Memoirs Of A Landwhale. Blah Blah Blah

[hairblues]

I didn't mean she chose to be fat, I mean that there are fat people out there who are somehow inexplicably comfortable with their weight and that's fine if they want to be that way, but once they start jumping up to lecture people like this woman does, it's just like shut the f*** up.

I get what you're saying about the looks hierarchy part, and I've made similar points like "we hate balding because it looks sh*t, and we hate others for thinking it looks sh*t" so I'm with you there, but this woman is definitely not correct. She's full of sh*t, as Bateman pointed out he also would hold the door for some random Asian dude, now assuming he doesn't want to bang the Asian dude, you just naturally hold the door open for anyone.

This woman took her BDD to a delusional level, I also hold a door for absolutely anyone, I don't do it exclusively for people I want to f***, she's insane.

the thing that is irritating about her and the article is because she is implying a man opened a door for her because he now 'sees' her...and I can bet money its not true its just her perception..that she is 'noticing someone' holding the door open...i seriously doubt people were never holding doors for her...she probably was so unhappy just did not notice it...NOW she lost weight and she assumes a man holding door for her is becasue==what? shes attractive...and you are MAD at the guy? or it triggers anger? SO i can understand men being defensive about it reading it because shes not saying 'people' shes saying 'men' although i am going by the title i skimmed the article

My experience with my extra 30 pounds was men were still nice...women i knew were a little fucked up towards me..or it at least felt that way..i cant say for sure. I felt judged by women...it was a feeling not something i have proof of. so it may have been me projecting i cant say for sure. But i had no issue with men.

 

[blackg]

I don't get the relevancy of this but yes, me included! But I wouldn't impose my delusional thoughts on others, cursing someone out for holding a door open is not something the 90% of us would do. Don't enable people to think that's fine.

Well, we are all allowed to have a bad day here and there. We have all snapped at other members of the public at some point in our lives because we viewed their actions as being non genuine and suspicious.
She snapped because she now views the world through her biased filter.
As we all obviously do.
Her worldview is obviously tainted by her past experiences for being shunned and ignored, and even shammed by the simpletons, for looking the way she did.

I can't blame her for now being angry at the positive treatment she now receives from strangers.
It's the reverse of what I read constantly on these forums!
Or, it's the exact same as some of the experiences on these forums.
That is: an otherwise good looking baldite will don a ballcap for the day and he is quickly made aware of the positive treatment he is getting all because of that ballcap.
The cap obviously provides an instant frame to his nice facial features. So he is treated nicer!

I have no problem with someone exposing this aspect of human nature. More power to her!!

She will, unfortunately, always be in the minority so I wouldn't get too upset with her.
The majority always get their way so very little will change, unfortunately.

 

[blackg]

stop fat shaming shaming me

Great comeback!! Ya skinny f***!

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I saw enough of you too know with your hair you are exaggerating that people are shunning you without a baseball cap when you open doors for the...Hot girls? yeah i will give you that but 'people' in general? i think you are a little much with this.
Im not going to comment on your looks because i did not see enough of your face tot make a judgement or assumption. Although your jawline looked fine as did your forehead. Nose eyes and mouth i did not see.

I think it's likely that Dante is dramatizing and exaggerating, but I have no doubt that he experiences significant looks-based discrimination, and that it makes his life more difficult to live. There could be confounding factors that we don't know about, for example he may live among a cluster of good looking people, have relatives who care a lot about fashion, his body language may be an issue, etc.

I have not seen your photos, but based on the life you've lived I assume that you're hot, an 8 or 8.5. It is impossible for you to understand how difficult it can be for the rest of us. It's by no means an empathy failure on your part, you just can't ever get it without living it.

 

[Rudiger]

Well, we are all allowed to have a bad day here and there. We have all snapped at other members of the public at some point in our lives because we viewed their actions as being non genuine and suspicious.
She snapped because she now views the world through her biased filter.
As we all obviously do.
Her worldview is obviously tainted by her past experiences for being shunned and ignored, and even shammed by the simpletons, for looking the way she did.

I can't blame her for now being angry at the positive treatment she now receives from strangers.
It's the reverse of what I read constantly on these forums!
Or, it's the exact same as some of the experiences on these forums.
That is: an otherwise good looking baldite will don a ballcap for the day and he is quickly made aware of the positive treatment he is getting all because of that ballcap.
The cap obviously provides an instant frame to his nice facial features. So he is treated nicer!

I have no problem with someone exposing this aspect of human nature. More power to her!!

She will, unfortunately, always be in the minority so I wouldn't get too upset with her.
The majority always get their way so very little will change, unfortunately.

OK she snapped regrettably as anyone could potentially do, and then made an article justifying that what she did was fine.

I do actually agree with a lot of your sentiment and how it should apply in an ideal world, I just think you're using her as being the prime example, being an awful example. But I'll just respectfully disagree with someone I respect here.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Legendary thread on bodybuilding.com, contains 8,000 posts over 10 years.

Were you treated differently after losing alot of weight
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=898532

I read through a lot of it a while back, my summary:
- A lot of women noticed a difference;
- Many men noticed a difference, but it's much more common among tall men. Short men tended to say they were treated the same after losing weight;
- Some said they were treated differently after losing weight, then gaining muscle, then losing weight again;
- Many said the hardest part was losing the "fat man mentality";

 

[hairblues]

I think it's likely that Dante is dramatizing and exaggerating, but I have no doubt that he experiences significant looks-based discrimination, and that it makes his life more difficult to live. There could be confounding factors that we don't know about, for example he may live among a cluster of good looking people, have relatives who care a lot about fashion, his body language may be an issue, etc.

I have not seen your photos, but based on the life you've lived I assume that you're hot, an 8 or 8.5. It is impossible for you to understand how difficult it can be for the rest of us. It's by no means an empathy failure on your part, you just can't ever get it without living it.

Maybe you should go back and read the post i am commenting on before you comment.

He and I are talking specifically about his hair not his looks.

HE said that people shun him when he does not have his head covered...NOT his face his head he was comparing when he opens a door with his hat vs without his hat for people..and that without his hat when they see his hair they shun him....

I saw his head. what he is saying is ridiculous...and i stand by it.

 

[Roberto_72]

I wonder what people refer to when they write that "society" treats them badly/well because of the way they look.

I understand there are trends and fashions which influence everyone. However, in the end, we always deal with individuals who have tastes and inclinations that are mostly innate. It has been shown that old year old kids can already recognize and appreciate good facial features and prefer them to non-symmetrical ones, for instance.

We live in a chaotic world in which no one gives a damn if you deserve to look better. They will individually treat you ill. And lashing out won't help.

 

[blackg]

I wonder what people refer to when they write that "society" treats them badly/well because of the way they look.
I understand there are trends and fashions which influence everyone. However, in the end, we always deal with individuals who have tastes and inclinations that are mostly innate. It has been shown that old year old kids can already recognize and appreciate good facial features and prefer them to non-symmetrical ones, for instance.

You seem to have slightly contradicted yourself.

 

[blackg]

Stupid, fat, lazy whale. Maybe submarine sonar confused her when she was young, and she thought she had big bones.

It's comments like these that really raise the standard of gourmetstylewellness.com.

 

[Exodus2011]

I might start telling everyone its okay to be fat and bald so that while I improve myself they decline and I will thus be on a far higher social ranking as them

i honestly think this is why girls encourage fatness and controllable ugliness (mainly short hair, piercings, tattoos, feminist stuff)

 

[blackg]

i honestly think this is why girls encourage fatness and controllable ugliness (mainly short hair, piercings, tattoos, feminist stuff)

Short hair really looks hot on the right girl.
Really shows off the cheek bones.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Although being fat is genetic, you can still manage to stay in shape with some self discipline. I have a thyroid issue and yet still manage to stay in shape. Thyroid issues are usually the excuse that most use. I could easily be fat due to laziness and lack of self discipline. I am also a food addict to an extent but I know how to control it enough to not over indulge on a regular basis. I can understand eating like this on occasion but not as a life style.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Im with blackG here. Athough it does seem rash, it makes sense considering her backstory.

And I'll tell you why I relate to this woman's reaction. Because I know what it means to be shunned and mistreated by society for so much as a cosmetic flaw. If somehow by the grace of god I get my hair back, I would feel resentful too at all the positive attention I would get. like I'm all the sudden a human being again. Well, if they never saw me as a human before then f*** them, because yes, " you wouldn't have treated me that way before..."

And just to be clear, I'm not talking about pulling, hooking up and f*****g... I'm talking about mearly treating others with dignity and respect, something I have been denied since going bald.

 

[Exodus2011]

Yea but ucman this is something largely up to her

Although I too sympathize with the reaction itself

 

[hairblues]

That's why I can't accept her comments. A good-looking, overprivileged woman thinks she can tell me what my life and experiences with people might be like? f***. Off.

i saw your hair.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

This is the only forum in the world where being called good looking is an insult.

 

[hairblues]

This is the only forum in the world where being called good looking is an insult.

The funny part is he never even saw me nor did David. Only Pas Buckthorn and Shook have seen me.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

The funny part is he never even saw me nor did David. Only Pas Buckthorn and Shook have seen me.

It doesn't matter to me if you are attractive or not. In fact, I think its really helpful to have good looking people and ugly people on the same forum as we can all learn something from another.

I remember spending time with my good looking mate - in one day he was approached by two different women - and before that day I never thought women ever approached. Sometimes we learn a lot from people we don't normally spend time with.

 

[Dante92]

i saw your hair.

And that was more than enough, wasn't it?

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