Mixing your own ketoconazole solutions?

Hoppi

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What do you reckon? Can this be done? I mean people have talked about doing it with finasteride tablets, would it be the same principle?

I really want to find a ketoconazole liquid.. possibly foam, or at the very least a 2% ket shampoo that has no other chemicals including SLS. But like.. any ideas anyone?

Cheers guys,

Hoppi! ^_^
 

Private Ryan

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Hoppi said:
What do you reckon? Can this be done? I mean people have talked about doing it with finasteride tablets, would it be the same principle?

I really want to find a ketoconazole liquid.. possibly foam, or at the very least a 2% ket shampoo that has no other chemicals including SLS. But like.. any ideas anyone?

Cheers guys,

Hoppi! ^_^

you can get ketoconazole 200mg pills and dissolve it.

from my search, common solvent like PPG/glycerin is use as the base for nizoral cream and foam so it might work. also, there is a study on ketconazole 2% hair grow properties on mice that use 95% alcohol as it vehical. all these should be able to dissolve ketoconazole.

hope it help.
 

Hoppi

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Thanks guys, I'll definitely read that link through soon azyx, it would be great even to manage to get some keto into my normal SLS-free shampoo, maybe with some other goodies for stopping hair loss, it would probably be much better for my scalp, it goes SO dry after using nizoral ._.
 

Hoppi

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Hmm, it seems like the answer is either glycerin or PPG! Glycerin seems to be a popular choice in many shampoos, and also does seem to be milder/safer, although I can't see either in the Nizoral ingredients, I wonder why.

I also wonder if the amount of glycerin in this SLS-free shampoo is enough to dissolve the crushed keto pills, or if I'll need to do it separately then add it. I'll keep learning!

But yeah erm, this sounds like a great plan. I was thinking to myself really that what I'm putting on my scalp is probably so important, and yet I'm using things that I really don't fully trust and many people are warning me against SLS. I hate how dry my scalp looks after nizoral, it actually GIVES me dandruff :(

If I use it often, I notice my scalp goes a little red too ._.

But yeah, I'll keep learning!

I also might chuck DMSO and lithium in there.

This seems like a great cheap and cheerful but effective shampoo topical, that doesn't induce an early shed like min or apple polyphenols might. It should end up anti-inflammatory, stimulatory, antiandrogen, and inhibit gsk-3beta and wnt and stuff as well! Wow!

If I threw a couple of other antiandrogens in there I reckon I would REALLY be in business!! :)
 

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As far as I have understood, the deal about SLS is that it leaves the scalp completely without any protection such as natural "grease", which is potentially bad for the hair.

If that is the case, then why don't people use nizoral first in the shower, and then use a SLS-free shampoo with conditioner? Wont that minimize the bad effects from nizoral?
 

Hoppi

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I believe it's just an irritant for some people, a fair number seem to have reported reduced shedding after cutting it.

It's just.. for the sake of buying shampoo A instead of shampoo B, I may as well cut it, you know?
 

JimmyL

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Hoppi said:
I believe it's just an irritant for some people, a fair number seem to have reported reduced shedding after cutting it.

It's just.. for the sake of buying shampoo A instead of shampoo B, I may as well cut it, you know?

I see, but personally I only use it one time a week, so I don't know how much damage it does. Furthermore I do what I wrote above; wash with nizoral first time and wash with a shampoo (including conditioner) right after. But if an alternative without SLS shows up, needless to say, I will use that.
 

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Lambaugh said:
As far as I have understood, the deal about SLS is that it leaves the scalp completely without any protection such as natural "grease", which is potentially bad for the hair.

You think sebum "protects" hair? :) Sorry, I don't believe that.
 

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Bryan said:
Lambaugh said:
As far as I have understood, the deal about SLS is that it leaves the scalp completely without any protection such as natural "grease", which is potentially bad for the hair.

You think sebum "protects" hair? :) Sorry, I don't believe that.

That's how I have understood it when reading about SLS. But I might be very wrong.
 

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Lambaugh said:
That's how I have understood it when reading about SLS. But I might be very wrong.

No offense to you personally, but I think there are a lot of myths about skin and hair that you see being propagated on various Web sites by otherwise well-meaning people. I think this idea that "natural oils" are important for hair, or protect it in some way, is probably one of them.
 

Hoppi

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I believe it leaves hair shiny, better nourished, less likely to break, looking healthier, I dunno, certainly seems to be good for it, DEFINITELY cosmetically but I would imagine health-wise as well.

Excess sebum however I believe is bad, and too much in follicles' sebaceous glands is also bad ._.
 
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