain sensors. Hence why a good ole slap is well taken during sex, but not so much while walking down the sidewalk, or how you can end up with major lacerations on your back without noticing just how sharp her nails really were during.

This pain relief is the result of elevated levels of dopamine and endorphins during sex. Upon sexual release your prolactin levels go up and one action of prolactin is to prevent the action of dopamine. ie: this is why your scalp itches "more". The inflammation itself hasn't actually increased, you just notice it all of a sudden because you are now counteracting some of the mental numbing effect that was occurring.

Of course if you still worry, you can simply just go multi-orgasmic as this doesn't cause a release of prolactin.

 

[Hoppi]

Well possibly but I have certainly noticed a reduction in shedding. I could achieve regrowth before but I couldn't arrest my shedding. The only other thing I've done recently is about a day or 2 ago I took a couple of beta-sitosterol capsules and a couple of coenzyme A capsules, so it could have been those too, but I have taken them before and I'm not sure if it decreased quite this rapidly.

Also 2 people said it stopped their hair loss and an additional 3 or 4 say their hair loss improved since abstaining, out of 9 that have talked about it. I dunno man that's enough to convince me, personally. Additionally Brian says it damages hair and he's pretty smart as well, maybe you should have a chat to him.

Sorry I know this is frowned upon but it seems very relevant, I recommend having a read of this thread because there are some very important things that basically PROVE this theory. Mods, if you don't like that link then yeah remove it it's just.. this might be important because many young guys have sex or masturbate often, and many young guys are losing hair lol


EDIT -- By the way Brains your signature is legendary So nice to hear people actually speaking the truth about how things like that trigger male pattern baldness!

 

[Brains Expel Hair]

I just added it today after reading yet another "food doesn't have any effect on the body" post. Overall odds if you are a native english speaker you have a 10-15% chance of having the same dietary response that I do (although slightly lower occurrence in black ancestry) and I'd assume the rate would be even higher around these parts due to the comorbidity.

Back on subject though, supposedly being multi-orgasmic increases your life span but I believe that claim specifically is a severe stretch of the results from worm studies. As far as prolactin and multi-orgasmic males goes however:

http://www.nature.com/ijir/journal/v14/n2/full/3900823a.html

Not saying that's an easy task however, just gotta work at it for a couple of years.

 

[Hoppi]

lol yes, but I would thoroughly recommend reading about some of the astounding results people have been getting in that thread! hehe


EDIT -- Oh yes and again I'm fully with you on the dietary thing! People NEED to start acknowledging this stuff more, the big 3 isn't a cure-all. At best, it's a treat all, at worst, it's nothing more than a band-aid

 

[Jacob]

Why does Hoppi keep getting away with posting things we all can't? :dunno:

Or should the question be..why can't Hoppi control himself? Is his agenda what I've predicted? :whistle:

 

[Hoppi]

I have an agenda?

And I dunno I mean, I know it's technically not something that we're supposed to do but the only reason I linked to it was because it had a lot of relevant information, just like an article or something might do

Saves me copying and pasting it all lol

I find discovering all these triggers such as alcohol, gluten, sexual activity, stress etc very interesting, particularly as they do seem to have the power to reverse hair loss.

Unless a lot of people are lying, then this is huge, I mean the theory of an irreversible activation of the "male pattern baldness gene" is surely just dead in the water.

 

[OverMachoGrande]

Sorry Hoppi, I removed the link. Promotting or "linking" to another hair loss forum is against the User Agreement for gourmetstylewellness.com.

 

[Thickandthin]

6 people out of 9 though noticed improvement. SIX. I read through the whole thread on the other forum, the thing about prolactins and inflammation seems fairly sound. Nutrients, yes that too but many people often notice immediate sensations in their scalp like discomfort, redness, inflammation etc.

It's proper bad news! heh

Possibly even as bad as beer!

Well that about proves it, doesn't it? I see the scientific method is really paying off for you, Hoppi.

For someone who claims to have studied so much about hair loss, maybe you should study a little more. There's nothing outside of an immediate allergic reaction or Nair that will cause hair to shed within a matter of hours or even days. The hair that is shed has to go through a several month long cycle. Likewise, the hair that grows back has to go through this cycle as well. It's basic knowledge to anyone in the hair loss community. It's why drugs like finasteride and minoxidil require a certain amount of time to work.

Do you honestly believe that ejaculation causes terminal hairs to spontaneously fall off a person's head? Or bad diet, for that matter?

 

[dougfunny]

Why does Hoppi keep getting away with posting things we all can't? :dunno:

He posts so much that it is easier just to ignore him and let him think people are listening

:agree:

hehe

 

[Hoppi]

Well that about proves it, doesn't it? I see the scientific method is really paying off for you, Hoppi.

For someone who claims to have studied so much about hair loss, maybe you should study a little more. There's nothing outside of an immediate allergic reaction or Nair that will cause hair to shed within a matter of hours or even days. The hair that is shed has to go through a several month long cycle. Likewise, the hair that grows back has to go through this cycle as well. It's basic knowledge to anyone in the hair loss community. It's why drugs like finasteride and minoxidil require a certain amount of time to work.

Do you honestly believe that ejaculation causes terminal hairs to spontaneously fall off a person's head? Or bad diet, for that matter?

lol well very few people are claiming immediate results, but many people are claiming results and sometimes hair loss reversal!

Whatever, ok, they're all lying, every one of them... happy?


Beer, masturbation, smoking, stress, bad food... all these things are GREAT for hair so do them MORE! :woot:


EDIT -- Ok that was maybe a bit harsh/knee-jerk, but do you see my point? I mean I know this is slightly sloppy pseudo-science but when I hear not only a collection of intelligent individuals backing something up with reasonable sounding science, and handfuls of members (the considerable majority) not only claiming short term positive effects but longer term results, I get pretty convinced, personally. Like that dude who said that beer made him shed much more. It makes sense. But yeah I mean, it's up to you what you take on board and what you don't, and for many people it won't be relevant anyway, not unless they drink heavily or smoke heavily or have a LOT of sex or something lol

 

[mpbsux20]

I agree with HOPPI on this one....If you are genetically susceptible to baldness,you would be doing yourself more harm than good by indulging in excess masturbation/sex,smoking,drinking,consuming junk,etc.It would take time for these effects to be felt and when they are done on a long term basis,you will notice rapid changes to your hair,skin and overall health[the last two applies for everybody] that would not have happened if you had been a little cautious.
Guess we are not that genetically gifted,so we have to take extra care of ourselves from a young age to look and feel good.

 

[Hoppi]

I don't really worry about my genetic susceptibility though, I mean let's face it it seems that most guys are susceptible to hair loss to some extent or another

C'est la vie!

 

[dpdr]

Look for this article

http://www.hairloss-research.org/Update ... s6-07.html

Today I ha 2 months without masturbating, and my hair is MUCH better than when I masturbate, less oily, less dandruff and with more brightness